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IrishHitman |
40. RE: GOP candidate race....
Feb 17 2012, 7:04 PM EST
"Newt and Romney are McCain style Republicans. And we know how well that got out the republican vote.None of those people can be described as left-leaning unless you're a fascist of some description. Santorum hasn't got a left wing bone in his body, which is ironic for a man who claims to support the Catholic Church. Though, if you mean "left-leaning" as in "supports big government", then you'd be right. They support big government in defence, police, and interfering with women's reproductive systems. In other words, you're fine when you're in the womb, then you're screwed until you reach recruitment age, then you're just what they're looking for. Not that left wing politics actually advocates big government necessarily, but the vocabulary of American politics has been completely skewed that feck knows what any of you mean by left wing anymore. As for "Obama will reduce the military", he may be anti-war but he's still American, the military will still be the most capable in the world even with cuts. There's no way Obama will want to be known as the President who knocked the US off that particular No.1 spot. Do you find this valuable? |
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IrishHitman |
41. RE: GOP candidate race....
Feb 17 2012, 8:26 PM EST
"As I stated before, I think no matter what happens in November, nobody is going to be happy about it. I think we can all universally agree that everyone running is better than Al Gore though... =)"Ha, I doubt it. Two terms of Bush ruined the US economy, the reputation of the US abroad, and moved American politics so far to the right that to the rest of the West, you look like you're on an inevitable spiral towards theocracy.. Do you find this valuable? |
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11ACRBlackhorse |
42. RE: GOP candidate race....
Feb 21 2012, 8:42 AM EST
"None of those people can be described as left-leaning unless you're a fascist of some description. Santorum hasn't got a left wing bone in his body, which is ironic for a man who claims to support the Catholic Church.You have no clue what our system is and what a US replublican is or wants. Left leaning to a US conservative or Republican is a lot different than to a Irish or european conservative. Dont even bring up military defense when your country leans on GB forprotection. Which GB leans on US and or NATO (which is US) for protection. Ireland couldnt defend its self from a girl scout troop armed with rubber hoses. lol After our military is almost decemated with wrong headed cuts in all the wrong areas. It might still be the strongest for now. But with the planned cuts that will not last for very long. And if you think Pres Obamas dislike of the US military wont be a desiding factor, you my Irish liberal/socialist are wrong. Oh ya I guess Im a fascist because Im to the right of you. lol Pathetic try Do you find this valuable? |
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11ACRBlackhorse |
43. RE: GOP candidate race....
Feb 21 2012, 8:54 AM EST
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"Ha, I doubt it.That is a complete load of BS. Most europeans hated the US years before either Bush became President. As for our economy. You have to be joking. This from Ireland which is 20Xs worse and has already gotten bailed out once. Ya when you have a economy then talk to me about it. lol Theoracy lmao. You are so pathetic and this is a complete slander. Either you need to learn what a Theocray is or learn our goverment more. Because even if the Pope was elected president it would never make us a theocracy. Our courts and constitution will never let such a thinmg to happen. So either your purposefully twisting facts, or dont know what you are talking about, or a little "hate the US". I think its some of each. But that doesnt matter because you are so off base and slanderous Im suprised they didnt lock this thread after your BS. Edit bad language Do you find this valuable? |
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PedroAsani |
44. RE: GOP candidate race....
Feb 22 2012, 1:46 AM EST
"Oh ya I guess Im a fascist because Im to the right of you. lol Pathetic try"ACR, this is your only warning and the only warning I am giving for this thread as a whole. Keep it civil. I have no problems locking and banning if things get out of hand. Do you find this valuable? |
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PedroAsani |
45. RE: GOP candidate race....
Feb 22 2012, 3:04 AM EST
"<snip>""That is a complete load of BS. Most europeans hated the US years before either Bush became President." That would be because of Reagan. During the Clinton years the US was seen more favourably, and now with Obama you are viewed more favourably, particularly in Europe. When the US has Democratic Presidents, you are generally viewed better than when you have Republicans. However, there was a marked decline in US popularity during both Bush and Bush Jr terms. "Either you need to learn what a Theocray is or learn our goverment more. Because even if the Pope was elected president it would never make us a theocracy. Our courts and constitution will never let such a thinmg to happen." A Theocracy "is a form of government in which the official policy is to be governed by immediate divine guidance or by officials who are regarded as divinely guided, or simply pursuant to the doctrine of a particular religious sect or religion." The adherence to certain passages of the Bible would qualify this. See in particular the stances on Gay Marriage, Abortion, Prayer in School. As for the protection from the courts and Constitution, Amendments can rewrite, cancel or add entire sections. See such historical notables as The Female Vote (19th), The Black Vote (15th), Alcohol (18th, cancelled by 21st. Set the precedent of an Amendment being repealed in its entirety.) In addition, protection of even the most basic kind has often been denied by your Consitutional process. House Joint Resolution 184, anyone? Or the infamous 3/5 persons, as in the original Article 1? Or the Fugitive State Clause? So, to sum up: Theocracy can happen in the US. It does not require the Pope, and the Courts can be overridden, the Constitution amended. Do you find this valuable? |
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fixdeluxe1 |
46. RE: GOP candidate race....
Feb 22 2012, 3:50 AM EST
"You have no clue what our system is and what a US replublican is or wants. Left leaning to a US conservative or Republican is a lot different than to a Irish or european conservative.You are over-simplifying geo-political situations. I have much respect for the Irish republicans who fought the British,very innovative and tough fighters,as well as the Irish guiness drinking bare-knuckle boxers,many of whom reside in Boston. Do you find this valuable? |
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fixdeluxe1 |
47. RE: GOP candidate race....
Feb 22 2012, 3:51 AM EST
"That is a complete load of BS. Most europeans hated the US years before either Bush became President.Please don't turn this into a national "my country is better than your country" debate,they are usually very pathetic,misinformed and immature.It was simply about the topic that the title implied,no more. Do you find this valuable? |
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PedroAsani |
48. RE: GOP candidate race....
Feb 22 2012, 3:57 AM EST
Now, to wrestle this back On Topic.Reasons I wouldn't vote for any Republican candidate: Their stances on abortion, same-sex marriage, the insistence the Free-market is the answer to healthcare despite the highest per-capita cost for mid-table results. And I can only agree on other topics with one candidate. Ron Paul. Ron Paul. Ron Paul? What the hell?!? Why is he the one that seems to make the most sense when he is deranged on other topics? Iran: Because he isn't advocating another war in an unstable area, this time with a potential nuclear power. Economy: Because he is the only one who isn't simply suggesting cutting taxes. Less taxes means less spending, and typical Republican strategy is to cut taxes but not spending. This requires federal borrowing, and the deficit goes up. That's how you got into the mess you are in now. And whilst I don't agree with eliminating all the taxes he is proposing, I do admire that he is addressing the uncomfortable issue that less taxes and no extra borrowing means a cut in government services. That will reduce the comfort level in the country, and voters don't want to hear it even though it needs to be said. Abolishing the TSA: Get the airport gropers out. They don't add to security and cause delays, hassle and stress. Only two things have changed the threat of terrorism on planes (locking the cockpit door, passengers fighting back) and neither of those is from TSA purview. Taxes. I understand that taxes pay for things like roads, schools, etc. So I can't really argue for or against any particular taxes, except one. Inheritance tax. This is a tax on money that has already been taxed. Eliminating this makes sense from a fairness perspective. It isn't income, it isn't a capital gain. It is a bequest from someone who already paid their taxes on it. Do you find this valuable? |
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11ACRBlackhorse |
49. RE: GOP candidate race....
Feb 23 2012, 11:05 AM EST
Ron Paul is a ex-libertarian/independent that couldnt get any notice or fallowing worth even crediting as one. But now that he has relabled himself as a so-called conservative Republican. He is now getting notice and a fallowing.But it still dont change his isolationist US first and only ideas. 1) He wants to pull all military and Federal employees back to the US. And yes that includes embassy staffs and diplomats of any kind. 2) Cancell all goverment foreign aid. Be it money, food, medicine. 3) Leave the UN and all other world bodies and groups. And expell the UN from US soil. 4) Close our borders to imagration of all but a select PHD type group. 5) Place tariffs on all imported goods. 6) Close all programs and agencies that arent part of the defense of the US. the list can go on and on and on........ He wants to return the goverment and constitution of the founding. Oh ya he has said repeatedly that Pres. Abe Lincohn was our worst and evilest Pres ever. Not my words but his. But hey you can vote or campaign for Ron Paul as much as you want. But no matter how bad Pres Obama is he is still 100% better than Ron Paul. Have fun while I depart and puke my guts out for saying I would rather have Pres Obama than Congressman Paul. Do you find this valuable? |
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PedroAsani |
50. RE: GOP candidate race....
Feb 23 2012, 11:34 AM EST
"Ron Paul is a ex-libertarian/independent that couldnt get any notice or fallowing worth even crediting as one. But now that he has relabled himself as a so-called conservative Republican. He is now getting notice and a fallowing.Yep, Ron Paul is a big old can of crazy. And yet he is the only GOP candidate I could even consider. Santorum comes across as a lizardperson failing to fully convey human emotion. Romney is a demented car salesman. "The trees are the right height. I love lakes." Pandering at a third-grade level. Stick him in New Mexico and watch him rave about sand. Newt Gingrich cheated on two of his three wives, and runs a family values campaign. He wants to reward girls who graduate high school as virgins: how would you prove it? Ron Paul would be a bad choice. But still better than the other three. And yes, I would be voting for Obama given that choice. In a heartbeat. Do you find this valuable? |
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Filadog |
51. RE: GOP candidate race....
Feb 23 2012, 12:27 PM EST
"1) He wants to pull all military and Federal employees back to the US. And yes that includes embassy staffs and diplomats of any kind.All that sounds pretty good to me ! Lincoln of course had no trouble suspending the constituion when it suited him.In 1861 he suspended habieas corpus and ended up arresting 13,000 people under martial law with no charges or trials. Most of these arrests were for people expressing views that disagreed with his and not for violence against the country. I live on Md. eastern shore and Lincoln sent steam boats fill of soldiers over here to arrest editers of newspapers that disagreed with him as well as common people just exercising thier 1st amendment rights of free speech. Chief justice Taney of the US supreme court found this to be illegal but Lincoln and the military ignored him. After Lincoln was killed the supreame court determined having martial law in areas where civil courts were capable of functioning was illegal and the president didn't have the power to do what he did. I think if Lincoln never got shot, and if people knew how Lincoln really felt about Blacks, he though them very inferior to whites and wanted to deport all the freed slaves overseas because he didn't think the two races could live together, he would probably have gone down as one of the worst US presidents Do you find this valuable? |
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11ACRBlackhorse |
52. RE: GOP candidate race....
Feb 23 2012, 12:33 PM EST
"All that sounds pretty good to me !He did lots wrong but stopped the US from becoming the American Balkans. All the states fighting each other and none bigger than maybe NY or Texas. Lincoln like JFK got shot which usually wipes the slate of wrong doing. The emotional tragady of the Pres getting shot overpowers everything else and instant hero. Do you find this valuable? |
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Marsden |
53. RE: GOP candidate race....
Feb 23 2012, 2:21 PM EST
From a Social Democrat's perspective I would have to vote Ron Paul.The last thing the world needs is an illogical war with Iran. Consider the following sentence. "Iran has a weapon of mass destruction and we must invade to prevent them using it against the peace loving world." Now change ONE letter in that sentence and think back 10 years. If we get into a war with Iran we'll be doing Iraq all over again except. Iran is 400% bigger than Iraq and has 150% more people. It would be near impossible to police. It is bigger than Vietnam, Iraq and Afghanistan combined. Based upon this logic the only candidate I could support would be an anti-war one. 4 out of 5 found this valuable. Do you? |
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IrishHitman |
54. RE: GOP candidate race....
Feb 23 2012, 7:55 PM EST
"You have no clue what our system is and what a US replublican is or wants. Left leaning to a US conservative or Republican is a lot different than to a Irish or european conservative.ACR, I have every clue as to what the American political system is, because no sane person on the Earth can afford to not follow US politics. The situation of the Irish military is irrelevant for an analysis of the US military. We don't have any enemies, we don't need a large military. Anyone who wants to occupy us would simply be pushed out by guerrilla warfare and what you would probably call terrorism. We're a country of a few million people, comparing us to a country of 300+ million, which is also the richest in the world, is a ridiculous statement to make. Obama doesn't dislike the US military. Iraq was Bush's war, but Afghanistan is Obama's war. He claimed it when he paid attention to it. That and Libya, though the French took the lead on that (lol). I'm not saying you're a fascist, I'm saying it's an impossibility to classify Rick Santorum as a left winger. No left winger wants to ban condoms or reduce taxes on the rich. Do you find this valuable? |
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IrishHitman |
55. RE: GOP candidate race....
Feb 23 2012, 8:04 PM EST
"That is a complete load of BS. Most europeans hated the US years before either Bush became President.Hating the United States comes easy when you have warmongering Republican administrations that want to drag European countries into the wars as well. Or so I keep hearing from people, Ireland is neutral, that doesn't really affect me. Ireland has Facebook, Google, IBM, Microsoft, Pfizer, EMC, and feck knows how many other large companies exporting from its shores. Ireland's problem is with its banks, they were full of gangsters and corrupt bastards, they ran up debts like no tomorrow. The reason Ireland isn't rioting like Greece is precisely because we still have a strong economy if one can put the debt aside. Greece has beaches, that's about it. The rhetoric of some of the religious right in the US is very theocratic. It would be familiar to the Taliban or the clerics of Iran. It is the language of tyranny cloaked in God's protection. They want to create a Christian nation for Christians only. I don't hate the US, I hate ignorance. American ignorance is only obvious because of its power, there's plenty elsewhere. Do you find this valuable? |
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LWJ2009 |
56. RE: GOP candidate race....
Feb 23 2012, 8:53 PM EST
"Hating the United States comes easy when you have warmongering Republican administrations that want to drag European countries into the wars as well. Or so I keep hearing from people, Ireland is neutral, that doesn't really affect me.I just thought your country was full of Pub's and drunks. Maybe the reason why your not rioting yet is the fact that nobody has manged to sober up yet. Its time to start singing Seven drunken nights! Do you find this valuable? |
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Marsden |
57. RE: GOP candidate race....
Feb 23 2012, 9:12 PM EST
"I just thought your country was full of Pub's and drunks. Maybe the reason why your not rioting yet is the fact that nobody has manged to sober up yet. Its time to start singing Seven drunken nights!"Nope, the Irish don't riot. That's the Northern Irish's job! Do you find this valuable? |
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LWJ2009 |
58. RE: GOP candidate race....
Feb 23 2012, 9:28 PM EST
"Nope, the Irish don't riot.I thought the Northern Irish were just displaced Scots? Mixed in of course with the drunks! Do you find this valuable? |
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LJ126 |
59. RE: GOP candidate race....
Feb 23 2012, 9:58 PM EST
I like Ron Paul. I dislike virtually every other option out there. However, I think that even if, in the blue moon that he were elected president, he wouldn't be able to get a whole lot accomplished because the Republican party in Congress would block him on traditional Republican party issues (abortion, military spending, etc.) and the Democrats still in place will block him on everything else. In fact, Ron Paul might be the best choice simply because he would have to fight on every single front on every single issue, something that doesn't seem to happen now.
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