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brinker1923
brinker1923
Instant Messaging
Feb 7 2012, 7:55 PM EST | Post edited: Feb 7 2012, 7:55 PM EST
Okay, so I am doing a project about the civil war for school when an idea came to mind about a simple machine the telegraph

What would you guys think of setting up a system for your base and others around you? It would sure be hard to set up but it would sure beat walking for however long to tell other groups something. Do you find this valuable?    
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PedroAsani
PedroAsani
1. RE: Instant Messaging
Feb 7 2012, 8:22 PM EST | Post edited: Feb 7 2012, 8:22 PM EST
"Okay, so I am doing a project about the civil war for school when an idea came to mind about a simple machine the telegraph

What would you guys think of setting up a system for your base and others around you? It would sure be hard to set up but it would sure beat walking for however long to tell other groups something."
You should do a little more research on just what is required for telegraph communication. Then you will see why this would be a flawed solution. 1  out of 1 found this valuable. Do you?    
Braydonn
Braydonn
2. RE: Instant Messaging
Feb 7 2012, 8:23 PM EST | Post edited: Feb 7 2012, 8:23 PM EST
It would be a good idea to set up a telegraph network as a back up maybe! Depending on how far away other civilizations were, you could probably still use HAM and CV radios!
Best of luck with your school project! :) Do you find this valuable?    
redcomrad
redcomrad
4. RE: Instant Messaging
Feb 7 2012, 8:41 PM EST | Post edited: Feb 7 2012, 8:41 PM EST
Use runners on horseback/vehicle and the messages they carry are encoded. But don't use one runner use a couple and only give one the message, the others give them something useless like a pair of dice, you know like decoys. Another idea is if your allies aren't to far away make underground tunnels to their base or your outposts. Do you find this valuable?    
brinker1923
brinker1923
5. RE: Instant Messaging
Feb 7 2012, 9:03 PM EST | Post edited: Feb 7 2012, 9:03 PM EST
"You should do a little more research on just what is required for telegraph communication. Then you will see why this would be a flawed solution."
Power (solar power/hand crank generators would be fine), lots of wire, some wood and metal for a very basic one...advanced one would be more complicated but if you could pull it off it might be worth it

and pedro I'm not trying to say its flawless but just more of an idea worth thinking about Do you find this valuable?    
StrykerPez
StrykerPez
6. RE: Instant Messaging
Feb 7 2012, 9:07 PM EST | Post edited: Feb 7 2012, 9:07 PM EST
"Telegraph was not that hard of a system to set up. Electromagnets for it are not a problem. Stringing and maintaining the wires is the second most difficult part. The most difficult is training people to use the code (probably Morse, but it could be unique).

On the other hand, it would not be difficult to set of a dynamic telephone link using mostly the same equipment."
Zee_Man said:
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StrykerPez
StrykerPez
7. RE: Instant Messaging
Feb 7 2012, 9:10 PM EST | Post edited: Feb 7 2012, 9:10 PM EST
I closed the other thread. That was the only reply on it.

Anyway. My opinion?

Telegraph is cool, but radio is easier.
I can talk to the entire western hemisphere and I didn't have to run wires anywhere.

Just a few really big antennas :-P Do you find this valuable?    
brinker1923
brinker1923
8. RE: Instant Messaging
Feb 7 2012, 9:19 PM EST | Post edited: Feb 7 2012, 9:19 PM EST
but don't you need a big power source for radio? Do you find this valuable?    
Zee-Man
Zee-Man
9. RE: Instant Messaging
Feb 7 2012, 9:20 PM EST | Post edited: Feb 7 2012, 9:20 PM EST
"Power (solar power/hand crank generators would be fine), lots of wire, some wood and ..."
Will also need step up transformers. The electronics for this are very basic. The mechanicals for a printer are more complex. The system, assuming the use of solar power, is (IMHO) easier to do nowadays than when it was invented.

My earlier post hasnt made it yet, so at risk of repetition. Easier to establish is dynamic telephony. Again, a system that will be reliant on additional circuitry such as step up transformers, solar power.
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PedroAsani
PedroAsani
10. RE: Instant Messaging
Feb 7 2012, 9:26 PM EST | Post edited: Feb 7 2012, 9:28 PM EST
"Power (solar power/hand crank generators would be fine), lots of wire, some wood and metal for a very basic one...advanced one would be more complicated but if you could pull it off it might be worth it

and pedro I'm not trying to say its flawless but just more of an idea worth thinking about"
If you have wire and power for this, then you have a telephone system. You can't dial without a PBX, but you could revert to a switchboard/operator with a little ingenuity.

All the voice modulation/demodulation is done in the phone. Telegraph would be superceded instantly. THAT is why I said a little more research was needed. Do you find this valuable?    
brinker1923
brinker1923
11. RE: Instant Messaging
Feb 7 2012, 9:57 PM EST | Post edited: Feb 7 2012, 9:57 PM EST
"THAT is why I said a little more research was needed."
Sorry lol, miss communication. When you said more research I assumed you meant telegraph not telephone. Do you find this valuable?    
StrykerPez
StrykerPez
12. RE: Instant Messaging
Feb 8 2012, 12:23 AM EST | Post edited: Feb 8 2012, 12:23 AM EST
"but don't you need a big power source for radio?"
Nope. Most of my rigs are 12 volt anyways. I use an inverter when I run off line power. I have a solar panel fed through a regulator to a battery bank.

I can chat all night long when the skip is good off of battery power alone. Do you find this valuable?