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brandon_a_boyer
brandon_a_boyer
Emergency welding page
Feb 9 2012, 12:55 AM EST | Post edited: Feb 9 2012, 12:55 AM EST
I saw this as I was reviewing the welding portion of the survival guide. What direction was this going? Topics, ideas etc. Do you find this valuable?    
Keyword tags: fabrication welding
StrykerPez
StrykerPez
1. RE: Emergency welding page
Feb 9 2012, 1:00 AM EST | Post edited: Feb 9 2012, 1:00 AM EST
Using a few batteries in series and some jumper cables as an impromptu welder.

It works. I've done it. You can also use a MacGuyver-ed alternator but it won't be good to use for the car anymore.
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brandon_a_boyer
brandon_a_boyer
2. RE: Emergency welding page
Feb 9 2012, 1:20 AM EST | Post edited: Feb 9 2012, 1:20 AM EST
"Using a few batteries in series and some jumper cables as an impromptu welder.

It works. I've done it. You can also use a MacGuyver-ed alternator but it won't be good to use for the car anymore. "
Oh yeah, it's totally doable. Actually the best stick welders are motor-generator type. They produce the flattest possible power curve. With a little electrical know-how you can even add in voltage and current controls.
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StrykerPez
StrykerPez
3. RE: Emergency welding page
Feb 9 2012, 2:31 AM EST | Post edited: Feb 9 2012, 2:31 AM EST
Like if you were trapped in a parking garage and had to beef up a vehicle to escape... Scavenge all the cars for batteries, jumper cables, and such, I'm sure we could get some push bars and window cages done.

Might not be pretty, but it'll work.
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brandon_a_boyer
brandon_a_boyer
4. RE: Emergency welding page
Feb 9 2012, 9:00 AM EST | Post edited: Feb 9 2012, 9:00 AM EST
No I agree, with the right size electrode it will work.

I hope the OP of the page jumps in, i'd hate to see the page be nothing but a diagram of hooking up car batteries to a set of jumper cables.
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shadowmancer
shadowmancer
5. RE: Emergency welding page
Feb 18 2012, 6:36 PM EST | Post edited: Feb 18 2012, 6:38 PM EST
"Like if you were trapped in a parking garage and had to beef up a vehicle to escape... Scavenge all the cars for batteries, jumper cables, and such, I'm sure we could get some push bars and window cages done.

Might not be pretty, but it'll work. "
lol took longer than i expected to idiot proof it. Hopefully this one makes sense and meets with your guys approval. Didn't want to kill anyone lol
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brandon_a_boyer
brandon_a_boyer
6. RE: Emergency welding page
Feb 18 2012, 8:24 PM EST | Post edited: Feb 18 2012, 8:24 PM EST
Nice work, here are my notes.

1. Hooking batteries in series will increase voltage output but not battery capacity. A parallel circuit will multiply the capacity but not the voltage.

2. Batteries have capacity ratings,. The average car battery has a capacity of 45 amp/hours. which means that you can draw 90 amps for half an hour or 180 for 15 minutes (assuming you aren't exceeding the cranking amps).

3. Batteries also have a cranking amp rating, which is the highest amperage that the battery can reliably put out.

4. Most residential wire does not have the capacity to deal with the current that you would be using. you would need to run 4 or 5 standard 16 gauge wires to deal with the current draw.

5. Goggles are not sufficient protection for arc welding.

6. it takes 50 mA to stop your heart.

7. Moving the picture up top would help quite a bit.
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shadowmancer
shadowmancer
7. RE: Emergency welding page
Feb 18 2012, 9:10 PM EST | Post edited: Feb 18 2012, 9:10 PM EST
"Nice work, here are my notes.

1. Hooking batteries in series will increase voltage output but not battery capacity. A parallel circuit will multiply the capacity but not the voltage.

2. Batteries have capacity ratings,. The average car battery has a capacity of 45 amp/hours. which means that you can draw 90 amps for half an hour or 180 for 15 minutes (assuming you aren't exceeding the cranking amps).

3. Batteries also have a cranking amp rating, which is the highest amperage that the battery can reliably put out.

4. Most residential wire does not have the capacity to deal with the current that you would be using. you would need to run 4 or 5 standard 16 gauge wires to deal with the current draw.

5. Goggles are not sufficient protection for arc welding.

6. it takes 50 mA to stop your heart.

7. Moving the picture up top would help quite a bit."
ah thanks for the notes i'll get editing. if anyone else has any notes feel free to leave them
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StrykerPez
StrykerPez
8. RE: Emergency welding page
Feb 19 2012, 12:58 AM EST | Post edited: Feb 19 2012, 12:58 AM EST
I prettied up the page a bit. Good stuff, thanks. Do you find this valuable?    
shadowmancer
shadowmancer
9. RE: Emergency welding page
Feb 19 2012, 7:25 AM EST | Post edited: Feb 19 2012, 7:25 AM EST
"I prettied up the page a bit. Good stuff, thanks. "
thanks guys
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