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Zee-Man
Zee-Man
Tinder
Feb 9 2012, 9:33 PM EST | Post edited: Feb 9 2012, 9:33 PM EST
I would like to keep up with this page. If you have additional tinder ideas, but are not a Writer yet, please PM me and I will add it to the page. Writers, of course, should just add their examples into the image table. Do you find this valuable?    
Keyword tags: Fire Fire Starting Tinder
Sharpie41
Sharpie41
1. RE: Tinder
Feb 9 2012, 9:44 PM EST | Post edited: Feb 9 2012, 9:44 PM EST
http://survivalcache.com/fire-tinder/

Give ya a head start
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Zee-Man
Zee-Man
2. RE: Tinder
Feb 9 2012, 9:50 PM EST | Post edited: Feb 9 2012, 9:50 PM EST
Wood shavings are already on it, as are birch bark, and dryer lint. Ill add the vaseline balls and cattails though, thanks!
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Sharpie41
Sharpie41
3. RE: Tinder
Feb 9 2012, 9:57 PM EST | Post edited: Feb 9 2012, 9:57 PM EST
Check out the comments and you'll see a ton more ideas Do you find this valuable?    
Zee-Man
Zee-Man
4. RE: Tinder
Feb 9 2012, 10:24 PM EST | Post edited: Feb 9 2012, 10:24 PM EST
Well, there were 4 tinders and 1 accelerant there that are not on the page yet. The rest of the 3 pages of comments were not tinder ideas, but fire starter ideas. I'll pass the link on to White76Knight, he is working on that page.
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Sharpie41
Sharpie41
5. RE: Tinder
Feb 9 2012, 10:25 PM EST | Post edited: Feb 9 2012, 10:25 PM EST
"Well, there were 4 tinders and 1 accelerant there that are not on the page yet. The rest of the 3 pages of comments were not tinder ideas, but fire starter ideas. I'll pass the link on to White76Knight, he is working on that page.
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Ahh, okay
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MCS81
MCS81
6. RE: Tinder
Feb 10 2012, 8:40 AM EST | Post edited: Feb 10 2012, 8:40 AM EST
http://www.wildwoodsurvival.com/survival/fire/tinder/tinderfungus/index.html
Tinder fungus (the clue is in the name!)
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TreeLegs
TreeLegs
7. RE: Tinder
Feb 11 2012, 2:19 AM EST | Post edited: Feb 11 2012, 2:19 AM EST
Tampons. Basically super absorbant cotton balls and they have multiple uses. Plan on throwing some in my BOB. Do you find this valuable?    
Zee-Man
Zee-Man
8. RE: Tinder
Feb 11 2012, 9:23 AM EST | Post edited: Feb 11 2012, 9:23 AM EST
Thanks MCS and TL, got em both on the page now
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whitefang10
whitefang10
9. RE: Tinder
Feb 12 2012, 3:23 AM EST | Post edited: Feb 12 2012, 3:23 AM EST
Making char cloth.

Needed: 100% cotton (old t-shirts, tea towels etc) sealable metal container with hole pricked in the top.

Put the 100% cotton into the tin, and put said tin onto a heat srouce (suit case stove for example) Smoke will start billowing out the whole, wait till the smoke stops and DO NOT open the tin Immediately, you run the risk of your char cloth setting alight and you will have to start again.

And, now you have char cloth. Just remember the material you use MUST be 100% cotton
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shadowmancer
shadowmancer
10. RE: Tinder
Feb 20 2012, 7:25 PM EST | Post edited: Feb 20 2012, 7:38 PM EST
tinder fungus, dry rotted wood, drift wood, punky wood, rabbit poo, spruce gum, birch tar :D lots of things can be used as tinder off the top of my head oh and termite damaged wood as well, paper wasp nests. these all work with my fire piston to spread the ember. It all depends on what you have to ignite it because steel wool could even be added to the list :D oh how could i forget dry leaves and Tabacco, dried nettle stems (they're a fiber plant used to be used in cloth making before cotton)

note the poo must be dry- dry cow poo can be used to keep fires smoldering for hours any herbivore poop will do really if it's dry. lol if you mix spruce gum with rabbit poop you have torch pitch oi sometimes i wonder about myself lol
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Zee-Man
Zee-Man
11. RE: Tinder
Feb 20 2012, 8:37 PM EST | Post edited: Feb 20 2012, 8:37 PM EST
Thanks shadow, some very good ideas there. I wonder about using dung for tinder. I know it makes good fuel. Does it flare up for fire starting though? Smoldering for fire transport is a good characteristic, although not for tinder. Several other items in your list are already on the page, including steel wool : )

@whitefang

Thanks for the char cloth info. The caution about man made fibers is duly noted. Incidently, cotton is almost universaly recommended because of it common availability. Other natural fibers work equally well. Consider linen (hemp fiber) and damask (flax fiber) pure silk (silk worm fiber) hessian or burlap (jute fiber) and bamboo.

Certain man made fibers might still be used, consider modal which is cellulose and considered a kind of rayon. Im not sure about this though, so if you choose to use "rayon" experiment carefully.
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shadowmancer
shadowmancer
12. RE: Tinder
Feb 20 2012, 8:44 PM EST | Post edited: Feb 20 2012, 8:57 PM EST
why this posted twice is beyond me. Do you find this valuable?    
shadowmancer
shadowmancer
13. RE: Tinder
Feb 20 2012, 8:55 PM EST | Post edited: Feb 20 2012, 9:11 PM EST
i should have worded it more carefully - hooked grass eaters (cows) poo is good for fire transport and fuel as their digestive tracts compress it into very dense briquettes. Non grass eaters and animals with simpler digestive tracts such as rabbits the poo can ignite on their own and can be used in many different things. they are excellent tinder because of the loose filaments of undigested fiber surrounded in a combustible fuel. I couldn't stop laughing that I was writing about poop. Elephant poo is the most useful poo of them all it acts as a building material, a fire material and a source of paper...... its kind of gross, but where the heck will i find an elephant? Herbivore poop is grossly useful in survival you just have to be able to identify the types. The rule of thumb is Crumbling poo is tinder. This poo has leftover plant matter and a solid fuel source. Solid hard poo is smoldering fuel and make sure the poo is dry wet poo is just a mess waiting to happen. lol lol oh this concludes the lecture on the wonderful world of poop lollollol Do you find this valuable?    
Zee-Man
Zee-Man
14. RE: Tinder
Feb 20 2012, 10:13 PM EST | Post edited: Feb 20 2012, 10:13 PM EST
OK then! Yeah I find it easier to type with a straight face if I use "feces" or "dung". "Poo" is just---------rofl!
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MCS81
MCS81
15. RE: Tinder
Mar 7 2012, 7:34 PM EST | Post edited: Mar 7 2012, 7:34 PM EST
I had a quick look and I haven't seen any mention of using strips of bicycle tire inner tube. They can be cut small and are light so take up very little space. Of course you need a flame to light them such as a lighter or match but the purpose is to hold a flame longer than other tinders and in the wet, giving your other materials a chance to catch (which would be difficult to do using a lighter or match directly.)
Ray Mears uses this technique in the exceptionally damp environment of the rain forest http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5fcMbAHLXBo
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Zee-Man
Zee-Man
16. RE: Tinder
Mar 7 2012, 8:18 PM EST | Post edited: Mar 7 2012, 8:18 PM EST
"I had a quick look and I haven't seen any mention of using strips of bicycle tire inner tube. They can be cut small and are light so take up very little space. Of course you need a flame to light them such as a lighter or match but the purpose is to hold a flame longer than other tinders and in the wet, giving your other materials a chance to catch (which would be difficult to do using a lighter or match directly.)
Ray Mears uses this technique in the exceptionally damp environment of the rain forest http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5fcMbAHLXBo"
MCS, Hot idea! Though, strips of inner tube are a fire starter not really a tinder. You might drop a message to White76Knight with this. He is writing the page on alternative fire starters.
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JBarlocker
JBarlocker
17. RE: Tinder
Mar 8 2012, 3:02 AM EST | Post edited: Mar 8 2012, 3:02 AM EST
For tinder in a wet area try splitting open a dead branch that is lodged in something above the ground (read: less wet than stuff on the ground). Once split make feather sticks with the dry parts inside.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feather_stick
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