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Carnack
Carnack
Brothel Trap
Feb 10 2012, 7:02 PM EST | Post edited: Feb 10 2012, 7:06 PM EST
So I was reading something online (don't ask) and in it while the main guy was immersed in one of the brothel wares the owners captured him in his distracted state.

Looking at it it seems crafty. Not many people are all that aware when they're "in the moment" and it's not like they have a tactical holster for those gotta-get-off moments.

In addition the old rule of "If you weren't drawing babes before Z-Day it wont happen after Z-day" doesn't apply since it's all business. Beauty is just a footnote on the charging slip. You could be the frigging Yeti (Sasquatch?) and it wouldn't mean a whit.

And finally let's be honest here. People got needs and many will not be too interested after ZP in being Sherlock Holmes with so many willing people around.

And finally let's also note that prostitution does not draw the most wholesome characters. It's already a draw for the underbelly of society so after ZP the business of selling or renting out women and men for sex slaves will see quite a boom. Prime business opportunity.

So what do you all think? Is this a concern? How do you propose alleviating the issue?
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Keyword tags: Brothel raider tactics. traps
Sharpie41
Sharpie41
1. RE: Brothel Trap
Feb 10 2012, 7:32 PM EST | Post edited: Feb 10 2012, 7:32 PM EST
I agree with it being an issue, if the people were there willingly I wouldn't do much, if they were there by force, I would try a rescue mission, recce the area, see if the mission is do able Do you find this valuable?    
Zee-Man
Zee-Man
2. RE: Brothel Trap
Feb 10 2012, 8:01 PM EST | Post edited: Feb 10 2012, 8:01 PM EST
Carmack, it seems you have 2 issues on the table.

1) Self-defense while conjugating
2) The morality of Zpoc brothels.

1) A highly personal response for this. I have never lost the mother-may-come-through-the-door-any-moment sensitivity. Short of a gang barging in, Im not going to be surprised by a lone assailant.

2) I do not find brothels to be unsavory places currently. In the US, where prostitution is legal (Nevada, Puerto Rico) there is a much lower chance of contracting STDs. The quality of the romp is better too, I hear. Anywhere else, it is dangerous, both biologically and physically. After the Zpoc begins, slavery is going to be a bigger concern. Which brings up a third issue...

3) In the early stages of Zpoc life, I will not be engaging in slavery. Neither will I have the resources to deal with slavers (unless they are attacking me). Until I have enough territory under control, the slavers will be safe from me so long as they stay clear. Staying clear includes not preying upon me and mine. Leading to a fourth issue....

4) While I am adverse to slavery, I am not opposed to coerced labor as a penal restitution. Nor am I opposed to indentured service.
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Carnack
Carnack
3. RE: Brothel Trap
Feb 10 2012, 8:09 PM EST | Post edited: Feb 10 2012, 8:09 PM EST
I'm staying out of the morality thing. The fact is that we can ***** and moan till our jaws melt and the sex trade will be chugging (or is that *******?) along.

However I did not mean to be general about my statement but generally speaking it holds. After the legal hassles disappear the slave trades in general will explode into orbit. You won't see to many kindly madams and pimps when the rules disappear. I'd bet money on that.

Please don't turn this into a morality thing. I've never had a thread of mine get locked and that's one first I don't want :p
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Uzzgub
Uzzgub
4. RE: Brothel Trap
Feb 10 2012, 9:22 PM EST | Post edited: Feb 10 2012, 9:22 PM EST
If they tried to take me or my group then any slavers will be meet with force, but I wouldn't try and take them on unless I could deal with them without it being a meat-grinder of a fight

I also wouldn't have a ***** house in my colony, unless it was willing staffed, but all the lady's in my pre arranged group are married or with partners so I doubt it would happen, but I would only try and stop it if it forced, again because its a pre arranged group I doubt it would happen

And for a by note I wouldn't have salves myself, if someone had done something bad enough to be made one, I would rather execute them to save future problems, Sparta springs to mind.
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Uzzgub
Uzzgub
5. RE: Brothel Trap
Feb 10 2012, 9:26 PM EST | Post edited: Feb 10 2012, 9:37 PM EST
P.s. I wouldn't be visiting a brothel as my wife is in my group, and if she has died I still wouldn't pay for it lol

But its a good trap to capture people if your looking to get slaves or fodder for the zeds etc.
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redcomrad
redcomrad
6. RE: Brothel Trap
Feb 11 2012, 12:10 AM EST | Post edited: Feb 11 2012, 12:10 AM EST
It will be legal but if your a business like say a bar, you will need a license. Street prostitution will be legal but they will still have to pay taxes just like everybody else, and as long as nobody's forcing somebody i don't care, and as long as little boys and girls stay out of it well I'm cool. Prostitutes and pimps will though be frowned upon by society, and the sex trade will probably be catered to foreigners primarily. Do you find this valuable?    
Carnack
Carnack
7. RE: Brothel Trap
Feb 11 2012, 12:21 AM EST | Post edited: Feb 11 2012, 12:21 AM EST
*sighs*

Does anyone see brothels being used to capture and rob people while they are indisposed?
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Uzzgub
Uzzgub
8. RE: Brothel Trap
Feb 11 2012, 12:28 AM EST | Post edited: Feb 11 2012, 12:28 AM EST
"*sighs*

Does anyone see brothels being used to capture and rob people while they are indisposed?"
It could happen but why people would do it unless they want to feed them to the zeds for what ever reason, or to use them as slaves I have no idea

Apart from the normal reasons that some one would kidnap someone
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redcomrad
redcomrad
9. RE: Brothel Trap
Feb 11 2012, 12:31 AM EST | Post edited: Feb 11 2012, 12:31 AM EST
"*sighs*

Does anyone see brothels being used to capture and rob people while they are indisposed?"
maybe, i see it more likely to be an established buisness possibly mobile you know a "love caravan" of sorts
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zombie0human156
10. RE: Brothel Trap
Feb 11 2012, 12:44 AM EST | Post edited: Feb 11 2012, 12:44 AM EST
I would agree with Uzzqub that there would only be one if the staff where willing. but apart from that if I am up on a hunt and see people forcing people to be their slave I would take shots at them. And with the 30-06 the slaver would not know what hit them. Do you find this valuable?    
JunkCollector
JunkCollector
11. RE: Brothel Trap
Feb 11 2012, 1:00 AM EST | Post edited: Feb 11 2012, 11:15 AM EST
I don't kiss'm on the lips (Jayne Cob - Fire Fly)

On occasion if a mans alone it may come to a dire want to have a good time in a brothel. There will have to be precautions taken such as:

Hide most of your gear so if it is a trap and you can get away you still have most of your gear.
Keep a small knife in a discreet place (buttocks for example).
A small pistol that never leaves your pocket, hand, or under a pillow.
Keep your pants and boots on (69 style through your zipper will allow for quick actions and access to your weapon.
Scope out the place to see if a lot of men going in the front door don't come back out.
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TreeLegs
TreeLegs
12. RE: Brothel Trap
Feb 11 2012, 1:10 AM EST | Post edited: Feb 11 2012, 1:10 AM EST
"*sighs*

Does anyone see brothels being used to capture and rob people while they are indisposed?"
Oh most definatly. Honestly, it wouldn't suprise me if someone was trying to "start a new utopia by killing all the unsavories" kinda thing. You don't know if the women are actually canibals either. "Hey guys look! It says free foursomes!" Hey, Im a strong guy, but in a bedroom caught in a "compromising situation" it could still turn bad for me if they wanted it to.

Brings to mine that whole Siren's song scenario.
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Sharpie41
Sharpie41
13. RE: Brothel Trap
Feb 11 2012, 1:12 AM EST | Post edited: Feb 11 2012, 1:12 AM EST
"*sighs*

Does anyone see brothels being used to capture and rob people while they are indisposed?"
I guess so, wait until the john drops his guard (as his pants, as it were/would) then try and rob him
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chitoryu12
chitoryu12
14. RE: Brothel Trap
Feb 11 2012, 2:20 PM EST | Post edited: Feb 11 2012, 2:20 PM EST
It would be pretty easy depending on the customer; if they end up full nude or pantsless, they're going to have a hard time hiding weapons and keeping any hidden weapons easy to access. Someone who just unzips will still be able to keep at least something on him, maybe even able to bypass a search.

On the other hand, a search or a full nude requirement in the room would end up leaving you defenseless (or almost defenseless, depending on how crafty you are.....). From there it's not too difficult to have you whacked over the head by the hooker while you're distracted.
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DonovanRichter
DonovanRichter
15. RE: Brothel Trap
Feb 11 2012, 2:51 PM EST | Post edited: Feb 11 2012, 2:51 PM EST
*You walk into the brothel hoping to finally get some action with the one they call deedee. You enter the dimly lit room and the smell of a floral incense hits your nose as a sultry voice beckons you over to the bed. As the silhouette of the figure becomes more apparent, you see that it is actually Dono decked out like Tim Curry in the Rocky Horror Picture Show. You scream to those unwitting customers outside "It's a Trap!" as you sprint for dear life. you can feel the Dono's claws tearing through the air, only inches from your shoulders as you flee the building in abject horror. *

No, really though, prostitutes don't have to be comprised of the underbelly of society, in some cultures prostitution was a very high class job and even in some parts of our own country prostitutes are seen more as proud professional entertainers rather than deject and hopeless pariahs. =^_^=

But Zeeman, I do always like to bring up, historically speaking, in states where big bucks can be made (slavery) as a means of penal restitution, the crime rate skyrockets =*_*= Not because more crimes are done, but because those in power start convicting everything they can and coming up with bogus charges all for profits. I like to keep justice away from anything that could entice someone.
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SGTGerman
SGTGerman
16. RE: Brothel Trap
Feb 11 2012, 3:36 PM EST | Post edited: Feb 11 2012, 3:36 PM EST
Before arriving in NI I was told all about "Honey Traps" etc. Lads I know who served in Germany can tell you stories about their mates who were too busy to go to the cash point and gave their pin numbers to the prossies and the next da have a balance of £0.00. Do you find this valuable?    
timberrattler
timberrattler
17. RE: Brothel Trap
Feb 11 2012, 3:54 PM EST | Post edited: Feb 11 2012, 3:54 PM EST
A brothel would make an excellent trap.

You bait a trap with something that is so irresistable that the target stops paying attention to its surroundings.

I don't even think you'd have to take it to the prostitution level. Even in a post apoc situation I'd say a naked woman walking along the side of the road would distract a guy enough for her partners to get the drop on him.
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redcomrad
redcomrad
18. RE: Brothel Trap
Feb 11 2012, 3:57 PM EST | Post edited: Feb 11 2012, 3:57 PM EST
"Before arriving in NI I was told all about "Honey Traps" etc. Lads I know who served in Germany can tell you stories about their mates who were too busy to go to the cash point and gave their pin numbers to the prossies and the next da have a balance of £0.00. "
*Shrugs* At least they had a good time, i heard them German gals aint so bad gentle like a Western-European built like an Eastern-European
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Frag-12
Frag-12
19. RE: Brothel Trap
Feb 11 2012, 4:09 PM EST | Post edited: Feb 11 2012, 4:09 PM EST
I wonder if they will have toothless zed whores in the Brothels just like from a popular zombie genre media (don't want to ruin anything)? Ewwww! Do you find this valuable?    
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