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oldannyboy37 |
Grab and go carryall vest/chest rig.
Feb 12 2012, 10:44 PM EST
I've been thinking a lot about BOBs lately. The concept is pretty simple; a bag that carries all of the essentials to get you the heck out of dodge and to a safer place. We've discussed grab and go vest but I don't think we've really covered the full potential of the subject. Here's my idea; A vest/chest rig that can be worn in conjunction with a backpack or hydration rig. That can hold long gun ammo and pistol ammo. That has utility pouches for medical supplies and first aid stuff. A few misc. items that you think will come in handy like cleaning and maintenance of your gear. Maybe a spare pair of glasses or contacts for those that wear them. A rig for an edged tool like a knife. A multi-tool. Lastly an integration for a hand gun. The purpose of sticking this stuff on the rig would be to have a grab and go rig that holds most of the essential stuff you might need in an emergency. It's designed to either replace certain aspects of a BOB or to be used in conjunction with one. Currently I'm putting together my chest rig to carry a lot more than just rifle/pistol mags. I've been working on integrating different pouches on my rig while keeping it light and lower profile. I'm running an Eagle rig with a MOLLE bib. So far I've got 5 rifle mags, a spare set of glasses, a flashlight, a multi-tool, a whet stone, a set of Mechanix gloves, a 10x monocular and a Cold Steel tanto knife integrated to my rig. I've got a low profile hydration pouch that slides under it too. I'm fixing to put a MOLLE lock holster on the bib up top for a handgun too. So I'll have rifle ammo, pistol ammo, a pistol and a knife strapped within immediate reach. When I get paid again I'm going to strap a dump pouch and a medical kit with my remaining space too. It will also fit with a BOB. What are you guy's thoughts on the philosophy of a grab and go rig? Would you or do you run one? Do you find this valuable?
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BOB
chest rig
Tactical vest
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StrykerPez |
1. RE: Grab and go carryall vest/chest rig.
Feb 12 2012, 10:56 PM EST
I do. CamelBak LBV with full molle straps. I have a butt pouch, a few mag pouches, a gear pouch, admin pouch, some grenade pouches (small stuff), and some other misc pouches (flashlight, multitool, etc) I also modified my old ALICE bug out bag to attach to the rear of the Camelbak with four quick release straps. Do you find this valuable? |
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oldannyboy37 |
2. RE: Grab and go carryall vest/chest rig.
Feb 12 2012, 10:58 PM EST
That sounds like a cool rig SP. I have an ALICE belt and suspenders rig too but the Eagle is a lot more comfortable.
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StrykerPez |
3. RE: Grab and go carryall vest/chest rig.
Feb 13 2012, 1:33 AM EST
The CamelBak Tactical Hydration vest is comfy as hell. It carries weight really well and you hardly notice the 102 oz of water.
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oldannyboy37 |
4. RE: Grab and go carryall vest/chest rig.
Feb 13 2012, 1:38 AM EST
"The CamelBak Tactical Hydration vest is comfy as hell. It carries weight really well and you hardly notice the 102 oz of water. "That's awesome. I was looking at those before I bought my Eagle. Do you find this valuable? |
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KyanCross |
5. RE: Grab and go carryall vest/chest rig.
Feb 13 2012, 1:52 AM EST
Jus wondering but how does the camelback hydration vest feel with a BOB on?
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oldannyboy37 |
6. RE: Grab and go carryall vest/chest rig.
Feb 13 2012, 2:11 AM EST
"Jus wondering but how does the camelback hydration vest feel with a BOB on?"Just for you I tried my rig on over a large bag with 50+ pounds of books in it. I realize you were inquiring about the camel back vest but I have some relevant information to your question. With a back that's been loaded past it's recommended carry weight and stuffed completely full with not an inch to spare the back doesn't leave much room for any kind of hydration pouch. I tried to slip my pouch on underneath my bag but I had some issues. I've slid it under bags that weren't so stuffed before and it fit just fine. So if you're wanting to haul a larger bag with a lot of stuff you may be better off putting the hydration system on the bag it's self. With my friend's 5.11 vest which has a similar profile slipping a bag on was a problem. It can be managed but it's very uncomfortable. I tried the same thing with my Rhodesian style chest rig and just slid it on over the stuffed back pack and it fit just fine and was actually plenty comfortable. If you're wanting to integrate a bag and a vest/rig together it seems like a Rhodesian style rig is your best bet. Do you find this valuable? |
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KyanCross |
7. RE: Grab and go carryall vest/chest rig.
Feb 13 2012, 2:15 AM EST
"Just for you I tried my rig on over a large bag with 50+ pounds of books in it. I realize you were inquiring about the camel back vest but I have some relevant information to your question.hahaha thanks for the immediate input. A few weeks ago I remember we had the discussion about the eagle vest now SP mentioned a hydration vest ( i never knew they exisited until now) and was wondering if I should get that instead of a regular tac vest as a better investment. Do you find this valuable? |
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oldannyboy37 |
8. RE: Grab and go carryall vest/chest rig.
Feb 13 2012, 2:29 AM EST
"hahaha thanks for the immediate input. A few weeks ago I remember we had the discussion about the eagle vest now SP mentioned a hydration vest ( i never knew they exisited until now) and was wondering if I should get that instead of a regular tac vest as a better investment."It might be a better investment. Really a tac vest like the Camelback or the 5.11 are pretty rockin. They offer a crap ton of MOLLE space compared to my rig. As with all things there's pros and cons though I suppose lol. I like Rhodesian rigs so long as I don't have to MOLLE the kitchen sink off them lol. My advice is to consider what all you want to integrate into your rig and what you expect your rig to be able to do reasonably. If you want a vest that will carry more conveniently the regular vest might be better; if you want a vest that's more compatible with different clothing and backpacks the Rhodesian might be a little better. Do you find this valuable? |
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White76Knight |
9. RE: Grab and go carryall vest/chest rig.
Feb 14 2012, 12:09 AM EST
"What are you guy's thoughts on the philosophy of a grab and go rig? Would you or do you run one? "I've discussed a three part Bug Out set on my Survival Gear page. The first part is just an EDC Pack, the second part id a Scramble Vest which contains just the basic gear that would be needed for combat (ammo, cleaning supplies, melee weapon and whatnot, plus a few basic survival supplies, pretty much like you described), and the third part is the Bug Out Bag itself. If you're interested, you can check out these kits, and the contents of each, here: www.zombiesurvivalwiki.com/page/White76Knight%27s+Survival+Gear Do you find this valuable? |
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moonshade13 |
10. RE: Grab and go carryall vest/chest rig.
Feb 14 2012, 9:18 AM EST
"I've discussed a three part Bug Out set on my Survival Gear page.This is similar to how I have my set up configured. I need to work on my EDC though. Chest rig mainly for combat as it only has enough food/water for 1day. BOB with all the extended gear. My BOB supports adding a water bladder, but I currently don't have one for it. Gear list is in my profile. Definately an on-going WIP. I obtain thought about finding a way to merge my vest & pack into one unit, but there might be a time when you need to NOT look like you are ready for all out war, so I kind of dropped that project. Do you find this valuable? |
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White76Knight |
11. RE: Grab and go carryall vest/chest rig.
Feb 14 2012, 11:08 AM EST
"This is similar to how I have my set up configured. I need to work on my EDC though. Chest rig mainly for combat as it only has enough food/water for 1day. BOB with all the extended gear. My BOB supports adding a water bladder, but I currently don't have one for it. Gear list is in my profile. Definately an on-going WIP.I have a light days rations in my EDC pack, but my vest has no food or water at all. The vest is instead, as you say, mainly for combat. Given Canadian Laws, I'm not allowed to carry firearms on my person, so by the time things have gotten bad enough that I have to break out this vest, looking like I'm ready for all out war won't matter anymore. Do you find this valuable? |
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cas13f |
12. RE: Grab and go carryall vest/chest rig.
Feb 14 2012, 2:01 PM EST
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Something to think about...I've carried a 50+ lb ruck with a hydration carrier under it. Not part of a vest, but a hydration carrier. There was no problem, aside from the worry of popping it if I fell over. The reason there was no problem was that the ruck used a full external frame--the frame covered the ENTIRE back of the pack, and was molded so that it would go against a human back without pressure points. That molding allowed it to fit over the hydration carrier without problem. Food for thought: Invest in your gear. Take care of your gear. Take care of your quality gear and it will take care of you. While it may cost more, a slightly higher price point will introduce higher quality equipment that is designed better that will reduce fatigue and increase comfort.. The CJ-5 may be "the" Jeep and started it all, and can be had in workable condition for cheap, but my 2011 Wrangler (JK is the model series) is not only more capable, I even get the creature comforts, but I'm paying for it. Do you find this valuable? |
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LJ126 |
13. RE: Grab and go carryall vest/chest rig.
Feb 14 2012, 2:19 PM EST
Analytical Survival on Youtube discusses this exact topic, if you all haven't checked out his channel, you're missing out. Former Army SF medic, down with the long-term survival stuff. Check it out!Anyway, his BOB is a two-part setup - main BOB is a medium ALICE, which holds non-essentials, but the guts of it lives in an LC-1 gunbelt and harness setup. The buttpack on the belt carries survival essentials; if for some reason he had to ditch the ruck, he'd have enough on his person to live for a while - but he's portable enough to fight if he had to. If he had to bug out, the LC-1 would be on his person essentially all the time. I think it's an ingenious solution, as it's simple and attainable for anyone. Personally, I wanna do something similar to this. The LC-1 belt and harness would become my basic survival setup, and left ready to go, and my actual BOB would carry longer-term items like food, clothing, etc. And... this avoids looking too high-speed, like a MOLLE chest rig would. Maybe I'm off on the wrong planet again though. Do you find this valuable? |
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White76Knight |
14. RE: Grab and go carryall vest/chest rig.
Feb 14 2012, 5:39 PM EST
"Analytical Survival on Youtube discusses this exact topic, if you all haven't checked out his channel, you're missing out. Former Army SF medic, down with the long-term survival stuff. Check it out!Thanks LJ. I'll be checking out his stuff. Do you find this valuable? |
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StrykerPez |
15. RE: Grab and go carryall vest/chest rig.
Feb 14 2012, 6:25 PM EST
This ties in with what I was saying on the "Utility Belt" thread. Have different "layers" of your gear to allow for flexibility in different situations. How I did it: Start with a heavy duty nylon web belt. Standard leather belts will NOT handle the strain of even wearing a holster all day. Add a drop leg MOLLE panel on the left and a leg holster on the right. KaBar also on left, separate from drop leg. MOLLE panel holds flashlight, multitool, mini survival kit. The left drop leg can be quick-detached if I want just weapons. If I need to kit up more, I add the Camelbak vest. Many pouches, and a shotgun scabbard and machete. It has its own belt so it can be donned and doffed independently of the leg holster and such. If I'm bugging out on foot, I add the modified ALICE pack - toilet paper, food, ammo, water purification, camping, etc. I can also carry the duffel bag over my shoulders, and perhaps a few totes of food and ammo, although not very far. I'll see if I can get some pics. Do you find this valuable? |
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StrykerPez |
16. RE: Grab and go carryall vest/chest rig.
Feb 14 2012, 6:40 PM EST
Here's the pack attached to the vest. http://www.zombiesurvivalwiki.com/photo/13319416/Stryker%27s+Pack+and+Vest+Hybrid And here it is separate. Notice the pack does not have a frame or shoulder straps. http://www.zombiesurvivalwiki.com/photo/13319418/Stryker%27s+Pack+and+Vest+Separate Do you find this valuable? |
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White76Knight |
17. RE: Grab and go carryall vest/chest rig.
Feb 14 2012, 11:31 PM EST
"Here's the pack attached to the vest.So the vest can be used without the pack, but the pack can't be used without the vest? Are you sure that's a good idea? I mean, what if something happens to your vest? Do you find this valuable? |
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StrykerPez |
18. RE: Grab and go carryall vest/chest rig.
Feb 15 2012, 12:21 AM EST
"So the vest can be used without the pack, but the pack can't be used without the vest?Some paracord to tie the shoulder straps to the lower straps, almost good as new LOL. I never really thought about that before, although if I somehow lose the vest and not the pack, I think I'd have worse things to worry about then how to carry the pack. Do you find this valuable? |
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White76Knight |
19. RE: Grab and go carryall vest/chest rig.
Feb 15 2012, 2:14 AM EST
"Some paracord to tie the shoulder straps to the lower straps, almost good as new LOL.Probably, but it's just something to consider. Like you said, as long as there's some paracord or something in the pack you should be fine anyway. Do you find this valuable? |