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Zee-Man
Zee-Man
20. RE: Trip to Town.
Feb 19 2012, 3:15 PM EST | Post edited: Feb 19 2012, 3:15 PM EST
So, I'm a single man and it would be great if the girl was so grateful that she bonded with me and we lived happily ever after but Im afraid that happens OIM so all of that is not in the decision making. The question to rescue or not is the same for me now as it was before Zday. I and my group will effect a rescue.

I am not alone. My scavenging team is a fire team of 6. Manone and Ted are not likely to have lurkers about, their sadistic behavior having been repeated often is a clear indication that they have just been lucky. Even so I am one of 2 forward observers. The situation is not immanent so my team's second observer is already moving to the other side of the building. the rest of the fire team is moving up.

Since Manone is, by his admission, a repeat murderer, we will not have any problem giving him a summary trial and execution. Ted, as his accomplice, will be getting the same sentence. We are not considering anything less. Fire from concealment will be the attack method. Zack gets the spear in the head treatment.

Our group is strong enough to take in the extra person, so Prettygirl is in luck. Were we a smaller group she would have to meet selection criteria.

So now we need to know more about Prettygirl. Please fill out her profile.
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Carnack
Carnack
21. RE: Trip to Town.
Feb 19 2012, 3:16 PM EST | Post edited: Feb 19 2012, 3:16 PM EST
So I'd say if one were lucky an idiot could make it 3 months. Doesn't change anything but it's worth noting.

The bodies could be victims or again white knights. It does make the possability of having other people in that vehicle small but I cannot discount help because 3 people would not be all that easy to contain.

Like LJ said another vehicle may be around.

Lack of cover is troubling. Could be a coinidence or it could be intentional. Draw out people who feel they have a numerical advantage then stomp them with hidden gunners.

I'd still attempt a shot probably.

Post #17 My intervention is looking more and more likely. I'd pick off the guy with the revolver then switch to the guy with a shotgun.
No way of knowing the type of ammo he's packing but I've had easier times drawing a handgun quickly than doing the same with a shotgun slung on my back.

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Jahadaz
Jahadaz
22. RE: Trip to Town.
Feb 19 2012, 4:21 PM EST | Post edited: Feb 19 2012, 4:21 PM EST
I'd go about this a slightly different way.

Sneak over to the SUV, stick a rag in the gas tank and light it on fire. Run like heck.

Hopefully, the SUV will explode followed closely by the entire gas station. This will achieve a few things for me.
1- Mercy killing the woman
2- Anger killing the men
3- Preventative measure killing the zombie.

I would then head back to camp and have a group pow wow about the possibility of moving since the area appears to be going downhill.
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TreeLegs
TreeLegs
23. RE: Trip to Town.
Feb 19 2012, 4:50 PM EST | Post edited: Feb 19 2012, 4:53 PM EST
Alright, since it seems that a majority of people here would try to neutralize the two men, will pick up the scenario from there.

You manage to dispatch the two men and the Zed starting with the Man 2 carrying the revolver. Both men and zombie lay dead moments from one another. The woman falls to the ground exhausted and in shock. You collect their weapons while keeping an eye on her.

Through conversation, she tells you her name is Victoria and that she was ambushed yesterday by these two men and a third while her and her boyfriend Jeremy were out looking for supplies. He managed to shoot one with his revolver before he was taken down by the man with the shotgun. Her former occupation was a barista at the local coffee shop/book store and was using the money to put herself through school. She had aspired to become a surgical assistant and would read medical books that were stocked at the store in her free time. She tells you that she isn't even from this state and was only here for the school.

Jeremy was one of those "end of the world is coming" guys, but she just considered it one of his hobbies. He told her that he had a plan to get out, but it just happened that his truck was in the shop when SHTF and it made impossible to get to something called a "bug out location", so they decided to hunker down until he could find another way out with their stuff as her Prius didn't have the cargo space. They waited too long and most of the roads became too clogged with cars and the zombies made leaving on foot too risky so he turned his house into a small fortress.

You explain your situation to Victoria and she tells you that there is a lot of items that she thinks would be usefull to your group. She tells you that if you let her join you, she will show you where the house is.

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Carnack
Carnack
24. RE: Trip to Town.
Feb 19 2012, 5:00 PM EST | Post edited: Feb 19 2012, 5:00 PM EST
Well I'll point out that I wouldn't be in this situation having legged it after putting down the people.

That said however the way to go about it is to go and leave her at a midway point with food to last You going to your settlement and returning with an answer.

The questions are as follows:

Is this girl useful? Yes. A little medical knowledge is useful enough.
Can we afford the resource drain? Also yes.
Are we going for this equipment she told us about? Possibly. I'd say yes but the logistics could be troublesome.
How will we manage security? I'd say send two teams. One to escort her and scavenge the site. The other to stay back and hidden from her just in case this too-good-to-be-true scenario is too good to be true.
Do we feel we can trust her? I don't but that's normal.
Will we let her join us? I would.

How far away is the site? Would we need vehicles?

Sorry for the choppy comment. I'm a tad jazzed on caffiene.
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badderthanbond
badderthanbond
25. RE: Trip to Town.
Feb 19 2012, 5:09 PM EST | Post edited: Feb 19 2012, 5:09 PM EST
Sounds like we know Victoria's secret :) haha couldn't resist...

I would ask her if she was in immediate need of anything, blindfold her to take her to our camp, and then let her relax a bit before taking a team out this time. The caveat here would be that there could still be a group waiting to fire on you from the house, so I wouldn't let my guard down until we knew she could be trusted.
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TreeLegs
TreeLegs
26. RE: Trip to Town.
Feb 19 2012, 5:18 PM EST | Post edited: Feb 19 2012, 5:18 PM EST
Site is 4 miles away w/ 3 miles doable with a vehicle.

It would take multiple trips without a large vehicle.

Also, since some people have included teams instead of going solo, I would like to see both sides of that situation.
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Carnack
Carnack
27. RE: Trip to Town.
Feb 19 2012, 5:25 PM EST | Post edited: Feb 19 2012, 5:25 PM EST
Iwouldn't tackle the job alone. No way. Let her join as she does have skills we can use but I draw the line at going that far into unknown territory alone.

I'd need to know our fuel situation.
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JunkCollector
JunkCollector
28. RE: Trip to Town.
Feb 19 2012, 5:38 PM EST | Post edited: Feb 19 2012, 9:29 PM EST
Of course I would take her, she has many uses:

1. She is young and strong, so she can work.
2. She has some medical knowledge.
3. If she can lead us to her dead boyfriends stash and or BOL (especially if it's better than ours), that's just gravy.
4. Another young woman to bear children for the future on the group.
5. Because I am not leaving someone alone if they don't want to be. (I may be an as$, but even I will draw a line)!
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zombie0human156
29. RE: Trip to Town.
Feb 19 2012, 5:53 PM EST | Post edited: Feb 19 2012, 5:53 PM EST
"Site is 4 miles away w/ 3 miles doable with a vehicle.

It would take multiple trips without a large vehicle.

Also, since some people have included teams instead of going solo, I would like to see both sides of that situation."
I would go with her but not alone. The vehicle I drive is a pickup so multiple trips would be less likely. I would trust her but not enough to go alone.
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TreeLegs
TreeLegs
30. RE: Trip to Town.
Feb 19 2012, 6:19 PM EST | Post edited: Feb 19 2012, 6:19 PM EST
"Iwouldn't tackle the job alone. No way. Let her join as she does have skills we can use but I draw the line at going that far into unknown territory alone.

I'd need to know our fuel situation."
One of the camp members found a full fuel tanker abandoned on a side road further out in the country and brought it back.
Vehicles at the camp are full.
Your truck has 3/4 of a tank.
SUV has about half a tank with 2 full 5 gallon gas tanks in the back.
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badderthanbond
badderthanbond
31. RE: Trip to Town.
Feb 19 2012, 6:20 PM EST | Post edited: Feb 19 2012, 6:20 PM EST
"Of course I would take her, she has many uses:

1. She is young and strong, so she can work.
2. She has some medical knowledge.
3. If she can lead us to her dead boyfriends stash and or BOL (especially if it's better than ours), that's just gravy.
4. Another young woman to bear children for the future on the group.
5. Because I am not leaving someone alone if they don't want to be. (I may be an a$, but even I will draw a line)!"
I'm sure it isn't how you meant it, but #4 sounds as if she doesn't have much say in the matter. I mean I'm sure her standards wouldn't be too high since there arent that many men left anyway, but it really shouldn't even be a consideration on whether to let her in the group because that makes it sound as if she'd be expected to bear kids as a condition of admission.
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zombie0human156
32. RE: Trip to Town.
Feb 19 2012, 6:36 PM EST | Post edited: Feb 19 2012, 6:37 PM EST
"One of the camp members found a full fuel tanker abandoned on a side road further out in the country and brought it back.
Vehicles at the camp are full.
Your truck has 3/4 of a tank.
SUV has about half a tank with 2 full 5 gallon gas tanks in the back."
take the two 5 gallon and empty the suv gas tank or drive the suv back to base then scrape it or leave there after taking all useable supplys.
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Corbin71
Corbin71
33. RE: Trip to Town.
Feb 19 2012, 7:47 PM EST | Post edited: Feb 19 2012, 7:47 PM EST
"More intel...

Woman:
Around 18-25
5'5"
125lbs

Man 1
Around 25-30
6'2"
210lbs
Shotgun slung on his back.

Man 2
Around 30-35
5'11"
180lbs
Has long barreled, double action revolver in a hip holster on his right side.

She has a slender build with short brunet hair. Looks like she is sporting a black eye on the left side of her face. You notice that Man 1 is restraining her while Man 2 keeps putting her hand near the fence and snatching it away when the zed gets close. They are laughing while she begs them to stop. Occasionally, Man 1 slaps her for not cooperating.

You here Man 1 say as he hits the woman again, that, "There ain't anybody else out here, but me, you and Ted so scream all you want." He grabs her by her hair and points it towards the dumpster. "Ask them. Screaming didn't help them none." Man 1 says before slapping her hard and returning to his amusement. "
Nice SUV. Hopefully loaded.

This wouldn't make sense as an ambush situation since people aren't very heroic before Z-day so, especially with her damaged and the other bodies there, I'd take it as a serious situation.

Shopping runs would require as many able bodies to carry as much as we could so we'd run 4-6 deep and armed with melee and firearms for both short and long range. No stranger to head shots to Zed heads, a couple of sociopaths wouldn't really bug me at that point. Their weapons are more close-ranged soooo BLAM BLAM with rifles at our 50 meter range simultaneously would help out the girl and get us a new ride out of town. We'd take her with us if she seemed stable.

If I were alone, I'd still carry a .22 rifle. Again, BLAM BLAM and maybe have a babe to hang out with... :) Oh yeah, nice SUV.
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Corbin71
Corbin71
34. RE: Trip to Town.
Feb 19 2012, 8:06 PM EST | Post edited: Feb 19 2012, 8:06 PM EST
"Alright, since it seems that a majority of people here would try to neutralize the two men, will pick up the scenario from there."
Alrighty then, pick up the girl to join our squad if I have one and discuss with her if her boyfriend had described his BOL much. If he had, find out more about it. Keep the SUV, snatch up the dead guys valuables, drive both vehicles back and then make plans to check out the boyfriend's place.

She rides up front with my armed pals in back just in case. When she's all washed up, her bruises taken care of, we'll plan a small party to check out that place the next day.
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Corbin71
Corbin71
35. RE: Trip to Town.
Feb 19 2012, 8:13 PM EST | Post edited: Feb 19 2012, 8:13 PM EST
Just to be clear, I'd have wasted those freaks on general principle. Do you find this valuable?    

zombie0human156
36. RE: Trip to Town.
Feb 19 2012, 8:42 PM EST | Post edited: Feb 19 2012, 8:42 PM EST
"Just to be clear, I'd have wasted those freaks on general principle."
I agree with you on that.
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Oakspar77777
Oakspar77777
37. RE: Trip to Town.
Feb 19 2012, 9:06 PM EST | Post edited: Feb 19 2012, 9:06 PM EST
Definately worth wasting them if you are not going to try and recruit them - and that is less drain on the pilliage (which the OP had running dry in the local area).

That said, with most groups, women will be in higher demand that men. If you start collecting women, however, there will come a point in which you will have to bring in more men.

As for going to the BF's BOL, since it is still unknown to any except heard - there is no rush. There is the risk that the house will be raided by super-lucky scavangers, but if that was going to happen, it likely already would have.

Give her a few months in the group and in her new relationship and she should move from using the BOL location as leverage against us to giving us the location to help us (her included) in our future survival.
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Zee-Man
Zee-Man
38. RE: Trip to Town.
Feb 19 2012, 9:35 PM EST | Post edited: Feb 19 2012, 9:35 PM EST
@CarNack and JC : Same views here (except I have more trust for her). She will have to endure our quarantine policy.

After that we will set up a shopping trip to get the goods. Hopefully Jeremy was the kind of survivalist that kept records and maps.

Whether we go to his BOL depends on if it is close and if it is on our own path.
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JunkCollector
JunkCollector
39. RE: Trip to Town.
Feb 19 2012, 9:44 PM EST | Post edited: Feb 19 2012, 9:44 PM EST
"I'm sure it isn't how you meant it, but #4 sounds as if she doesn't have much say in the matter. I mean I'm sure her standards wouldn't be too high since there aren't that many men left anyway, but it really shouldn't even be a consideration on whether to let her in the group because that makes it sound as if she'd be expected to bear kids as a condition of admission."
She wouldn't be a free for all baby HO. But she will have to choose some one in the group eventually, she isn't going outside of the group or she will go with the cloths on her back and the shoes on her feet.

All women who can have kids will have to, there is simply no reason for a group to go on if all of their work is just to extend their own lives. Children are the future, and the only hope that humanity has to live on. If there is no children, why wast time fighting and struggling?
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