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Sharpie41 |
80. RE: The Best General-Purpose Survival Firearm is a Good Handgun.
Feb 22 2012, 5:26 PM EST
"Yup but then again your a big city boy who knows best. "From what I can see.....he does know best, at least compared to you. You are going to steal arms from heavily armed person with a slingshot, you are gonna go to a golf course to find food and water (and beer apparently) so yes, especially next to you, he knows best Do you find this valuable? |
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LWJ2009 |
81. RE: The Best General-Purpose Survival Firearm is a Good Handgun.
Feb 22 2012, 5:41 PM EST
"From what I can see.....he does know best, at least compared to you.Must have beer sharpie. Many meals to be found at a golf course this time of year, or a park. Do you find this valuable? |
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LJ126 |
82. RE: The Best General-Purpose Survival Firearm is a Good Handgun.
Feb 22 2012, 6:16 PM EST
"Yup but then again your a big city boy who knows best. "I'll tell you what I am - I'm a big city boy who knows better than to take a stolen firearm (because that's how you're going to acquire it, right?) into a public golf course to poach a few seasonal migratory birds, and expect to do so without anyone hearing or seeing me do it. If that's the best you can come up with, your definition of "best" is pretty perverted. Do you find this valuable? |
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LWJ2009 |
83. RE: The Best General-Purpose Survival Firearm is a Good Handgun.
Feb 22 2012, 6:31 PM EST
"I'll tell you what I am - I'm a big city boy who knows better than to take a stolen firearm (because that's how you're going to acquire it, right?) into a public golf course to poach a few seasonal migratory birds, and expect to do so without anyone hearing or seeing me do it. If that's the best you can come up with, your definition of "best" is pretty perverted."Stealing is a method to acquire anything, or I could just shoot you and loot you that works to. Although I could think of a few more important things to scrounge up then the odd rifle or pistol. Those birds are food, and as such they are a resource to be used. In a shtf case I am not going to be worried about game and fish giving me a ticket. I am going to take as many as I can and beat feet out. I would have more luck doing that then trying to raid the most obvious places for supplies, where most urban dwellers would go. Do you find this valuable? |
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Sharpie41 |
84. RE: The Best General-Purpose Survival Firearm is a Good Handgun.
Feb 22 2012, 6:42 PM EST
"Stealing is a method to acquire anything, or I could just shoot you and loot you that works to. Although I could think of a few more important things to scrounge up then the odd rifle or pistol. Those birds are food, and as such they are a resource to be used. In a shtf case I am not going to be worried about game and fish giving me a ticket. I am going to take as many as I can and beat feet out. I would have more luck doing that then trying to raid the most obvious places for supplies, where most urban dwellers would go."Yeah....like someone would let you shoot them.....or their family or friends would let you take his stuff. Do you find this valuable? |
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LWJ2009 |
85. RE: The Best General-Purpose Survival Firearm is a Good Handgun.
Feb 22 2012, 6:56 PM EST
"Yeah....like someone would let you shoot them.....or their family or friends would let you take his stuff.Well free will will not stop a round, and you might not have a choice in the matter either. Do you find this valuable? |
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Sharpie41 |
86. RE: The Best General-Purpose Survival Firearm is a Good Handgun.
Feb 22 2012, 7:01 PM EST
"Well free will will not stop a round, and you might not have a choice in the matter either."....well.......good luck.... Do you find this valuable? |
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LJ126 |
87. RE: The Best General-Purpose Survival Firearm is a Good Handgun.
Feb 22 2012, 7:02 PM EST
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Marsden |
88. RE: The Best General-Purpose Survival Firearm is a Good Handgun.
Feb 22 2012, 7:27 PM EST
88 replies in this space of a day. good job LJ.Featured! 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
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LWJ2009 |
89. RE: The Best General-Purpose Survival Firearm is a Good Handgun.
Feb 22 2012, 7:35 PM EST
"88 replies in this space of a day. good job LJ.He does pick some great topics. Now if only he was not same old LJ that I remembered two years ago. Do you find this valuable? |
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timberrattler |
90. RE: The Best General-Purpose Survival Firearm is a Good Handgun.
Feb 22 2012, 7:58 PM EST
How did an urban survival thread turn into a hunting thread? Oh well might as well join in. The best way to get furry critters in the city would be traps. No noise and I can think of lots of ways to gather meat in an urban enviroment. Best of all? Hav-a-Heart traps rock. We used them back when I worked on a game bird farm and they caught skunks, possums, coons, mink, cats and our most amazing catch? A fox and they are very wary of traps. Best bait? Sardeens. Next? Rat traps. Nail it to a tree, add some peanut butter and "bam", a squirrel hanging from a tree. For bodies of water? Fisherman's yo-yo. Set it at night and gather up some fish come morning. Turtle traps for ditches and ponds. Pigeon traps will catch all kinds of winged food. Gig frogs at night. Sorry LJ I know these are midwest methods. I have no idea what a Texan would do. I live in a river valley. The nearest "big" city to me sits on a river. Still on board with a handgun in a city. Just makes sense to me. Still admiting that I'm painfully ignorant of urban areas. Do you find this valuable? |
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LWJ2009 |
91. RE: The Best General-Purpose Survival Firearm is a Good Handgun.
Feb 22 2012, 8:22 PM EST
"How did an urban survival thread turn into a hunting thread?The redneck is back Timber. Although I am pretty damn unconvinced I am going to trap the Goose Birds. Do you find this valuable? |
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TreeLegs |
92. RE: The Best General-Purpose Survival Firearm is a Good Handgun.
Feb 22 2012, 8:34 PM EST
"He does pick some great topics. Now if only he was not same old LJ that I remembered two years ago."Why? Seems like a good enough guy to me. I grew up in the country where you might not see a cop come down your road for weeks at a time. I've lived in cities where gangs kept the crime down more than the cops. I've been deployed to towns where I was the police. Each place has it's own set of rules and social norms that don't always blend very well and being able to adapt and be open minded was sometimes the difference between life and death. I've been to places where the high was 140F and others where the high that day was 14F. I've seen the best and worst of nature and the humans that inhabit them. I've studied both the art of war and peace and have practiced both to the best of my ability. I've been armed to the teeth and have had nothing but my wits and my hands to survive. I don't know you sir, but what I do know is that your obstinance in accepting that someone could be successfull not using your methods is dangerously close minded . You do what you feel is best for you in your situation, but what makes you an authority on it that you could basically call the man stupid or anyone for that matter? You may differ on what you both think is best, but that gives you know right to start insulting another's opinion. Totally agree with TR about his urban trapping scheme. Living in the south, there are too many critters wandering around that wouldn't make a good meal and I'm not trying to ring the dinner bell for every other starving survivor around. 2 out of 2 found this valuable. Do you? |
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LWJ2009 |
93. RE: The Best General-Purpose Survival Firearm is a Good Handgun.
Feb 22 2012, 8:54 PM EST
"Why? Seems like a good enough guy to me.Your reading into things a bit to much Hoss. Although when I say he was the same old LJ from two years ago that would be correct. Minus a few other changes that are a bit different to say the least. You can save the bio for your profile though. 0 out of 5 found this valuable. Do you? |
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timberrattler |
94. RE: The Best General-Purpose Survival Firearm is a Good Handgun.
Feb 22 2012, 9:07 PM EST
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"The redneck is back Timber. Although I am pretty damn unconvinced I am going to trap the Goose Birds. "Trapping geese would be easy. Take a big pet taxi (plastic and wire carry kennel), loose the door, run a metal rod across the top and hang some dow rods on the inside of the door. So you can push them in but they'll catch on the inside and you can't push back out. Spread some grain around the door and inside the kennel and Mr. Goose will push his way past the dows to get to the grain and when he's all the way inside he'll panic and not be able to get back out past the dows. Just a bigger version of a sparrow trap. Hang around and stop acting a fool and I'll teach ya somethin'. LOL. Welcome back LWJ2009. Good to see you posting again. Do you find this valuable? |
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redcomrad |
95. RE: The Best General-Purpose Survival Firearm is a Good Handgun.
Feb 22 2012, 9:08 PM EST
"However, I'd rather my hypothetical adversary underestimate my ability to fight back than get it right, as they might believe me a lower risk than I actually am. If that's the case, I might have a fighting chance.The element of surprise is always good to have, but i always heard "it is better to prevent than to cure." I would rather have most people not want to fight me than being engaged by every bandit thinking I'm a weakling, and having to fight and most importantly waste ammo all the time having the enemy think I'm easy pickings. Do you find this valuable? |
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LWJ2009 |
96. RE: The Best General-Purpose Survival Firearm is a Good Handgun.
Feb 22 2012, 9:21 PM EST
"Trapping geese would be easy.Things are a wee bit different to say the least. So DN still around or did he take a vacation as well? Gotta come back and stir up the pot a bit Timber and spice it up a bit. Been lurking for about a month and its a bit boring. Although for geese in a heart beat I will just take the pump .22 and gun a good half dozen down. Grain is going to be a bit of a hard find and corn might be as well. Besides the .22 is cheap and I have a few trillion of those rounds in the basement. Do you find this valuable? |
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TreeLegs |
97. RE: The Best General-Purpose Survival Firearm is a Good Handgun.
Feb 22 2012, 10:05 PM EST
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"Your reading into things a bit to much Hoss. Although when I say he was the same old LJ from two years ago that would be correct. Minus a few other changes that are a bit different to say the least. You can save the bio for your profile though.Think I figured out the issue here. Wyoming: Population Ranked 50th in the U.S. - Total 568,158 (2011 estimate) - Density 5.85/sq mi (2.26/km2) Ranked 49th in the U.S. City of Cheyenne 59,466 South Carolina: Population Ranked 24th in the U.S. - Total 4,679,230 (2011 est) - Density 155/sq mi (60.0/km2) Ranked 19th in the U.S. City of Columbia 129,272 And that's not including demographics... Given our difference in what is considered urban, I see why you've been commenting the way you have. The "bio" was to show that I have multiple experiences that I draw from concerning the situation. As far as your, "Yup but then again your a big city boy who knows best. " comment, you speak as if you've never left the farm. 3 out of 3 found this valuable. Do you? |
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shadowmancer |
98. RE: The Best General-Purpose Survival Firearm is a Good Handgun.
Feb 22 2012, 10:34 PM EST
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pfff forget about those .22's lets use an oldshcool 2 bore for those pesky geese :D lol i thought i'd mention the worst possible survival weapon since no one could agree on the best lol an elephant gun! kicks like a mule on steroids and is as loud as a cannon lol slow to load, may break your arms and did i mention loud as a cannon! and the damn thing is huge.
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LWJ2009 |
99. RE: The Best General-Purpose Survival Firearm is a Good Handgun.
Feb 22 2012, 11:01 PM EST
"Thing I figured out the issue here.Seen quite a bit of the world as well Treelegs, I just don't advertise it like a resume. Your best weapon in an urban environment would be the carbine, a pistol is a defensive tool. If your in a postion to use it, your also in a position to beat feet. Given a three point sling you can haul a carbine anywhere and it offers the best compramise in firepower and portability. While leaving your hands free to get things done. A pistol is easeir to conceal depending on the size and where you have it on your body. However you also have to be able to draw it quickly and fire it accruately in a stress shoot situation. If your wearing bulky clothing or a leg or thigh holster you have also given yourself away for no gain to yourself. So you would also know that Wyoming is one of the top states for gun ownership. A pistol is not going to cut it here if things go south. Predators try to pick on those that they deem a soft easy target and LE is not going to save my butt. Sometimes a show of force is the best way to keep the undesirables at bay. Do you find this valuable? |