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Survivor15 |
Single shot shotgun
Mar 7 2012, 11:56 PM EST
I am looking to buy my next gun at the end of this month. I want to get a single shot 12ga shotgun, but I have no previous experience with single shot brands. I also want a general idea on price, as I would not like to spend more than 100-150 dollars. I don't mind buying used. I plan to cut the barrel down to 18 or 20 inches so I can take the barrel off and store the gun compact in my BOB. Any advice on make? Model? Anything of that nature? Thanks.
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JunkCollector |
1. RE: Single shot shotgun
Mar 8 2012, 12:35 AM EST
Here is a great choice, for a little more money.Rossi Triple Play Single-Shot Youth Shotgun Exclusive 3-barrel combo set Comes with .410, 22 LR, and .243 Win barrels Black synthetic stock Blued barrel and receiver Our Price $299.99 Here's one in your price range: Rossi single shot shotgun, in .410, 20 gauge, or 12 gauge; for $120 Single shots are good simple guns to use, with the one draw back of having to be reloaded with every shot. I still hunt with a Sears single shot bolt action 20 gauge, and haven't found a more trustworthy shooter. 8 out of 9 found this valuable. Do you? |
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thomas13mike |
2. RE: Single shot shotgun
Mar 8 2012, 1:19 AM EST
"I am looking to buy my next gun at the end of this month. I want to get a single shot 12ga shotgun, but I have no previous experience with single shot brands. I also want a general idea on price, as I would not like to spend more than 100-150 dollars. I don't mind buying used. I plan to cut the barrel down to 18 or 20 inches so I can take the barrel off and store the gun compact in my BOB. Any advice on make? Model? Anything of that nature? Thanks."Take a look at H&R or New England firearms they're basically one in the same. But you can get them in. 410,20ga and 12ga. I picked up a 20ga in a pawn shop for 50 bucks. And brand new they're maybe $100-125 13 out of 15 found this valuable. Do you? |
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Filadog |
3. RE: Single shot shotgun
Mar 8 2012, 7:14 AM EST
I have bought many single shot shotguns over the years and it is pretty easy to get a nice one for under $50. While back I got an about new H&R for $15 only problem was that the trigger guard was broken but I had a stocked reciever of one that I got in a box lot of gun parts for cheap and just switched them out no trouble.When you look at a used one of these make sure that it closesup tight with no movement. I had a loose one befor that when you shot it would open up on you. not what you want I also like ones that have an automatic ejector which kicks the empty out when you break the gun open. This makes for much faster reloads.If you have a shell cuff on the stock with practice you can reload one faster then many would tink I you want the gun for general use and not just look neato I would recomend you leave the barrel as it is because once you cut off the choke you really limit the shotgun effectiveness as a hunting and general purpose gun These guns can be a little hard to put a sling on but you can get a swivel that mounts on the barrel I'm not going to be stupid and say that a single shot is as "good" as a pump or auto but in most cases you need a shotgun for it is probably good enough. And something is to be said for its simple design. Since you can get them so cheap I think everybody should have at least one 7 out of 9 found this valuable. Do you? |
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OutlawJames |
4. RE: Single shot shotgun
Mar 8 2012, 6:24 PM EST
"I have bought many single shot shotguns over the years and it is pretty easy to get a nice one for under $50. While back I got an about new H&R for $15 only problem was that the trigger guard was broken but I had a stocked reciever of one that I got in a box lot of gun parts for cheap and just switched them out no trouble.What Filadog said. One other thing, because most singles are lighter than doubles or pumps or autos, the felt recoil is higher for a given gauge. (evrey action has an equal and opposite reaction) But its not something that you will be banging away hundreds of rounds at a time with, so shouldnt matter much. But on the plus side they are lighter so less weight to carry in the bob. 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
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CDSm101-800s |
5. RE: Single shot shotgun
Mar 8 2012, 7:57 PM EST
I agree that a single shot will tend to kick alot more due to the light weight of the weapon. Heck a friend I knew years ago had one that kicked worse than his double barrel shotgun when you fired both barrels at once. I can only imagine what magnum loads must be like. Which brings up a good question. Can you fire magnum loads in one? His seemed rather flimsy, but again it was years ago...Still, with practice, you can load and fire off rounds quite quickly. Easy to get in 4-5 shots in on target within 15 seconds. Some of the single shots I seen actually break down into 2 pieces for easy storage and cleaning. This would remove the problem with cutting down the barrel and avoid any nasty legal issues. 1 out of 2 found this valuable. Do you? |
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Sharpie41 |
6. RE: Single shot shotgun
Mar 8 2012, 11:02 PM EST
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My first shotgun was a Cooey 840 20 ga, I got pretty quick reloading, although I honestly think an arm cuff on the support hand would be faster (putting a butt cuff on your support arm instead of the button stock)
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thomas13mike |
7. RE: Single shot shotgun
Mar 8 2012, 11:51 PM EST
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@CDS Yeah it says 3" on the barrel but just because it was supposedly designed to handle doesn't make smart does it?@TreeLegs 0 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
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CDSm101-800s |
8. RE: Single shot shotgun
Mar 9 2012, 12:13 AM EST
"Well you can use 3'" shells in the H&Rs that I have that doesn't mean I would want to even try it LOLlol yeah I imagine they would fit in, but it does not make it a good idea. I have never tried anything like that. Would hate to be picking barrel pieces out of my face on Z-day... 0 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
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Survivor15 |
9. RE: Single shot shotgun
Mar 9 2012, 12:14 AM EST
"I agree that a single shot will tend to kick alot more due to the light weight of the weapon. Heck a friend I knew years ago had one that kicked worse than his double barrel shotgun when you fired both barrels at once. I can only imagine what magnum loads must be like. Which brings up a good question. Can you fire magnum loads in one? His seemed rather flimsy, but again it was years ago...The gun I am looking to buy would need to break down as you said. I'll be keeping it in a confined space. There would be no legal issues, even in California where I live, so long as the barrel is longer than 18" and the overall length is more than 26". I'm not so worried about the kick, or long range accuracy with game loads. I know that 50 yards is no big deal with a slug even with an 18" barrel. 1 out of 2 found this valuable. Do you? |
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kweschin |
10. RE: Single shot shotgun
Mar 9 2012, 12:51 AM EST
I happen to think that its a great idea to cut down a single shot shotgun for a BOB. I actually picked up a H&R Pardner 12ga. and Im planning on doing some modification similar to what your saying around May of this year. I prepare taxes for a living, so I cant really do it any sooner. Anyways, you should post up pictures of the shotgun and the modifications that you are going to do to it as I plan on doing. It will be interesting to compare. 2 out of 3 found this valuable. Do you? |
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TreeLegs |
11. RE: Single shot shotgun
Mar 9 2012, 1:59 AM EST
My cousin took a New England single 12, cut the barrel down to 19 inches, re-blued it and attached a heat shield with buit on ghost ring sites. We used some 00 Buck with no issues and the recoil wasn't as bad as we thought it would be. If you were looking for something quick for close in work, I totally recomend it. Would say get you a shell with more pellets though.
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thomas13mike |
12. RE: Single shot shotgun
Mar 9 2012, 2:41 AM EST
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"My cousin took a New England single 12, cut the barrel down to 19 inches, re-blued it and attached a heat shield with buit on ghost ring sites. We used some 00 Buck with no issues and the recoil wasn't as bad as we thought it would be. If you were looking for something quick for close in work, I totally recomend it. Would say get you a shell with more pellets though."@CDS Yeah it does say 3" chamber on the barrel but you're right even if it was supposedly designed to handle it still doesn't make it smart does it? @TreeLegs Now you're making me want to try it they're so cheap it would be a fun experiment. I had a buddy who sawed downed the barrel on a 500 and then rethreaded it for a choke. Works pretty good for varmints when you're rolling down the trail in a mule. But you're right you need more lead coming out when you chop one down. I'd probably go with #4 buck lose a little in pellet size but you go from 9 to 27 pellets. 0 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
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thomas13mike |
13. RE: Single shot shotgun
Mar 9 2012, 2:42 AM EST
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"My cousin took a New England single 12, cut the barrel down to 19 inches, re-blued it and attached a heat shield with buit on ghost ring sites. We used some 00 Buck with no issues and the recoil wasn't as bad as we thought it would be. If you were looking for something quick for close in work, I totally recomend it. Would say get you a shell with more pellets though."Oops double tap please delete... 0 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
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Filadog |
14. RE: Single shot shotgun
Mar 9 2012, 6:49 AM EST
A modern single shot shotgun from a maker like H&R or New England is a very stong gun and if it has a 3 inch chamber I think it is probably as safe to shoot as any other action shotgun. I think H&R even makes one that takes 3 1/2 inch shellsThese magnum single shots are popular with Turkey and geese hunters who don't want to pay a bunch for a gun I suppose I used to have an old 10 ga. single shot that I've shot a fewgeese with, A good recoil pad helps a lot and I know some people put lead in the stock to make the gun heavier Many years ago lots of cheap single shotguns were made and these could give you trouble, I've seen them so loose you could see daylight in the breech and would rattle when you shook them. Some have damasscus barrels too. Not all single shot shotguns were cheap guns, I used to have a beautiful little English 28 ga. 3 out of 4 found this valuable. Do you? |
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CDSm101-800s |
15. RE: Single shot shotgun
Mar 9 2012, 2:05 PM EST
"A modern single shot shotgun from a maker like H&R or New England is a very stong gun and if it has a 3 inch chamber I think it is probably as safe to shoot as any other action shotgun. I think H&R even makes one that takes 3 1/2 inch shellsHmmmm that could explain why his shotgun looked flimsy.... Recoil is not really a problem if your expecting it and know how to hold the weapon properly. I agree with using recoil pads if your expecting to do a lot of shooting. The little extra weight is well worth the convience. 0 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
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OutlawJames |
16. RE: Single shot shotgun
Mar 9 2012, 3:11 PM EST
"@TreeLegs Now you're making me want to try it they're so cheap it would be a fun experiment. I had a buddy who sawed downed the barrel on a 500 and then rethreaded it for a choke. Works pretty good for varmints when you're rolling down the trail in a mule. But you're right you need more lead coming out when you chop one down. I'd probably go with #4 buck lose a little in pellet size but you go from 9 to 27 pellets."You know I was just thinking...as we all know post Zed or other Apoc, those barrels are going to get hacked even shorter. Eventually what you are then holding is a blunderbus. This should pretty much scrap any pretense of patterning like Filadog said. So I was thinking of going to smaller shot to get more out there, but your pattern could be pretty sparse with smaller shot not carrying the desired punch.. So I was thinking (yep I do that once in awhile) ( going to try this myself next time I reload Shells) Using a duplex load of say 6 , 00 buck backed by #4 buck for the balance of the fill. This should give you some descent pattern density still while retaining some hard hitters. Filadog What is your opinion on this? 1 out of 3 found this valuable. Do you? |
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Sharpie41 |
17. RE: Single shot shotgun
Mar 9 2012, 3:20 PM EST
"You know I was just thinking...as we all know post Zed or other Apoc, those barrels are going to get hacked even shorter. Eventually what you are then holding is a blunderbus. This should pretty much scrap any pretense of patterning like Filadog said.Seems like a solid idea, let us know how it turns out 0 out of 2 found this valuable. Do you? |
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timberrattler |
18. RE: Single shot shotgun
Mar 9 2012, 10:33 PM EST
http://www.atigunstocksusa.com/hr/hrn4100stockset.htmFor about $50 you can turn your H&R/NEF single shot .410 into this rockin', badas$, beautifully tacky tactical shotgun. I just never knew you needed a heat shield for a single-shot shotgun. Some folks are quicker on reloads than others I guess. 1 out of 4 found this valuable. Do you? |
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Sharpie41 |
19. RE: Single shot shotgun
Mar 10 2012, 12:16 AM EST
"http://www.atigunstocksusa.com/hr/hrn4100stockset.htmAfter a day of shooting my Cooey the barrel gets hot to the touch, I wouldn't put one on but it might be a good idea 1 out of 3 found this valuable. Do you? |