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Survivor15 |
40. RE: Single shot shotgun
Mar 29 2012, 5:00 PM EDT
"Yes cuting down the barrel you will not have the range it had. I cut mine down for close ranges,like house to house. Shure it dosent have as good of a pattern as it did. Shooting slugs they drop alot now, but the ranges it's made for it works great. Buck shot works great also,I would not want someone chasing me with it. check my profile there is a pic of my 12 ga h&r "That's exactly what I'm looking for =) 1 out of 2 found this valuable. Do you? |
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41. RE: Single shot shotgun
Mar 30 2012, 1:09 PM EDT
Survivor15 I like the idea of threading the barrel for a screw on choke,cool.
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Boonierat |
42. RE: Single shot shotgun
Mar 30 2012, 3:12 PM EDT
This just came to me,a single shot makes a good Melee Weapon after you run out of ammo. Just take off the Barrel,and start swining.
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Survivor15 |
43. RE: Single shot shotgun
Apr 20 2012, 8:27 PM EDT
I just purchased an H&R Model 88 Topper for $80. I can pick it up in 10 days.Thanks everyone for the advice. I'll post pictures when I get it. 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
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44. RE: Single shot shotgun
Apr 24 2012, 7:06 AM EDT
Congrats and good luck and shooting with the new gun.Cant wait to see the pics Do you find this valuable? |
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45. RE: Single shot shotgun
Apr 27 2012, 12:56 AM EDT
Ahh, the wait is killing me. For once, I want Monday to come!!!
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Survivor15 |
46. RE: Single shot shotgun
Apr 30 2012, 10:11 PM EDT
Just picked it up. Love It!!! I immediately added a shell holder to the stock, and I figured out that I can put 6 mini buckshots in the stock. The gun is essentially the same as Boonierat has on his profile, except for a longer barrel. I'll post pix as soon as I find that darned SD card plugin...
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GunKata |
47. RE: Single shot shotgun
May 9 2012, 5:05 AM EDT
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"I would like to add that a cylinder bore barrel, is a cylinder bore barrel whether it is 10" or 24". Patterning will be about the same. The differences observed in pattern will be because of the difference in velocity. "Magnum" loads seem to spread patterns more, thats why I only run bargain game loads. I successfully hunt with all cylinder bore barrels. I do not like a choked gun. If I am hunting squirrel I do not need a pattern small as my fist. Same goes for birds. I need some spread for margin of error in case I lead too much.Also; Blunderbuss had the horn shaped barrel for easier loading from horseback. It still functions just like any other .69 or .72 and it doesnt open the pattern any. Think of it as the equivalent as soldering a soup can on the end of your shotgun. "Yes, cutting down the barrel length does not create a "blunderbuss," only a shorter cylinder bore. However, the funnelled muzzle of the 'buss does spread the shot pattern dramatically. This is because the force of the expanding gasses that are accelerating the shot column will spread the column out to fill the increasing diameter of the barrel, becoming more of a shot cone. The more the bell of the muzzle flares, the more dramatically the shot pattern will spread. You could even cover most a wall from across a room with a wide enough bell and enough pellets. Also, I have found #4 Buckshot to give a very good compromise between good pattern density and retained energy per pellet. It is especially good for those whose accuracy may not be the best or who are new to firearms. For home defense, the pellets do not over-penetrate as much as larger shot, except at close range. However, for any indoor shooting in my home, birdshot is safest -- the pattern doesn't have the distance to open much and any stray pellets have much less energy to harm bystanders (and they don't carry through walls with much destructive power). Do you find this valuable? |
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48. RE: Single shot shotgun
May 9 2012, 5:30 AM EDT
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The H&R Survivor®(http://www.hr1871.com/Firearms/ShotgunsAndRifles/survivor.asp) is an excellent choice. "The high-density polymer stock has a thumbhole/pistol-grip design and a convenient storage compartment. The heavy 22" bull-barrel versions in 223 Rem. and 308 Win. are offered in low-profile matte blue. Our Transfer Bar System provides an added measure of safety. Standard shotguns have a modified choke."I would purchase either the .223 or .45 Long Colt / .410 version and pick up a 12 Gauge barrel. That way you have a rifle and a shotgun for very few more pounds. The .45 rifled barrel version has a screw-in choke for shotgun use and is available in electroless nickel for corrosion resistance (HIGHLY Recommended) and, by just switching ammo, you have shot or bullet available. There have been a lot of new .410 rounds introduced due to the popularity of revolvers chambered for the cartridge -- mixed shot loads, triple- and quad- ball new slug loads, etc. You may find that you only need the one barrel since the .45 should be good for up to 150 yards, or so, depending on ammo. Note that the rifling will impart centrifugal force to shot loads that will open the pattern fairly quickly, which may be good at close range, buy may leave a hole in the middle at longer distances (the screw-in choke will help).Survivor15: I know that you are happy with your purchase, but my remarks are for the wider audience and some of what I've posted will still be of value for you. Remember that you should use a carpenter's square and a file to return a shortened barrel's muzzle to it's original appearance and that a shortened rifle barrel should be re-crowned on a lathe to recover lost accuracy. Do you find this valuable? |
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GunKata |
49. RE: Single shot shotgun
May 9 2012, 5:41 AM EDT
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And the H&R has barrels available in a wide variety of cartridges, from .22 rimfire (ALWAYS have at least one .22 in your collection as a pocketful of ammo could last for weeks) to 10 Gauge, including the most popular rifle and rimmed pistol calibers. For true SHTF, an array of barrels to utilize any ammo you might scrounge or trade for is an unbeatable insurance policy. You can keep your eyes open for new calibers at good prices and build up a good survival battery over time, and picking up a couple more stocked receivers is also a good idea. Look for barrels with 'scope mounts and get good rugged telescopic sight(s) -- 4X fixed and 3-9X are good choices and widely available used. Just be sure that any scope is in good enough shape to hold its zero even when harshly handled or dropped. Illuminated reticles and red dot sights are great, but batteries will become currency for trade and will eventually become unavailable or unchargeable (who would want non-rechargeables when it is so easy to make a human-powered charging device?). Look for passively illuminated sights.
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GunKata |
50. RE: Single shot shotgun
May 9 2012, 5:55 AM EDT
NOTE: BATFE Requires a long arm to be no less than 26" in overall length with a barrel of at least 16" from breachface to muzzle crown (rifled) and 18" for smoothbores. Violation may bring penalties of 10 years and $10,000 -- so add 1/2" to barrels as insurance.
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Filadog |
51. RE: Single shot shotgun
May 9 2012, 7:50 AM EDT
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"However, the funnelled muzzle of the 'buss does spread the shot pattern dramatically. This is because the force of the expanding gasses that are accelerating the shot column will spread the column out to fill the increasing diameter of the barrel, becoming more of a shot cone. The more the bell of the muzzle flares, the more dramatically the shot pattern will spread. "Maybe a common belief amoung people not to knowledgable about guns but a flared muzzle actually spreading the shot like this is simply not true I don't know about your experance with actually shooting a Blunderbus is but I own an original 18th century one [with a neato flip bayonet!] and have had a nice repo one befor and have shot both more then a little. I've patternd both and in actualy firing even though they have a flared muzzle they do not shoot a larger pattern then a regular smooth bore gun. By the time the shot leaves the bore the expanded muzzle of course has no effect on it Besides the psychological effect of a huge muzzle it's real advantage is that it makes the gun easier and faster to load. Many of these guns were intended to be used on a coach or ship that might be moving at the time they were being reloaded making it harder to pour the load down the barrel and the flared muzzle acts like a funnel ...Ever wonder why you have never seen a cartridge shotgun with a blunderbus flared muzzle? Now you know. I have seen spreader chokes for the old Cutts Compersaters where they are supposed to spread the shot charge out horizontly by compressing the vertical spread but probably only worked to sell them to the old time armchair commandos Blunderbuses were also never loaded with old nails, bolts scrap iron like you see in the cartoons either because good chance it would get stuck in the bore.The use of Swan shot which were sort of tear drop shaped shot was popular and these will open up the pattern over round shot 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
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Filadog |
52. RE: Single shot shotgun
May 9 2012, 7:55 AM EDT
I picked up a real nice Iver Johnson Cycle Works .410 single shot last weekend at the flea market. Had to pay $75 which is pretty high for a single shot but is in great condition with 100% blueing and .410s usually are worth more in something like that.
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11ACRBlackhorse |
53. RE: Single shot shotgun
May 9 2012, 9:44 AM EDT
"I picked up a real nice Iver Johnson Cycle Works .410 single shot last weekend at the flea market. Had to pay $75 which is pretty high for a single shot but is in great condition with 100% blueing and .410s usually are worth more in something like that."Good pick around here any 410 single goes for a minimum of $80 for well wore and abused specimens. Ive seen ones like yours go at $130. But this is hunt everything with a shotgun country. So they are used by kids for deer, rabbit, squirrel, and turkey mostly. (I know almost everything lol) Now what you think a Marlin Goose bolt action 12 gauge is worth. I can get it for $100. Stock and finish is "Good-Great" Works perfect with all parts still intact. I'm not a shotgun person per say but it's a tempting gun. Do you find this valuable? |
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54. RE: Single shot shotgun
May 9 2012, 11:28 PM EDT
"I think these Marlin Goose guns go for a little bit of a premium and a $100 is probably not a bad price. Around here there is / was a lot of goose hunting and they were popular with some who thought they "hit" harder with that extra long 36 inch barrel . I don't believe that though maybe might help with your swing on high flyers Last year I saw a guy with a real nice one at the flea market priced at $125, I was thinking $75 but he wouldn't go. I stopped back later and he had sold it, told me he got $125 but I bet it was less A pretty specialised shotgun that would be a poor choice for most other shotgun shooting . I think was popular with some turkey hunters too I have an old 20 ga. bolt shotgun I cut back to be a riot gun, I want to get a 12 ga. one next and think it would be fun to do it up Do you find this valuable? |
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55. RE: Single shot shotgun
May 10 2012, 3:44 AM EDT
" I think these Marlin Goose guns go for a little bit of a premium and a $100 is probably not a bad price.Thanks and I was thinking of cutting it down to around 20" or so but that's not a given. But thanks again you just proved what I was thinking Do you find this valuable? |
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56. RE: Single shot shotgun
Nov 15 2012, 3:00 PM EST
Why is it that , when someone gives specific parameters for their query , some asshead has to go all off the mark just to , basically , hear his own voice ? He said $100-$150 , dumbass !
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57. RE: Single shot shotgun
Nov 15 2012, 3:07 PM EST
"Why is it that , when someone gives specific parameters for their query , some asshead has to go all off the mark just to , basically , hear his own voice ? He said $100-$150 , dumbass !"Try again cbuz. You've been a member for about 10 minutes. Maybe try introducing yourself first before flinging insults. Do you find this valuable? |
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11ACRBlackhorse |
59. RE: Single shot shotgun
Nov 15 2012, 4:34 PM EST
Cbuz10Welcome aboard and glad you added your opinion. Just leave the dum@@ss part out next time. Hope to see more of your contributions soon. Do you find this valuable? |
