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nightstalkerz555	Zombie killing home defense plan Mar 14 2012, 12:44 PM EDT My plan for home defense against is to go up on the roof tops of my home with a ruger 10/22 (.22lr), a walther p22 .22lr sidearm(back up weapon), and snipe out zombies from about 100-150 yards, and best of all both guns have shared ammo which is an advantage. Now the .22lr is a weak cartridge, but if you aim for the sweet spot on the base of the skull, the .22lr will do the job on some zombies. This is just for staying home, I don't have a plan yet for fleeing, because i have ammo to last me years, and there's no need for that fleeing plan right now. Post reply 1 out of 2 found this valuable. Do you find this valuable? Do you? Keyword tags: None
OutlawJames	1. RE: Zombie killing home defense plan Mar 14 2012, 1:06 PM EDT \| Post edited: Mar 14 2012, 1:18 PM EDT Okay, so lets see, you have lots of ammo. Three days after SHTF the infrastructure collapses, Your power goes out, your water stops, and natural gas stops, You now have no water, no heat, no refrigeration, no light, no waste disposal( sewage) Plus you have no food stockpiled no water stockpiled, no medicine.....and on and on... Good thing you have enough .22lr to last you for years. Post reply 1 out of 2 found this valuable. Do you find this valuable? Do you?
=jesse=	2. RE: Zombie killing home defense plan Mar 14 2012, 1:09 PM EDT You know, I used to think about doing this too, but I would run out of ammo. I have roughly 2000 rounds of ammo, give or take a hundred. I live in Littleton, CO and the population is roughly 42000 here. If 90% of them are infected, thats 37800. So if I use 1 rd per zed, there are 35800 left. I have to hope that the remaining 4200 survivors can do it. I guess its feasible, it comes out to 8 or 9 rounds each, assuming all of us only land head shots. Post reply Do you find this valuable?
=jesse=	3. RE: Zombie killing home defense plan Mar 14 2012, 1:13 PM EDT This is also on the assumption I use all my ammo, food, and water and that once they're depleted, there will be some kind of rescue. Otherwise, as Outlaw put it, you burn through the ammo, food, water, and anything else you have....then you're sitting on the roof s.o.l. Post reply Do you find this valuable?
SovietPrince	4. RE: Zombie killing home defense plan Mar 14 2012, 3:08 PM EDT nightstalkerz555, i once had the same plan. Although, it would only be implemented if the ground floor had been compromised. The gentlemen above, espcially Sarcastic OutlawJAmes, are right. Remember this rule: 3minutes without air 3days without water 3weeks without food and you'll die. estimate 1 gallon per day minimum. ration your food wisely. idk your age, nor should you disclose it, but you need to know about the fat and calorie content, because that will keep you alive. The addition of some protein and sugar in your diet is also wanted. Check out multivitamins. One a day should be a nice buffer for your immune system, because there arent many doctors in SHTF, and if you want to play rooftop warrior, you're gonna be out in the heat, or out in the cold. Shelter on top of your roof is a must. extreme sunburns are no joke. But its a very umm... hopeless standpoint. Like i said, it was my last stand idea. you should have some sort of radio communications as well, because hopefully, it WOULDN'T be your last stand. But you gotta know how to play with all these gadgets, and work this setup. Its nice to see the initiative that you'll have two .22 caliber weapons and you'll be doing this or that, but trust me, its a last stand deal. until plumbing goes out, you really don't have to worry about leaving your home. Or shouldn't. Unless its a highly populated area. Post reply Do you find this valuable?
TreeLegs	5. RE: Zombie killing home defense plan Mar 14 2012, 4:07 PM EDT Um...how are you going to get them to turn around so you can shoot them in said sweet spot and 100yd hit with a .22 in something the size of a quarter is something I'd pay to see. I mean I'm pretty good, but I don't even think I could pull that one off. Still, I think the killing potential would be near non existant at that range for a Zed. If you told me you had a rifle in a .30, I could see this happening. Post reply Do you find this valuable?
nightstalkerz555	6. RE: Zombie killing home defense plan Mar 14 2012, 4:08 PM EDT \| Post edited: Mar 14 2012, 4:12 PM EDT "Okay, so lets see, you have lots of ammo. Three days after SHTF the infrastructure collapses, Your power goes out, your water stops, and natural gas stops, You now have no water, no heat, no refrigeration, no light, no waste disposal( sewage) Plus you have no food stockpiled no water stockpiled, no medicine.....and on and on... Good thing you have enough .22lr to last you for years." I have tons of food & water, I even have a full face respirator, with 36 filters for it currently. I also have a medicine cabinet full of pain killers, bandages, all that first aid stuff, but to be honest i just thought alot of that stuff you mentioned wasn't really worth mentioning, mainly because, knowing these things i figured everyone would know that these are what you deffinitely have no matter what. I also have a ton of things that make good zombie melee weapons, including a machete, knives, crowbars, tire irons, and other than those two guns mentioned before, I also have a mossberg 500 12 gauge shotgun for blowing off those zombie heads. Post reply 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you find this valuable? Do you?
nightstalkerz555	7. RE: Zombie killing home defense plan Mar 14 2012, 4:15 PM EDT then use the range you're comfortable with. Post reply 0 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you find this valuable? Do you?
=jesse=	8. RE: Zombie killing home defense plan Mar 14 2012, 4:18 PM EDT "I have tons of food & water, I even have a full face respirator, with 36 filters for it currently. I also have a medicine cabinet full of pain killers, bandages, all that first aid stuff, but to be honest i just thought alot of that stuff you mentioned wasn't really worth mentioning, mainly because, knowing these things i figured everyone would know that these are what you deffinitely have no matter what. I also have a ton of things that make good zombie melee weapons, including a machete, knives, crowbars, tire irons, and other than those two guns mentioned before, I also have a mossberg 500 12 gauge shotgun for blowing off those zombie heads." Hey man, we can't assume anything. If anything, it would be valuable to have a plan to flee for something simple like a fire. One could spark up for any number of reasons. If you do need to bug out it'd be good to have something planned. They spread fast too. A few years ago my in-laws had a terrible house fire. Luckily they all got out, but their whole house was engulfed in a matter of minutes. Post reply 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you find this valuable? Do you?
nightstalkerz555	9. RE: Zombie killing home defense plan Mar 14 2012, 4:29 PM EDT \| Post edited: Mar 14 2012, 4:51 PM EDT Well, if i do leave, all I have planned is I will take my backpack filled with clothes,matches, hand sanitizer, firesteel, swiss army knife, medical kit, insect repellant,camoflauge, and other than the pack, I will take a crossbow(which i failed to mention about), with 20 bolts(because crossbow bolts can be used again, and the walther p22 and tons of ammo/mags for it, plus, I will bring a machete and my Ruko knife,and the full face respirator, and go camp out in the woods next to where i live and there I can use my camoflauge to my advantage. Post reply Do you find this valuable?
Braydonn	10. RE: Zombie killing home defense plan Mar 14 2012, 5:19 PM EDT \| Post edited: Mar 14 2012, 5:22 PM EDT "Well, if i do leave, all I have planned is I will take my backpack filled with clothes,matches, hand sanitizer, firesteel, swiss army knife, medical kit, insect repellant,camoflauge, and other than the pack, I will take a crossbow(which i failed to mention about), with 20 bolts(because crossbow bolts can be used again, and the walther p22 and tons of ammo/mags for it, plus, I will bring a machete and my Ruko knife,and the full face respirator, and go camp out in the woods next to where i live and there I can use my camoflauge to my advantage." Have you tried putting on your bag and trying to carry all this stuff, it's a lot easier to think about it, than to do it. Try and pack your bag full of your things and carry it to this location you are going to. Is there a fresh water source? Are there many animals to hunt/trap? Also are you bringing any food or water with you? I think you should take a look at some of the pages on bug out bags and get to thinking about adding some items to your bag. Post reply Do you find this valuable?
Zee-Man	11. RE: Zombie killing home defense plan Mar 14 2012, 5:24 PM EDT "I have tons of food & water...." All of those things are much more critical than having ammo to sit sniper on the rooftop. Having an escape plan is likewise critical. Jesse points out how overwhelming the numbers can be. I am interested in specifics. Tons of water? so 2 tons. Something like 500 gallons of water. How do you store it? Have you taken any measures to ensure it doe not go stagnant? Do you rotate it? 4000 pounds of food? Really? OK, so you are talking figuratively. How much actually to feed how many people? For how long? Why do you think that length of time is appropriate? You seem pretty serious, but how are we going to learn anything? The power of this site is seeing that one tidbit that you have considered that we haven't. Post reply Do you find this valuable?
Oakspar77777	12. RE: Zombie killing home defense plan Mar 14 2012, 5:37 PM EDT Hand sanitizer is worthless for anything other than firestart - and I mean that now - in the pre-apoc. Roof sniping with a .22LR is a sound plan - assuming you have ready roof access and that access is not so easy to get to that anyone who runs into your house can get up there with you (even so, windows make good choak points). What you need to have, however, is "more bullets than neighbors." If you live in a town of 42,000 - then you need at least 42,000 rounds (less that $1,500 worth in .22LR). You also need means to make your post unassailable - a water tower, a roof with only ladder access and a pulled up ladder, or something similar. Then, you need to think about time. Even if the hoard can mull about down there while you do your work - it is still going to take a great deal of time. Even at one kill every ten seconds (with reloading that is still a fast rate) and 9 hours of shooting a day (you still have to eat, pray, poop) you would be up there for two weeks (14 days) straight. Finally, 6 inches from your father. 6 inches from your uncle. 6 inches from your brother. You can still get "skruwed" as each body add another 6 inchs to the pile. A 20' roof is only 800 bodies from a walk up pile. Of course, you would try to spread these around and kill away from the wall when you can - but some zed will have to be shot strainght down - and they will pile up. Post reply Do you find this valuable?
x-wolfhunter	13. RE: Zombie killing home defense plan Mar 14 2012, 5:55 PM EDT \| Post edited: Mar 14 2012, 5:56 PM EDT @nightstalker: I would suggest you, as mentioned before, put on what you plan to take with you in the event that you are required to bug out and hike at least two miles with it - NO rest breaks allowed. If you can't do it, you know you need to rethink what you're carrying with you. Also, about the "sniping from the rooftop" plan, I would suggest not doing that - it draws too much unwanted attention, it wastes ammo (If they're not trying to maul you, don't worry about them. Just go about your business quietly and they hopefully won't find you), and it wastes time. Just think: In the time it takes you to kill, say, five zombies for sport, you could have filled containers with water, taken stock of your food/ammo, done some calisthenics, stacked some wood, and maybe even reinforced your barricades. The possibilities are endless. As for having a horde of zombies right outside your door, if that is the case, you need to lay low and basically not do anything but eat and crap until they leave, or you're toast. They will, if they accord with popular theory, disperse after a week or so just by wandering aimlessly or following one another. As for reusing crossbow bolts, this is a somewhat effective short-term plan, but they WILL break, no matter what you do - the one that misses and shatters on a brick wall; the one that snaps as you pull it quickly from the eye socket of a zombie to fire at the rapidly approaching other one . . . If you plan on carrying a crossbow with you, you need to know how to fletch new bolts as they break or faster. @Zee: Coincidentally (Or not) I have two 500 gallon water tanks in my basement, which I do indeed rotate regularly. I have a manual water-pressure pump in my basement, and my dad plans on installing a hand-pump on the well-cover outside. And then there's the stream and small pond by my house . . . I'm basically set for water. Post reply Do you find this valuable?
SovietPrince	14. RE: Zombie killing home defense plan Mar 19 2012, 8:45 AM EDT "Um...how are you going to get them to turn around so you can shoot them in said sweet spot and 100yd hit with a .22 in something the size of a quarter is something I'd pay to see. I mean I'm pretty good, but I don't even think I could pull that one off. Still, I think the killing potential would be near non existant at that range for a Zed. If you told me you had a rifle in a .30, I could see this happening." why would you need to spin on a dime and shoot a man sized target at 100yards? dont put down the .22's effectiveness. its a damn good bullet for this kind of thing. at far ranges, i'd rather something bigger too, but, hell, with the cost of ammo, one can afford to miss a few dozen times ;) Post reply 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you find this valuable? Do you?
wafflessrule	15. RE: Zombie killing home defense plan Nov 20 2012, 5:57 AM EST "there's no need for that fleeing plan right now." Ah, but that my friend, is where you are wrong! There are never enough backup plans. I have backup plans for my backup plans backup plans! Although if I were you I would get something at least 9mm unless you're EXTREMELY accurate. Also, a flashy gun is good for deterring raiders. I mean, if you were a raider would you go for the guy with the 9mm or the .22? Also, try and get a group established, and have regular meetings and training sessions. My group meets once every two weeks or so. Anyways, I wish you the best of luck with your plan! Post reply 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you find this valuable? Do you?

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