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MTNDREW339 |
Good hideouts
Mar 24 2012, 6:00 PM EDT
When picking out a hideout never ever pick a mall i know they have a wide inventory of items and sometimes a knife/sword store but there are to many entrances and dont have enough supplies to stay a long time. I would prefer first taking a truck as big as you can get i prefer a ford of the superduty series and then head straight to a home depot, lowes or any other store that holds tools,lumber,and dry wall for barricades, barriers, walls, (power tools make the job easier and can kill zombies quickly), training targets. then drop off all of these supplies at the hideout and make sure u have several men to start building right away and have some guard the group while the place is under construction. if limited men women can do sentry duty i meen they can me in the military and shooting a gun isnt to hard. then head to a costco to pick up frozen foods, canned foods, etc because costco carries everything in bulk sizes u wont need very many packages for a while so keep this as a resource place. after dropping these off go for a shooting range, outdoor goods store, police store, and if u r lucky a near by military base. these places will hold plenty of weapons, knives, armor, and camp out stuff. the only time i reccomend u go to a mall is for stuff like clothes cuz u always need a change of clothes and also u need to have some light clothes for running incase ur base gets overwhelmed. comment good reviews and i will put the rest of the plan if u dont like it to bad cuz i thimk its a smart plan29 out of 51 found this valuable. Do you? |
keywork |
1. RE: Good hideouts
Mar 25 2012, 12:01 AM EDT
This is basically my plan. Luckily work is about two blocks away. Lots of older Suburbans and cargo vans with plenty of cargo room. Then it's Lowe's and Wal-Mart, which, even more luckily, are across the street from my apartment. Then it's straight to the gun shop and camping store, then another block to my bug in location. It's an old home supply store that went out of business about ten years ago. 50,000 square feet, 25 foot double layered cinder block and concrete walls with no windows, solid steel doors, and it's about 200 hundred feet from the nearest building. The place was built to stand up to an F5 tornado and it's in great shape for an old building, so I figure it'll make a good fortress. The only thing about hitting up a big store like Costco or Wal-Mart is that you run the risk of being overrun by the panicked masses who haven't prepared and are trying to make up for lost time. Just got to get there fast.
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keywork |
2. RE: Good hideouts
Mar 25 2012, 12:02 AM EDT
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Don't know what happened there. For some reason my post went up twice
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3. RE: Good hideouts
Mar 25 2012, 1:24 AM EDT
http://www.zombiesurvivalwiki.com/page/The+Panic
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JamesIkanov |
4. RE: Good hideouts
Mar 25 2012, 8:57 AM EDT
you should definitely read up on the panic and what not, but the general idea is that people will flock towards places containing food, water, clothes and guns, and riot/loot the **** out of them, like right before a hurricane, only with more gunfights. and the rioting will eventually attract what the rioters are looting to prepare for. and eat their faces.as for walmart, home depots, police stations, and military bases? see above. as for guns not being hard to shoot? If you mean to say you've never shot one, and/or know very little about them, you are sorely mistaken. it'll be very hard to use a weapon if you can't tell what ammo goes into it, how it works on any level, and especially if you act like it's a laser cannon. Don't get me wrong, but I'm not trying to be a dick. the whole point of this site is to prep BEFORE something happens. not as it's happening. you should try to dissect every plan and make a contingency. it won't be easy, but it's better than getting you head gnawed off while your looking through all the 20 pounds of ammo you looted trying to figure out which bullet goes in your new rifle/pistol/shotgun. 14 out of 14 found this valuable. Do you? |
Zee-Man |
5. RE: Good hideouts
Mar 25 2012, 9:36 AM EDT
I am a staunch proponent of staying out of the big box stores during the panic. But after the dust has settled, if order has not been restored then I think some big boxes like Lowes and Home Depot are going to be worthwhile for scavenging. The Walmarts and Costcos will definitely be wiped out since they have food and electronics. Food is the practical thing looters want, and then there are all the have-nots that will be there out of stupidity grabbing what they could not afford. Some thinking I can finally have this and others thinking, hey I can fence this. The "contractor" supermarkets, on the other hand, may be looted of the power tools and appliances, but so much of what is offered by those stores is meaningless to looters. During the Panic these stores will be as dangerous as any other. When the dust has settled there should be plenty of hardware, plumbing, storage goods, paint, cleaning chemicals, and duct work. The lumber may be seriously depleted but there should be some left over, 2x12's and other dimensions that are not immediately useful. As places to be during the Panic, one would definitely be exposing oneself to great risk. As potential forts after the SHTF these will be worth a visit if inhospitable, but of little value otherwise. As places to loot during the latter Zpoc these will definitely be on the list. . 9 out of 9 found this valuable. Do you? |
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JamesIkanov |
6. RE: Good hideouts
Mar 25 2012, 11:01 AM EDT
I think that Few people will realize that it's actually safer and easier to go to a smaller store like a pharmacy, or convenience store. I'm gonna stay away from gas stations though. those will be night mares, especially since they're basically already almost literal powder kegs. I think it's totally fine to check out stores post Z day, but I also think that everyone's chances of survival go up if they simply make a coordinated effort to work together and take all the supplies to some communal location. probably a pipe dream, but I'd much rather everyone go hungry for two hours than watch my neighbors starve to death.Basically: if it's the first thing you think of, think again. being well advertised as a brand will be hellish, and you should not go to any well known department stores. you might want to check out the following out for supplies though.... maybe : EMS (Eastern Mountain Sports) Local Stores Warehouses (find out what kind of companies use them) Contractors (you might have an arms plant near you and not know it. the Gov't is good at making nondescript buildings filled with scary people and guns.) Your Neighbors (not to rob, but if you know them, and they know you, and they have guns, and you don't , you might want to work together.) 5 out of 5 found this valuable. Do you? |
vampirejediknight |
7. RE: Good hideouts
Mar 25 2012, 12:03 PM EDT
Someone may have already said this, but I'd like to point out that a huge, loaded down vehicle will probably get bad gas mileage, which is important as fuel may be scare post-apocalypse.
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The_Anomoly |
8. RE: Good hideouts
Mar 25 2012, 3:49 PM EDT
"Someone may have already said this, but I'd like to point out that a huge, loaded down vehicle will probably get bad gas mileage, which is important as fuel may be scare post-apocalypse. "Gas milage is almost irrelevant after the first month gas will already be in such poor condition no vehicle witll run it efficiently. 4-6 months down the road gas will be in such poor condition it probably will not run a modern vehicle, let alone one pushing the limits of weight capacity of the vehicle. After Z-day most modern vehicles will be rendered useless, most likely within a month. having lived through the Blackout of 2003 most gas stations will probably be empty within 48hrs and the cars will run out of gas blocking the roadways. 5 out of 5 found this valuable. Do you? |
CDSm101-800s |
9. RE: Good hideouts
Mar 28 2012, 4:40 AM EDT
"Gas milage is almost irrelevant after the first month gas will already be in such poor condition no vehicle witll run it efficiently. 4-6 months down the road gas will be in such poor condition it probably will not run a modern vehicle, let alone one pushing the limits of weight capacity of the vehicle.lol.. and when the power goes out.. there goes the gas pumps.. 2 out of 2 found this valuable. Do you? |
PepsiSky |
10. RE: Good hideouts
Mar 28 2012, 3:55 PM EDT
i would suspect that its not good to have a large group, keep a low-profile but make sure that you can still fight them off
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PepsiSky |
11. RE: Good hideouts
Mar 28 2012, 3:55 PM EDT
"lol.. and when the power goes out.. there goes the gas pumps.."thats why you get the Honda Prius! electricity FTW! 4 out of 9 found this valuable. Do you? |
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CDSm101-800s |
12. RE: Good hideouts
Mar 28 2012, 7:27 PM EDT
"thats why you get the Honda Prius! electricity FTW! "ummm and then what you going to do with the Prius? No gas, no power, no Prius either. 8 out of 8 found this valuable. Do you? |
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Zee-Man |
13. RE: Good hideouts
Mar 28 2012, 7:44 PM EDT
It just occurred to me, for those folks thinking they are going to hole up in a big box store, by doing so you have cut your ammo at least in half. You only get to count on single bullet kills if you have so much accuracy to hit the brain stem every time. I think we determined that would be a target the size of a quarter? Any other kill shot means extra rounds to fire when the corpse gets back up. This is supposing that you are planning on killing the living to survive. Really? The Living? 3 out of 5 found this valuable. Do you? |
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14. RE: Good hideouts
Mar 28 2012, 8:31 PM EDT
"ummm and then what you going to do with the Prius? No gas, no power, no Prius either."Solar panels? Geothermal energy? Hydroelectric power? Wind turbines? Electricity is easier to make than gasoline. 5 out of 5 found this valuable. Do you? |
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15. RE: Good hideouts
Mar 28 2012, 10:54 PM EDT
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"Solar panels? Geothermal energy? Hydroelectric power? Wind turbines?True, but it will be easier to get gas out of underground tanks than build any of the things you mentioned during an outbreak. That was my point. After the dust has settled down, I am sure generating power will be easy enough to do. 3 out of 3 found this valuable. Do you? |
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16. RE: Good hideouts
Mar 28 2012, 11:02 PM EDT
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"It just occurred to me, for those folks thinking they are going to hole up in a big box store, by doing so you have cut your ammo at least in half.I tend to agree with you on the big box store idea. It might be feasible tho if the outbreak spreads real fast and your near enough to get there quickly and secure it from undeadies. That is a big if tho. Either way your going to have problems with other survivors either trying to scavenge or taking you over. They also might want in with a horde of hungry ghouls just behind them. As to hitting a brain stem... it would definately put the standard zombie model down, but if that is the only way to kill them, then alot more ammo is going to be used than just half. Most ppls cannot hit a quarter at 12 feet when it is stationary.. I guess it also would depend on what type of undead we were dealing with. 2 out of 2 found this valuable. Do you? |
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JamesIkanov |
17. RE: Good hideouts
Mar 30 2012, 4:04 PM EDT
BTW, anyone got any ideas for an actual good hide out? I know that Generally your house is a safe bet, for the short-mid term even if it's not all bunkered up, but does anyone know any other generally good structures?
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18. RE: Good hideouts
Mar 30 2012, 4:17 PM EDT
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I like this kids plan since it's apparently 100% fact and irrefutable. I don't think any of us can say that about our plans.And since his plan is so fool proof, I'm going to be his first challenge. I think I'll be a leader of a group of marauders. He'll have to race me to all of his locations, and now that I know his plan, I'll know where to cut him off. If he wants supplies, he'll have to trade women and ammo, or it's off to the mines with him! 4 out of 4 found this valuable. Do you? |
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Zee-Man |
19. RE: Good hideouts
Mar 30 2012, 4:21 PM EDT
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"BTW, anyone got any ideas for an actual good hide out? I know that Generally your house is a safe bet, for the short-mid term even if it's not all bunkered up, but does anyone know any other generally good structures? "Things that make a good hide-out Minimum Features 1) Has a reliable source of water. 2) Has ample storage space for food, ammunition, boarding, etc. 3) Is unobtrusive. Its location and resources are not general knowledge. If more than you and your immediate group know it exists then it is NOT a good hide-out. (The AHJ may know of it for tax purposes) 4) Is in at least sub-urban if not rural area. (If the rest of the qualities can be had in an urban area, then OK) 5) Is already moderately secure. Present day thieves are not able to just walk in. LEO isn't going to come put up a sheriff sale, etc. Further, is able to be made more secure without too much extra effort. 6) You have access to it now, so stocking can be done in advance. Bonus features: 7) Has alternative fuel heating 8) Has off grid power supply 9) Has multiple buildings Obscure features 10) Is geologically safe. Not on a fault, not near a volcano, not in a flood plain, etc 11) Is strategically safe. Not near a military base, outside of nuclear attack zones, etc. 6 out of 6 found this valuable. Do you? |
