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shadowmancer |
20. RE: Good hideouts
Mar 30 2012, 5:19 PM EDT
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The problem won't be making it but converting it into useable forms. If your generating thousands of DC volts all those AC machines won't work, Inverters are fragile peices of hardware. Hyrdo may produce too much power buring out your equipment without the correct transformers.Solar and wind may not produce enough without storage. Both storage and conversion will be your biggest problems as the parts that do that all decay and will not be able to be replaced. Modern tech is fragile. heh and to answer the question of do I know of any? yes I do i'll give an example on the other side of North America :D on the frasier river there are several turn of the century hydroplants which are abandoned husks. They have water, drainage and are hardend stone and cement structures they exist on other rivers but the ones in BC are are far enough away from me to not hinder my plans so I'll mention the specific river lol. They are 100% intact. structurally but most are missing the heavy equipment. As a bonus they meet most of Zee-Mans criteria woo-hoo! 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
AnimalR6.8 |
21. RE: Good hideouts
Apr 10 2012, 1:39 AM EDT
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As far as the lack of petrol goes, has anyone ever heard of GreaseCar.com? Simply put, you can run a diesel on FILTERED waste vegetable oil, as well as many other oil products. Hell, the original diesel engine ran on peanut oil. Stock up for free by visiting your local fast food restaurants, and spend a weekend filtering out all the crap and adding stabilizers and anti-bacterial chemicals to your stockpile.Check out GreaseCar.com, as they sell pre-made kits for cars and have a lot of questions answered there. Also, it's wise to get your supplies NOW and preserve them, even hide them. Ever been out on Black Friday? Or what about recently when Lexington, KY broke out in riots because UK had won the NCAA Championship? If people will act like lunatics over $3 toasters and a basketball game, what will they do when they need food and water for their children? If you can see a Walmart from your Bunker, just sit back and watch the blood bath with some fresh, cold water and an MRE. 3 out of 4 found this valuable. Do you? |
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shadowmancer |
22. RE: Good hideouts
Apr 10 2012, 7:26 AM EDT
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Vegi oil only works in warm climates vegitable oils thicken in the cold. The fuel requires a preheater to work because of the different ignition temperatures. Most bio cars have a small tank of standard fuel to allow the engine to warm up before using biofuel. It is difficult to start a cold vehicle on vegi oil alone. Processed biological sourced fuel is a different matter and requires engine mods. This biological sourced fuel is still limited by operating temperature. Bio cars must run for the last moments on regular fuel to make sure the system doesn't get clogged as vegi oil changes viscosity when cooled.Diesel refers to the cycle for combustion not the fuel as it is the inventors name. A petrol engine is propperly known as an "otto cycle engine" reflecting the name of its inventor. I will not used biodiesel as the fuel name because it is a silly word it is not a biological function. Peanut oil was abandoned as the initial fuel because of the temperature problems. It is far easier and safer to keep a small amount of fuel heated for a model engine than the large tank required for a train. 5 out of 5 found this valuable. Do you? |
vampirejediknight |
23. RE: Good hideouts
Apr 10 2012, 10:09 AM EDT
"Things that make a good hide-outThis is pretty much the ideal hideout. (My first-choice hideout has pretty much all of this). Do you find this valuable? |
The_Anomoly |
24. RE: Good hideouts
Apr 10 2012, 3:34 PM EDT
"This is pretty much the ideal hideout. (My first-choice hideout has pretty much all of this).My BOL meets 1-6 excluding being sub-urban. It as right on the border of what I could call sub-urban/urban. It also qualifies for 9,10, and 11, however alternative fuel heating, and alternative power are not established. Do you find this valuable? |
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woody000555 |
25. RE: Good hideouts
Apr 24 2012, 6:22 AM EDT
how about something simple like a large water tank? and i don't mean like the small backyard water tanks, i mean the huge concrete ones that the government use. The one near where i live is about 4-5 meters off the ground and is on top of a hill so thats good for picking off zeds or just spotting them out. You could have your tent or tarp set up on top and you'd be outta' the dodge.- Riley Do you find this valuable? |
talenkarr |
26. RE: Good hideouts
Apr 26 2012, 5:19 PM EDT
My family's BOL is my grandpa's house it is in the woods. It's about an hr. away but between and my sisters truck and mine it isn't that much of a problem. Everthing can be stripped down and since it is really a cabin, it is easy to make it with out eclectricity. (except the bthroom.) There is a stockpile of foodstuff already there, and it already on a well. Plus on the propety, there is a small cave that can be a secondary BOL. It is on a fault line though. Do you find this valuable? |
Zee-Man |
27. RE: Good hideouts
Apr 26 2012, 5:39 PM EDT
"Aside from the fault line it sounds like a really nice set up. You might look into alternative energy sources. VAWTs (vertical axis wind turbine) are not hard to construct and relatively inexpensive. How do you rate it using the criteria from post #19? Do you find this valuable? |
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talenkarr |
28. RE: Good hideouts
Apr 26 2012, 6:04 PM EDT
"Aside from the fault line it sounds like a really nice set up. You might look into alternative energy sources. VAWTs (vertical axis wind turbine) are not hard to construct and relatively inexpensive. How do you rate it using the criteria from post #19?My grandfather was at peal habor and knows first hand what it is like to have no power so he Made sure the house doesn't need it. he has been stockpiling Since he bought the place 40 years ago. and granpa LOVES his guns. and it is in the middle of no where if i was to rate it..... it would be 9/10 it still is on a fault line. and I still have a slight (huge) fear of the "big one" it is totally sustainable for 7 people for a year. more if one of use finailly gets a green thumb. Do you find this valuable? |
Dragonslayer13 |
29. RE: Good hideouts
May 9 2012, 12:43 AM EDT
How about an underground bunker?
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11ACRBlackhorse |
30. RE: Good hideouts
May 14 2012, 7:38 PM EDT
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First gas will be gone in a day at most stations. A typical gas station receives one full tanker a day. That's 8500-9000 gals fuel. And most city big town gas stations will sell that much on a normal day. On holidays or long weekends that can reach 2-3 tanker loads a day.Also on a normal day most people purchase less than half a tank. So in an emergency expect complete fill ups by everyone that can. And the others will try to trade or steal it. So I give it less than a day of panic buying especially the popular and or large stations. Now normal 87 gas with 10% ethanol will store for more than a month and not lose enough burn power to effect most engines. Getting gas from a powerless gas station isn't all that hard. Just get a 12vt pump (electric car gas pump) and drop a hose down the the fuel hole. Just make sure your getting the fuel you want. Don't want gas in diesel or vise verse. Ultra low sulfur diesel can also be stored for more than a month without any loss of power. Only ships use the old diesel (now called high sulfur). A liberated golf cart with a lawn tractor style trailer can be transport in urban areas after SHTF. Easy to recharge strait from solar, wind, or any other 12vt source. Heck I think they even sell 4X4 carts too. Now the original post. Ya and you are the only person in the world that knows these places have food and or supplies. You are so funny. lmao I think I wet myself lol Dragonslayer13. What you gonna do if it springs a leak or you oxygen supply gets cut off. I wouldn't do this unless it's a nuke sub and I was in the Navy. Try again but thinking out of the box is a great first step. Talenkarr that sounds like a good start. The only weak point is how you gonna get there safely and do you have a means of protection. When your vehicle is still moving while others are not. People will try and stop and or take your transportation. Do you find this valuable? |
Tomdarocker |
31. RE: Good hideouts
May 27 2012, 5:32 PM EDT
I like to think a zombie apocalypse would occur in a similar way to Shaun of the Dead or I am Legend. in which case people get sick before they turn. where's the one place no-one goes when their feeling ill? the beach! get a car, a ton of supplies, a tent and head on down to the beach. that's my plan :)
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11ACRBlackhorse |
32. RE: Good hideouts
May 28 2012, 8:29 AM EDT
Surfers and everyone else that loves the beach go while sick. Parents taking the crumb crunchers out for a day of fun. Life Guards and other people that work on the beach will show up sick.Then you have all the people that live next to the beach. Most beaches have at least homes on them now. And non developed beaches usually mean hard to get to locations. They might work then. 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
renet76 |
33. RE: Good hideouts
May 28 2012, 10:36 AM EDT
"Surfers and everyone else that loves the beach go while sick. Parents taking the crumb crunchers out for a day of fun. Life Guards and other people that work on the beach will show up sick. Actually heading to the beach in my part of the world would work as no one goes to them unless its summer and even then most of the beaches are empty as the water is still cold so yeah it could actually work Do you find this valuable? |
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11ACRBlackhorse |
34. RE: Good hideouts
May 28 2012, 12:50 PM EDT
"That might work but if people live near the beach, they just might chase you off in a crisis. Your not a local and they don't want people bringing the virus to their home area. Would you? I wouldn't. It just depends on the locals and if there are any. But if it doesn't have any locals close by, then it could work. But you need shelter depending on the season, weather, and wind conditions. Do you find this valuable? |
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Tomdarocker |
35. RE: Good hideouts
May 28 2012, 5:11 PM EDT
"Surfers and everyone else that loves the beach go while sick. Parents taking the crumb crunchers out for a day of fun. Life Guards and other people that work on the beach will show up sick.I see where your coming from but your from america (judging by your display picture) over here in England beaches stay empty, lifeguards are hard to find and there's definitely no abundance in home. I can think of quite a few with plenty of empty hills in the surrounding area and not a soul in site :) Do you find this valuable? |
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11ACRBlackhorse |
36. RE: Good hideouts
May 28 2012, 11:02 PM EDT
"I see where your coming from but your from america (judging by your display picture) over here in England beaches stay empty, lifeguards are hard to find and there's definitely no abundance in home. I can think of quite a few with plenty of empty hills in the surrounding area and not a soul in site :)"Then it could work. But shelter should still be a concern. Fresh water, game (fishing?), edible plants, ect. Just remember others might also think the same thing. Just plan accordingly and if possible camp there for a weekend. To test if you can do it and if anyone tries to chase you off. If all goes well then congrats you have the makings of a hide. Do you find this valuable? |
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Dragonslayer13 |
37. RE: Good hideouts
May 29 2012, 10:32 PM EDT
11ACRBlackhorse,thanks for showing this weak spot,and I have a solution.1.have an alternate,manual way to transport oxygen through the bunker. 2.have a strong,hospitable building constructed ,that the bunker entrance is in,so survivors can wait outside while repairs are being done. One more thing to EVERYONE meat(during a zombie apocalypse)will probably be infected, so being able to produce vegetables will serve you well. Do you find this valuable? |
Spartan1190 |
38. RE: Good hideouts
May 30 2012, 7:48 PM EDT
I live in the suburbs of Chicago, and Lake Michigan is the biggest body of water near me. In the lake about a mile or so off the beach coast, is pump stations that pump in the water from the lake to the city. They resemble your proverbial light tower. Lake Michigan is fresh water and filled with edible fish. I find it unlikely that other wont have tried, but that would be my ideal hideout.
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j$torzombie0 |
39. RE: Good hideouts
Jun 1 2012, 3:20 PM EDT
"thats why you get the Honda Prius! electricity FTW! "water if the power goes out then your screwed 2 out of 2 found this valuable. Do you? |
