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ViolentKisses |
Off Road Wheeled Luggage
Apr 5 2012, 7:05 AM EDT
For me at least I have found that a good set of wheeled luggage helps when on travel and carrying lots of heavy things over long distances. ((thanks to being a preparatory nut I carry alot of heavy things in my luggage...)) Anyways the question that popped into my mind was do they make larger bike type wheel luggage for use in the many unpaved surfaces of the world.Oddly enough they really don't... It seems so simple a concept to mount a couple of children's 12" bike wheels on either side a stiff framed set of luggage but it has yet to be done. Here is the Only decent example I could find and it was a DIY project a guy made out of necessity. http://daltonrooney.com/weblog/2009/wheelie-backpack/ 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
IamSlowRide |
1. RE: Off Road Wheeled Luggage
Apr 5 2012, 7:11 AM EDT
I personally would not want to have to drag my gear behind me...BUT if I had to DIY a rig for such a thing, I think I'd use a 3 wheeled golf hand cart and modify the thing to carry a pack at least then it would stand on it's own and has a hand brake so it won't roll away
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ViolentKisses |
2. RE: Off Road Wheeled Luggage
Apr 5 2012, 7:16 AM EDT
My question to you is do you know any brands selling off road capable wheeled luggage?What do you think of it as a general concept? When you think of hiking or perhaps bugging out you typically think backpacks, but why couldn't we use wheeled packs for the less severe outdoor terrain. Or to help you visualize, places a mountain bike could go, but that the tiny plastic wheels of typical luggage could not. Horses carry alot more when pulling a cart than they do lugging stuff on their backs. So why do we carry half our body weight in a pack on our backs if we don't have to? 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
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ViolentKisses |
3. RE: Off Road Wheeled Luggage
Apr 5 2012, 7:22 AM EDT
"I personally would not want to have to drag my gear behind me...BUT if I had to DIY a rig for such a thing, I think I'd use a 3 wheeled golf hand cart and modify the thing to carry a pack at least then it would stand on it's own and has a hand brake so it won't roll away"That guy is planning on adding a kickstand to his little experiment so it can be freestanding. And actually what I was envisioning with this bike wheel type pack was a much lower center of gravity with the pack just an inch or two off the ground and the bike wheels would be mounted centering around 5 or so inches up from the bottom of the pack. It just seems like it would be more stable and less top heavy that way. Do you find this valuable? |
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IamSlowRide |
4. RE: Off Road Wheeled Luggage
Apr 5 2012, 7:22 AM EDT
I don't think the concept is all bad, but for me it would have to be able to convert back to a back pack, simply because you would not be able to drag it everywhere realistically...yes over more open terrain it would work, my problem is it doesn't leave my hands free.Horses do carry more dragging a cart but then they are limited to the type of terrain they can cross, in that scenario a second horse or pack mule would be ideal I am not aware of anyone selling such an item Do you find this valuable? |
Oakspar77777 |
5. RE: Off Road Wheeled Luggage
Apr 5 2012, 6:38 PM EDT
Some garden centers have wheelbarrows and pull carts (Red Rider on steriods) with larger wheels. Usually not bike large in diameter, but larger than standard carts and barrows and wide enough for softer soils. I'm not sure it would be any fun to pull, and definately not to lift and push (even with a two wheeled barrow), but it would GREATLY increase the amount of gear you could carry. It would also, however, keep you rather tied to the roads - a grassy field could be crossed, but a forrest could not. Google Images "large wheeled garden carts" to see several options. A large wheeled handcart (used for moving stacks of boxes, furniture, etc) is also a good option. It can be pulled easily, will negotiate rought terrain better than a barrow or cart, often have two extra wheels to lay it down and tow, and can carry a good deal. Of course, if you are in the city, there is no reason to neglect good old shopping carts - helping hobos haul their jars of hobo gravy and dead cat collections since 1953. Do you find this valuable? |
=jesse= |
6. RE: Off Road Wheeled Luggage
Apr 5 2012, 6:47 PM EDT
This would be a cool weekend project. Now that I've beaten mass effect 3 a couple times I might try and build my own off road capable luggage.
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timberrattler |
7. RE: Off Road Wheeled Luggage
Apr 5 2012, 9:52 PM EDT
http://media.photobucket.com/image/3%20gun%20cart/jmorrismetal/3g/3gc.jpgBaby strollers made for joggers are often used by guys who compete in 3-gun. You can pick up a three wheeled stroller like this for cheap at Goodwill or a yard sale. I mean hell, ya got drink holders and everything. 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
Uzzgub |
8. RE: Off Road Wheeled Luggage
Apr 5 2012, 10:16 PM EDT
"Of course, if you are in the city, there is no reason to neglect good old shopping carts - helping hobos haul their jars of hobo gravy and dead cat collections since 1953."I was thinking about tying 3/4 shopping carts to a mobility scooter to make a convoy type carrier for scavaging with because where i live i think the roads would get blocked very easily and this:-http://media.photobucket.com/image/3%20gun%20cart/jmorrismetal/3g/3gc.jpg this is awsom =) 0 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
Sharpie41 |
9. RE: Off Road Wheeled Luggage
Apr 5 2012, 10:34 PM EDT
I think the concept is good, execution isn't so great.
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Jamez820 |
10. RE: Off Road Wheeled Luggage
Apr 5 2012, 11:39 PM EDT
Use one of those Golf push carts it has the same setup at the Stroller just less stuff on it
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FrankLeeDeRainged |
11. RE: Off Road Wheeled Luggage
Apr 6 2012, 5:51 AM EDT
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The handle on matey's rig needs to be longer, think about the geometry of the native American travois and look up bicycle trailers._ 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
Zee-Man |
12. RE: Off Road Wheeled Luggage
Apr 6 2012, 4:41 PM EDT
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"The handle on matey's rig needs to be longer, think about the geometry of the native American travois and look up bicycle trailers.A wider wheel base makes for greater stability also. Very good point with the travois. I have plans to make a collapsible one to keep in the UEV. At the moment the cost estimate is $60. I'm unsure whether I will use 10" diameter wheels or a larger diameter. The travois used by aborigines (Native American and others) did not have wheels, of course. That is one point of tradition I choose to abandon. While a solid tire is more common in the smaller diameters, a pneumatic tire would do better over rough terrain. One thought I have is to use wheels for a child's bicycle. Here are some other ideas on mobility http://www.zombiesurvivalwiki.com/page/Livingimpaired%27s+Bug+out+Bag I thought this guy's idea had quite a good bit of merit since he is wheel chair bound. A fact that most of the responses ignored. Edit: changed link to page instead of thread. 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
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=jesse= |
13. RE: Off Road Wheeled Luggage
Apr 6 2012, 4:52 PM EDT
"A wider wheel base makes for greater stability also."It's a good point about wheel base. I looked at Living's page there. The trash bin would be relatively easy to tug around, assuming the wheel base was fixed. My parents have a looooong driveway on a hill. I can't tell you how many times I took the trash out to have the damn bin tip over. Then you have the joy of chasing the cans and bottles rolling away... 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
JunkCollector |
14. RE: Off Road Wheeled Luggage
Apr 6 2012, 5:08 PM EDT
These are the best production wheeled packs that I could find:http://travel.spotcoolstuff.com/review/osprey-meridian-sojourn/best-wheeled-backpack-hybrid For my bug out beyond my bag on foot hauling needs, I will use a heavy duty garden cart that holds 2 30 gallon plastic tubs and a couple of long guns. Do you find this valuable? |
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FrankLeeDeRainged |
15. RE: Off Road Wheeled Luggage
Apr 6 2012, 5:54 PM EDT
If this is for off-road are the wheels actually an advantage? "Although considered more primitive than wheel-based forms of transport, on the type of territory where the travois was used (forest floors, soft soil, snow, etc.), rather than roadways, wheels would encounter difficulties which make them less efficient. As such the travois was employed by Coureurs des bois in New France's fur trade with the Plains Tribes. -Wiki The travois was a subtly efficient device for moving stuff over a very wide variety of terrains, Suppose you had one bolted out of aluminium tubing with polypropylene tubing runners. Polypropylene (Polypropene) is one of the most slippery (or lower friction coefficient if you prefer) common materials I know. It would wear more quickly on paved surfaces but you could always drill some holes in the tube and pack some 'road wheels' _ Do you find this valuable? |
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Oakspar77777 |
16. RE: Off Road Wheeled Luggage
Apr 6 2012, 6:28 PM EDT
Well, if you are tossing wheels all together, a small canoe makes for a handy sled. It drags well, can hold alot, but is not fast and noise is a factor (as with anything that drags).
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Zee-Man |
17. RE: Off Road Wheeled Luggage
Apr 6 2012, 6:47 PM EDT
Im not sure what you mean by runners. The trad travois had 2 points in contacts with the ground. The advantage was that the fricative surface was reduced to a few square inches. When pulling the load over a fallen log, this would also leave no catch points. Over large rocks say 10L size, the travois seems to have no advantage. Runners. I am imaging skids. Shaped a bit like skis? I think that would get caught in brambles, fallen sticks, rock crags. If you mean wear or bearing pads, then I don't see much advantage to walking speed. Adding wheels does little for the friction relief. For getting over obstacles the wheels might add a little to reducing drag. When I get to building my travois I will contrive some experiments since this is an interesting difference. Do you find this valuable? |
NotAlice |
18. RE: Off Road Wheeled Luggage
Apr 6 2012, 6:53 PM EDT
"Well, if you are tossing wheels all together, a small canoe makes for a handy sled. It drags well, can hold alot, but is not fast and noise is a factor (as with anything that drags). "OTOH, a travois is likely to be lighter than a canoe. I rather like the idea of a travois with "road wheels". Something like skateboard wheels on each pole, heck, they could be hinged to swing out of the way when not locked down. Hmm.... Well, I suppose you could fit wheels on a canoe, too. Just not as much fun. lol Do you find this valuable? |
shadowmancer |
19. RE: Off Road Wheeled Luggage
Apr 6 2012, 7:53 PM EDT
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A canoe makes a better hat, than a sled :P lol portage forever! You can get small lightweight trailers for canoes for bikes. The weight of a canoe depends on its materials. A cedar one is heavy a birch one is not the old yellow(ish) fiberglass one is somewhere in between. LOL take two canoe bike trailers and you have a road canoe, those are very fun. Do you find this valuable? |
