"Just to put things into perspective. A question for the OP (who'll never answer because this is a "fire and forget" thread). What if a dude saved you because he thought you were hot? And then if you didn't put out he raped you?"

"Considering your line on the poor, that's a startling statement.

I.e. the rich put their own needs and wants over the lives of the poor by avoiding paying their god damn taxes."

"Really, now? All "rich people" avoid their taxes? I didn't know money automatically made somone a scum. . . so much for getting all that money to give to charity. . .

Normally your comments are valuable, but this is a little, uh, narrow-minded. "

"Considering your line on the poor, that's a startling statement.

I.e. the rich put their own needs and wants over the lives of the poor by avoiding paying their god damn taxes."

"Not really.

I say that my needs take a level of priority over others. There are limits to that but ultimatly I seek to improve my condition.

No one has a responsability to look after my needs. None. Not the government. Not rich people. No one.
My job.
I apply this to everyone.

If I had it my way no government money would be used to support the poor. "

"Because they're too damn poor to pay anything or else they'd go under! America is the only major Western industrialised nation where 50% of the people live on Walmart wages. The income inequality is massive.

Not to mention they do pay taxes, the poor aren't exempt from sales taxes."

"What? This hero just saved your life! Your life!

You couldn't close your eyes and take it like a man for the guy that just saved your life?

Talk about ungrateful. LOL.

So why do these young guys intantly think a woman would do the same? Especially during an apoc when they could die during childbirth without medical help."

"Well lads, if that's your attitude, enjoy your massive slums, increasing crime rates/ever-more-powerful police state and the knowledge that at least you personally are alright.. For the moment. God help you if you get sick or injured, lose your job, or become a victim."

"What makes you think that has not happened already? Uncle Suger did not come running to help bail my WASP ass out. No massive slums or out of control crime here either. People actually work for a living here. This is not a handout state Mr Irish."

"Neither is Europe.

The French work 35 hours a week, yet they're still as productive per person as the average American. The difference is when they get sick, or lose their jobs, or want to better themselves via education, they don't get ****** over. And that's France, we could talk about the Nordic model which is even more socialist, and yet the Nordic countries are even more wealthy.

As for massive slums and out of control crime, your statistics say otherwise. Crime in the United States is absolutely rampant compared with Western Europe, so much so that the newspapers have to talk up common corner kids in order to get a crime story. The only thing reducing it is that the men and women of the police departments are giving their lives in ever greater numbers to prevent it. It's pretty much the reason why any sane person in the US is pro-gun rights, because the chances are relatively high by Western standards that you will need to cap someone in self-defence.

So say "This is not a handout state" with pride all you like, the evidence says you have nothing to be proud about. Bailouts going to the banks is a certainty when the poor vote in the rich man's interest. Corporate bailouts aren't socialist."