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caj4497 |
lone wolf?
Apr 23 2012, 8:54 PM EDT
is there anybody who is just moving from place to place without a set BOL thats my plan i belive that making a fort will eventually fail and you will be trapped in your own walls and eaten alive if your out in the open you can just keep running if you have to
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evil_kenny |
1. RE: lone wolf?
Apr 23 2012, 9:25 PM EDT
Being alone is idiotic, what if you roll your ankle? In a group this is a minor injury, it will be good again in a couple of days, but by yourself it's fatal.Not digging in and constructing a fort is a decent idea, but you can't run forever, you will run out of food or just get tired of it eventually then you will most likely go to some urban area to scavenge for food and supplies and end up dead. 2 out of 3 found this valuable. Do you? |
IrishHitman |
2. RE: lone wolf?
Apr 23 2012, 11:11 PM EDT
I don't recommend going lone wolf except in the early days perhaps.Long term survival on your own is extremely difficult, it's basically the reason why humans evolved the way we did, and the reason why human society exists. 2 out of 3 found this valuable. Do you? |
Sullivan714 |
3. RE: lone wolf?
Apr 24 2012, 2:57 AM EDT
I think in the SHTF scenario, you'll most of the time need someone to watch your back. Even as simple as taking a p!ss. I wanted to go lone wolf too before I got into my work. Now I think the complete opposite.
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oldannyboy37 |
4. RE: lone wolf?
Apr 24 2012, 3:43 AM EDT
Two is one, one is none. Being alone in any type of SHTF situation is a bad idea. You have no one to watch your back, no one to stay on guard while you rest, no one to help you with basic task, and if you ever get injured you'll have no one to help carry your burdens. Like Sulivan said, something as simple as getting caught with your trousers down taking a piss could be avoided if you have someone to watch out for you. The drifter style of survival doesn't seem very useful for long term survival. Walling yourself in and not having an escape plan is bad, but not having an established area or place that you know for sure has the supplies and shelter you need isn't good either. 1 out of 2 found this valuable. Do you? |
nissassa |
5. RE: lone wolf?
Apr 24 2012, 5:24 AM EDT
1000 pardons but i m have to disagree... im a loner... been a loner as long as i can remember.. a loner can always settle down somewhere secure when he's done traveling or find a secure location to make it his home, you can always set up traps to defend or alert you with enough time to bounce out of there ... and if you get hurt by chance than there's no cryin about now , handle your business and keep moving ( oh yeah ive been hurt on numberous occassions too ) ... yeah i'll trust you for awhile till you screw up.. then i'm outta here ( at least i'm honest ) 'cause im not gonna risk the life of my lil' girl for somebody with a hunch or unproven ideas instead of watching my six .. and yes i will stick to the urban area you should always stay where your talents serves and benefits you best ... trust should always be earn ( god bless my team of loners - hey thats a oxymoron isnt it ) lol .. what if the person helping you has been bitten but was ashame to tell you or there was something mental with that person.. bump that!! im good , along the way if i meet people fine but dont expect me to sing "cumbaya" around a camp fire.. again trust should be earn..
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11ACRBlackhorse |
6. RE: lone wolf?
Apr 24 2012, 7:04 AM EDT
" 1000 pardons but i m have to disagree... im a loner... been a loner as long as i can remember.. a loner can always settle down somewhere secure when he's done traveling or find a secure location to make it his home, you can always set up traps to defend or alert you with enough time to bounce out of there ... and if you get hurt by chance than there's no cryin about now , handle your business and keep moving ( oh yeah ive been hurt on numberous occassions too ) ... yeah i'll trust you for awhile till you screw up.. then i'm outta here ( at least i'm honest ) 'cause im not gonna risk the life of my lil' girl for somebody with a hunch or unproven ideas instead of watching my six .. and yes i will stick to the urban area you should always stay where your talents serves and benefits you best ... trust should always be earn ( god bless my team of loners - hey thats a oxymoron isnt it ) lol .. what if the person helping you has been bitten but was ashame to tell you or there was something mental with that person.. bump that!! im good , along the way if i meet people fine but dont expect me to sing "cumbaya" around a camp fire.. again trust should be earn.."Nobody said hook up with unknown people Nobody is a one man/woman army/fighting force. Nobody on this site is a guaranteed survivor, including you That's why we try to form groups before SHTF. And traveling with younger kids its a larger risk on them and you Getting hurt alone isn't about toughing it out and pushing through any pain. A broken leg, foot, hand, or arm will spell doom for anyone. And any children dependent on others for protection/survival If I get hurt and or killed my kids have more than their mother for support. And my kids survival can't be guaranteed by me alone and or the wife. Everyone makes mistakes no matter how good. A group helps compensate for those mistakes with more eyes, ears, brains, and yes trigger fingers 2 out of 3 found this valuable. Do you? |
OutlawJames |
7. RE: lone wolf?
Apr 24 2012, 8:00 AM EDT
"1000 pardons but i m have to disagree... im a loner... been a loner as long as i can remember.. a loner can always settle down somewhere secure when he's done traveling or find a secure location to make it his home, you can always set up traps to defend or alert you with enough time to bounce out of there ... and if you get hurt by chance than there's no cryin about now , handle your business and keep moving ( oh yeah ive been hurt on numberous occassions too ) ... yeah i'll trust you for awhile till you screw up.. then i'm outta here ( at least i'm honest ) 'cause im not gonna risk the life of my lil' girl for somebody with a hunch or unproven ideas instead of watching my six .. and yes i will stick to the urban area you should always stay where your talents serves and benefits you best ... trust should always be earn ( god bless my team of loners - hey thats a oxymoron isnt it ) lol .. what if the person helping you has been bitten but was ashame to tell you or there was something mental with that person.. bump that!! im good , along the way if i meet people fine but dont expect me to sing "cumbaya" around a camp fire.. again trust should be earn.."The problem with your logic is...your not a loner now during an apocolyptic situation, where things are trying to eat you. I for most of my life have tended to be a loner. But being alone presents all kinds of problems when you are in a situation where danger lurks around every corner. You cannot have eyes in the back of your head 24 hours of the day. You may be able to find adequate shelter to sleep protected. but what if you dont. As a loner you have no one to watch while you rest. You have no one to watch while you scavange food or supplies, leading to a very dangerous situation. You have no one to keep watch while you take a crap.. I am a loner...but if I need ten bodies to put up a barn....I get ten bodies. 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
ItsMrManCub |
8. RE: lone wolf?
Apr 24 2012, 8:21 AM EDT
"The problem with your logic is...your not a loner now during an apocolyptic situation, where things are trying to eat you.10 Hawt hard body females in daisy duke jeans that is... The problem with being a loner is eventually your gonna die...alone...with no one to carry on your lineage or anything. Perhaps being a loner will be post apoc Darwinism. 2 out of 2 found this valuable. Do you? |
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OutlawJames |
9. RE: lone wolf?
Apr 24 2012, 10:34 AM EDT
"10 Hawt hard body females in daisy duke jeans that is...I stand corrected sir, Good catch my friend. Hard bodied babes in Daisy dukes are much more inspirational... 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
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caj4497 |
10. RE: lone wolf?
Apr 24 2012, 2:55 PM EDT
my best friend and our 2 dogs are going so yeahDo you find this valuable? |
LJ126 |
11. RE: lone wolf?
Apr 24 2012, 3:35 PM EDT
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I wouldn't necessarily say that going it alone is a death sentence. You don't actually need anyone else to survive. Besides, we're all going to die eventually. There's no need to necessarily fear it, because the Grim Reaper cometh for us all.In a way, I believe that it's quite wise to plan and prep as if you will be totally alone, just in case that situation actually happens. The advanced level of preparedness and training required for that situation will make you an even greater asset to a group of less prepared people, and you won't be totally boned if you're caught alone. Besides, no matter what, we can't guarantee that the situation will be optimum when TSHTF. We're probably not going to be sitting at home in our gun room with a loaded shotgun in our lap when the balloon goes up --- we're probably going to be somewhere else, our "team" divided. There might be a component of our survival where we're forced to fend for ourselves. I'd rather be ready for that - both physically and mentally - than dependent on others to live. NOTE: This isn't to say that being alone is ideal. It's not. Life is going to be really crappy and really difficult. But if you're ready for that, you're ready for just about anything, at least in my eyes. 3 out of 3 found this valuable. Do you? |
vampirejediknight |
12. RE: lone wolf?
Apr 24 2012, 4:09 PM EDT
I think it's a bad idea to choose to be alone in a post-apocalyptic situation, and I don't even like people. Personally, I'm a "lone wolf" type, too, but I'm more of a "loner-who-hangs-with-a-group" type. I'm going to be there, cynnical and annoying as ever, but you're worth it, I will be watching your back, and I will be working hard. Do you find this valuable? |
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nissassa |
13. RE: lone wolf?
Apr 25 2012, 1:12 AM EDT
"Nobody said hook up with unknown peoplebrothers brothers listen lol, for the most part we all have something in common and i love that .. everybody needs companionship i get it but like i said again trust must be earn you can just leave your child with anybody.. if getting hurt isnt about toughing it out or pushing thru the pain then what is it? im still gonna stick a gun in your hand even if your leg or arm was just amputated ( godforbid just using examples).. i have no time for pity parties you want comfort you got your wife's shoulders to cry on .. when the shtf i wont have time to worry about who's on my team or not even my boys know this we link up at a certain time and location and if you're not there we keep moving that includes me too.. there's no pity party .. sounds cold but it has to be at least for a while then when things settle down .. you have your camp i have mine... i'll even invite you over for tea and crumpets my daughter would love it lol .. Do you find this valuable? |
redcomrad |
14. RE: lone wolf?
Apr 25 2012, 1:19 AM EDT
I'm planning on loning it also, but i wont completely avoid people i would drift around doing odd jobs, trading, mercenary work, and scavenging. one day i may settle down and become a goat herder or something around those lines.
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nissassa |
15. RE: lone wolf?
Apr 25 2012, 1:25 AM EDT
"The problem with your logic is...your not a loner now during an apocolyptic situation, where things are trying to eat you.mr oh jay i side with your logic but only when things settle down , in the urban community i will not have the need for a barn.. where im settling down at is already gonna be crazy.. so why try and escape.. im gonna make it happen here in the urban community trust me you'll thank me when its time to trade (big cities more sh_t ..) im not trying to be mean.. but its how i run my group and their tough as nails.. but they also know once bitten if you dont eat lead we'll feed it to you.. unless family is watching then we'll wait till the body drops then serve you.. it sounds cold i know but until things settle we're gonna stick to the game plan Do you find this valuable? |
x-wolfhunter |
16. RE: lone wolf?
Apr 25 2012, 6:27 AM EDT
"Being alone is idiotic, what if you roll your ankle? In a group this is a minor injury, it will be good again in a couple of days, but by yourself it's fatal.The only way you'll roll an ankle is if you're being stupid/unobservant, and if you're stupid/unobservant, you would've died long before then. Being alone is not necessarily idiotic. You'll probably go insane and forget how to talk after a few years, but hey - you survived, right? My plan is to hole up in my house, and then if THAT gets overrun (Can't see how) I'll but out for a few months then check back in. 0 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
Filadog |
17. RE: lone wolf?
Apr 25 2012, 6:29 AM EDT
".. but its how i run my group and their tough as nails.. but they also know once bitten if you dont eat lead we'll feed it to you.. unless family is watching then we'll wait till the body drops then serve you.. "After you said " im a loner" I thought you were planing on being a loner and not part of a group? I think a persons best chance at survival would probably being part of a small group of maybe 2-4 people...idealy your family or very close friends. Anything much larger then that and it would probably be hard to have enough supplies for everyone. Going it yourself has some some advantages but they are probably outweighed by the bvious risks Do you find this valuable? |
shadowmancer |
18. RE: lone wolf?
Apr 25 2012, 6:42 AM EDT
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"The only way you'll roll an ankle is if you're being stupid/unobservant, and if you're stupid/unobservant, you would've died long before then.X, if you think thats the only way you can roll an ankle you are in for a nasty surprise. Unless of course you have eyes which can see through solid matter to determine where animals have burrowed and can see density or lower layers below the surface. Most injuries in the wild come from things you cannot see, so being observant won't do jack. A rabbit burrow for example can be up to 50 feet between it's exit points a nice long hollow tube. Can you seee say a layer of wet clay under a few inches of soil? They will all look solid until you step on them. If your place is over run, it will eventually be cleared out, however other suvivors may pick it clean or claim it leaving you without anything. If it is over run the building will be left open and exposed to the elements making it uninhabitable. You said you can't think of how your house will be over run? Well I can easily. It is quite simple to break a door frame with blunt hits. One good hit and its wide open even with deadbolts. I doubt highly that you'll have high grade security doors. Windows are another vunerable point even if they are barred and shuttered the glass can shatter AS2 flatglass, what windows are made of, is quite easy to smash with ones bare hands. Reinforcing the window with lexan would be all well and good but you still have the weakpoint of the 2x4 frame which will eventually break, zombies don't have much else to do but beat at your walls all day. 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
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x-wolfhunter |
19. RE: lone wolf?
Apr 25 2012, 6:52 AM EDT
"The problem with your logic is...your not a loner now during an apocolyptic situation, where things are trying to eat you.I wrote a page a while back about sleeping alone PZD. Funnily enough, I titled it "Sleeping Alone." Check it out: http://www.zombiesurvivalwiki.com/page/Sleeping+Alone Do you find this valuable? |
