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Uzzgub |
40. RE: Scenario-Regulation of Weapons, Drugs and Other Prohibited Substances.
Apr 26 2012, 4:19 PM EDT
"Will you regulate who can consume alcohol?Inside the walls of my fort it would be 1. As long as your "not on the job" that's fine, but only in peoples spare time, 18+ 2. Yes just for quality control and to make sure it doesn't become over produced. 3. Same answer as 1. (no magic mushrooms, or ANY thing stronger then weed) 4. yes same as answer 2. (only weed, nothing else) 5. Still not convinced about opium, I doubt I would have it 6. see answer 5. 7. Guns will be only be carried by people on guard duty, melee weapons at any time, but guns can be kept in your own homes Do you find this valuable? |
brandon_a_boyer |
41. RE: Scenario-Regulation of Weapons, Drugs and Other Prohibited Substances.
Apr 26 2012, 4:35 PM EDT
Like so many things I think that this isn't an issue until it becomes an issue. Personally I think it would be best dealt with on an individual basis. A town drunkard wouldn't last very long, neither would an opium addict. Telling people what they can and cannot do is a luxury that I don't think would exist.Certain firearms may end up being communal. But this would only hold true if was like a cannon or some sort of heavy machine gun. 3 out of 3 found this valuable. Do you? |
Oakspar77777 |
42. RE: Scenario-Regulation of Weapons, Drugs and Other Prohibited Substances.
Apr 26 2012, 7:11 PM EDT
Communial goods with a quartermaster would be the best route to take if your community is very closed. Sure, guns could flow freely, but so long as you were issueing food and ammo, everything would work out fine. 150 is getting large for that type of system, however, as that is a lot of people to keep track of. No too many, but getting close. In an open system, where goods are private and traded among members, the dynamic changes. Still, if you want to keep control over your community, you will want to keep smuggling in or out of the community to a minimium with a good border guard. I am not sure that PA would be the dictator that you think of him. The "smart guy in the room" style of leadership does still work well at 150. You can rule with nothing but charisma, smarts, respect, and good judgement (if you have these traits) up to a few hundred. After 300 or so, however, you will need police/enforcers to maintain stability. Of course, the greater the outside threat, the easier it is to maintain security. Ask Fidel, Kim Jon Ill, or Akmahenajhabibabbaganouche (yes, I know KJI is dead) - an outside enemy is great for keeping your people unified behind you. Do you find this valuable? |
redcomrad |
43. RE: Scenario-Regulation of Weapons, Drugs and Other Prohibited Substances.
Apr 27 2012, 7:46 PM EDT
At a group of only 150 i believe a pirate democracy would work just fine. The president would be their just to make sure things get done and finished, lead the troops into battle, settle disputes, represent the group as a whole in foreign policy, the president would be very much like an old west sheriff. The main decisions of the group though like law making should/would be voted on by the group. A straight up presidential-democracy could probably work decently enough in the few thousands at least for a while, remember Athens which was a pure strait up democracy had i believe something like ten thousands of voters so ya.
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Madurjafro |
44. RE: Scenario-Regulation of Weapons, Drugs and Other Prohibited Substances.
Apr 27 2012, 8:59 PM EDT
1. Yes 16-18 minimum age limit just for the fact about their bodies not being developed enough2. A License will have to be given simply stating that is it a clean environment producing drinkable alcohol and not some poison 3. For Marijuana I would suggest only allowing it to be smoked inside houses. Mushrooms are a no-no because hallucinating during a fight cannot end well 4. Since Hemp has quite alot of uses, Marijuana may be grown in large quantities just for the material, a small portion will be taken and sold to the general public. As far as I know, you can create rope from it and make insulating blocks out of it, not to mention clothing. 5. While opium is a drug which has the ability to destroy the person, it may also help a person when done correctly. Only doctors are allowed to administer opium to patients before anything painful like surgery or amputation 6. Yes, The production will be quite small, like I said only for medicinal use by a professional, and I doubt the Doctor is gonna start giving out injections like free candy. The production will be heavily monitered to make sure non spills out 7. Nope, anything military grade will be kept in an armory upto a point. If we have a militia of 30 and we have 50 M16 rifles, then 30 will be kept and the rest will be available for buying. Open carry will be allowed and should deter crime, I sit on the fence about Concealed carry however. This is all assuming that by some sort of wizardy I managed to become leader in this Post-apoc world. But its a nice insight into different aspects of s society and I always love these Scenarios. Keep up the good work! Do you find this valuable? |
Sharpie41 |
45. RE: Scenario-Regulation of Weapons, Drugs and Other Prohibited Substances.
Apr 28 2012, 4:59 PM EDT
How come you're on the fence with concealing weapons?
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redcomrad |
46. RE: Scenario-Regulation of Weapons, Drugs and Other Prohibited Substances.
Apr 28 2012, 5:34 PM EDT
"How come you're on the fence with concealing weapons?"PSSS *Whispers*, hes a liberal.... 3 out of 3 found this valuable. Do you? |
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Sharpie41 |
47. RE: Scenario-Regulation of Weapons, Drugs and Other Prohibited Substances.
Apr 28 2012, 7:22 PM EDT
"PSSS *Whispers*, hes a liberal...."I don't think so, he's okay with open carry Do you find this valuable? |
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brandon_a_boyer |
48. RE: Scenario-Regulation of Weapons, Drugs and Other Prohibited Substances.
Apr 28 2012, 8:16 PM EDT
I don't see how Political Affiliation has anything to do with the subject. I'm a leftest and I am opposed to open carry but in favor of concealed carry.
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Sharpie41 |
49. RE: Scenario-Regulation of Weapons, Drugs and Other Prohibited Substances.
Apr 28 2012, 10:48 PM EDT
"I don't see how Political Affiliation has anything to do with the subject. I'm a leftest and I am opposed to open carry but in favor of concealed carry."I'm on the fence with open carry, mostly due to everyone else being "omg he's got a gun!!!" and gun grabs Do you find this valuable? |
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brandon_a_boyer |
50. RE: Scenario-Regulation of Weapons, Drugs and Other Prohibited Substances.
Apr 29 2012, 12:14 AM EDT
"I'm on the fence with open carry, mostly due to everyone else being "omg he's got a gun!!!" and gun grabs"My big issue with open carry spawns from an evening working at home depot. There was a dad who had a glock on his hip while shopping with his two daughters. It made a ton of the other customers uncomfortable. I made some small talk and apparently he was part of a local group that open carries with the hope that law enforcement will say something. He was well aware that it made people uncomfortable. Which to me is a dick move. You can't brandish a gun but you can have it openly exposed, which to some people can be just as intimidating. Do you find this valuable? |
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Sharpie41 |
51. RE: Scenario-Regulation of Weapons, Drugs and Other Prohibited Substances.
Apr 29 2012, 12:41 AM EDT
"My big issue with open carry spawns from an evening working at home depot. There was a dad who had a glock on his hip while shopping with his two daughters. It made a ton of the other customers uncomfortable.So the "omg he's got a gun!!!" also affects you? (Worries is the wrong word) I agree, but often times open carry is the only option, in Canada I think open carry is the only option (For police, CIT security etc) Do you find this valuable? |
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brandon_a_boyer |
52. RE: Scenario-Regulation of Weapons, Drugs and Other Prohibited Substances.
Apr 29 2012, 12:59 AM EDT
"So the "omg he's got a gun!!!" also affects you? (Worries is the wrong word)For police and other people who carry guns as part of their job it doesn't bug me. It doesn't personally bother me, but it bothers other people, and that bothers me. Do you find this valuable? |
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Sharpie41 |
53. RE: Scenario-Regulation of Weapons, Drugs and Other Prohibited Substances.
Apr 29 2012, 1:04 AM EDT
"For police and other people who carry guns as part of their job it doesn't bug me. It doesn't personally bother me, but it bothers other people, and that bothers me."But isn't it your job to protect your family? I wouldn't be bothered to see someone carry, and I would pity those who would be, but it's inevitable that someone would be bothered, so therefore I would prefer to conceal Do you find this valuable? |
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redcomrad |
54. RE: Scenario-Regulation of Weapons, Drugs and Other Prohibited Substances.
Apr 29 2012, 6:04 AM EDT
In my opinion in a settlement people should get used to seeing a bunch of guys carrying around rifles and such just like in the wild west. i would actually encourage it mainly it is to make it so people are less pussies when guns are around and when we get attacked by raiders/enemy they wont just up and run and hide from the sight of them having guns, instead they will get their own guns and show a strong show of strength.
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11ACRBlackhorse |
55. RE: Scenario-Regulation of Weapons, Drugs and Other Prohibited Substances.
Apr 30 2012, 8:42 PM EDT
"For police and other people who carry guns as part of their job it doesn't bug me. It doesn't personally bother me, but it bothers other people, and that bothers me."So you worry what other people think and feel? lol Now if it was your family, friends, boss, or anyone that has a effect on your life, then okay. But anyone else needs to get a grip on life and deal with it. And worrying over people you don't know, that are worrying about legal carry, is a wasted effort. If someone has an issue with me carrying my gun, they can go home and hide from life. Or they can grow up and deal. Now to the thread. People will be allowed to grow, make, consume, and or trade it. But as soon as they harm others with deadly products or by using it and doing bad things. They will be punished according to the transgression. If parents want their kids to smoke weed, drink booze, eat shroons, and or other things. That is okay by me, but again if it kills their kid they will pay for it. If they can't feed themselves I guess they will just starve or take what ever a soft heart gives them. Now group security and safety is a must and all guards will be required to be clean while on duty or standby. Now on their off time they can do what ever. Guns will be personal weapons and I will encourage open carry. But if they don't want to then okay too. Any weapons the group/colony owns will be in the armory for issue or sell/trade to the group/colony first and outsiders second. Just my opinion and thoughts. 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
IrishHitman |
56. RE: Scenario-Regulation of Weapons, Drugs and Other Prohibited Substances.
Apr 30 2012, 9:49 PM EDT
Open carry is waaaaaay better than concealed carry...
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11ACRBlackhorse |
57. RE: Scenario-Regulation of Weapons, Drugs and Other Prohibited Substances.
Apr 30 2012, 10:00 PM EDT
"Open carry is waaaaaay better than concealed carry..."I like both and think both should be allowed. Leave it to the carrying do it how they choose if at all. This over sensitivity of being scared of objects is getting out of hand. As it is you can't tell who has a illegal gun now, hidden in a pocket or waist band. So why be more nervous over law abiding citizens being armed against those criminally inclined types. Ya I know it's all about how they feel and what the so called smart experts tell them. And what the press hypes for ratings and or agenda pushing. Do you find this valuable? |
Filadog |
58. RE: Scenario-Regulation of Weapons, Drugs and Other Prohibited Substances.
May 1 2012, 8:32 AM EDT
"This over sensitivity of being scared of objects is getting out of hand.Today if I saw a regular civilian opening carrying a gun in public where it is out of place it would make me very uncomfortable. Say if I was in the local grocery store and saw a guy down the aisle with a colt 45 on his hip I would probably turn around and leave the store and call 911. In my state this would be illegal [why I would call 911] but even if it wasn't I would still feel uncomfortable seeing a person packing heat at the local grocery store Rightly or wrongly I would precieve a person like this to be a potential danger. I would wonder if he was a person that was going to go on a shooting spree or just some delusional Walter Mitty type who was worried about getting mugged in the frozen food section. Ether way a strange and armed person that could be a threat to me. Ive been to gun shows where some of the dealers are open carring and I don't like that either. You know it's not about them thinking they need a gun to protect themselves at the show but more a variation of Mall Ninjaism of them trying to look cool because they have a pistol on. I have nothing against concealed carry but when you go about in public with a gun out in the open you are just looking for attention and shouting "Look At Me". Its the People like this with guns that make me uncomfortable not the Guns themselves From a tactical point of view I think kind of stupid to advertise to potential bad guys that you have a gun Do you find this valuable? |
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redcomrad |
59. RE: Scenario-Regulation of Weapons, Drugs and Other Prohibited Substances.
May 1 2012, 9:35 AM EDT
"its a strong deterrent effect in my opinion, if you were a raider say had a group of 20-30 and you saw a settlement with say +100 people and each one of them has an Automatic rifle, but then you saw another settlement same amount of people but nobody seems to carry guns except say a sheriff and a couple deputies, who would you raid? open carry allows people to access their guns in a minutes notice, this would be very important in a settlement that had some type of minute man system they could get ready much more quickly. Makes me feel safe being in a room of people all of them packing and each one of them knowing the other is packing, make people a little more polite to others. In modern day society i can see your point people a lot of the times only open carry to show off and look cool but Post SHTF i think it would be necessary and common, at least in the USA that is. "An armed society is a polite society" Do you find this valuable? |
