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Dragonslayer13
Dragonslayer13
landscape defenses natural or man-made
May 8 2012, 11:13 PM EDT | Post edited: May 8 2012, 11:13 PM EDT
I mean slopes, hills, fences, walls, etc. 2  out of 4 found this valuable. Do you?    
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Zee-Man
Zee-Man
1. RE: landscape defenses natural or man-made
May 8 2012, 11:26 PM EDT | Post edited: May 8 2012, 11:26 PM EDT
OK, which do you want to talk about first?
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Dragonslayer13
Dragonslayer13
2. RE: landscape defenses natural or man-made
May 9 2012, 12:12 AM EDT | Post edited: May 9 2012, 12:12 AM EDT
doesn't really matter Zee-Man.Whatever you feel like 0  out of 2 found this valuable. Do you?    
Oakspar77777
Oakspar77777
3. RE: landscape defenses natural or man-made
May 9 2012, 5:14 PM EDT | Post edited: May 9 2012, 5:14 PM EDT
I believe that Z was actually suggesting you be a bit more specific in the topic of your thread. What were you hoping to discuss, the virtues of natural verses artificial barriers? Fencing materials or construction? How natural terrain sould shift the needs of and for barriers?

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nightcreeper78
nightcreeper78
4. RE: landscape defenses natural or man-made
May 9 2012, 7:52 PM EDT | Post edited: May 9 2012, 7:52 PM EDT
Get a general idea of what you are trying to achieve. A combination of both is usually the best, but you need to decide if you are going for a barrier that looks impenetrable or is your goal to remain undetectable, and if so, from what? 2  out of 3 found this valuable. Do you?    
Dragonslayer13
Dragonslayer13
5. RE: landscape defenses natural or man-made
May 10 2012, 8:47 PM EDT | Post edited: May 10 2012, 8:47 PM EDT
Sorry that wasn't specific I'm new to talking on the internet PERIOD.
What I was hoping to discuss was different terrain as a defense,and
man-made structures to defend thy self from zombies.
again, sorry.
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shadowmancer
shadowmancer
6. RE: landscape defenses natural or man-made
May 23 2012, 12:29 PM EDT | Post edited: May 23 2012, 12:31 PM EDT
One of the layers of defence for my chosen location is already in place, it is a series of stone piles, ditches and mounds which were constructed by the MNR to slow and lessen forest fires. There are several of these for several hundred kilometers away from my location so they would remain unnoticed because they are common features. Another layer of natural defences is plant life, mainly poison oak, poison ivy and stinging nettles. These plants are harmless to animals but will stop living humans from choosing that path. I propogate the brush to block some access so I can controle what ways you can access the area.

My point is this, use defences that will be able to be consealed or will be unnoticed as your first line of defence.
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AlphaOneFour
AlphaOneFour
7. RE: landscape defenses natural or man-made
May 23 2012, 12:47 PM EDT | Post edited: May 23 2012, 12:47 PM EDT
Well, hills aren't going to be much use as a defence by themselves, seeing as how the zeds can just walk over them, but as natural high points in the landscape, they're good to set up a watchtower on.

Concrete walls, chainlink fences and brick-and-mortar walls will hod them back for a while, but looking at the lie of the land is extremely helpful too- it's no good making an ultra-secure base with loads of long-range guns in it when you're in a small bowl and can't see more that fifty meters.

Ditches, especially if augmented with spikes, would prove a good defence and deterrent, but even they will need regular checking for wear and tear
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Dragonslayer13
Dragonslayer13
8. RE: landscape defenses natural or man-made
Jun 12 2012, 11:59 PM EDT | Post edited: Jun 12 2012, 11:59 PM EDT
Alpha,I disagree with your opinion on hills.If their steep enough a zombie either
couldn't walk up, or trying to,would fall on their back.
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BamaChris
BamaChris
9. RE: landscape defenses natural or man-made
Jun 13 2012, 12:04 AM EDT | Post edited: Jun 13 2012, 12:04 AM EDT
I have planted holly bushes around the windows and decks at my house. Whether zed can feel or not, he can lose a pound or two of flesh in them. They will also act as a deterrent to thieves. 2  out of 2 found this valuable. Do you?    
DevilNuts
DevilNuts
10. RE: landscape defenses natural or man-made
Jun 13 2012, 12:25 AM EDT | Post edited: Jun 13 2012, 12:25 AM EDT
"I have planted holly bushes around the windows and decks at my house. Whether zed can feel or not, he can lose a pound or two of flesh in them. They will also act as a deterrent to thieves. "
Good call. I'd be a big fan of concertina or barbed wire tanglefoot draped all across the lawn. Zed can be tripped, tangled, or even immobilized as he thrashes about.

...Tie on a couple of cans with string and you have an alarm system.
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Dragonslayer13
Dragonslayer13
11. RE: landscape defenses natural or man-made
Jun 13 2012, 12:35 AM EDT | Post edited: Jun 13 2012, 12:42 AM EDT
All of my defense is pretty much natural.The East side is the continuation of a road,but the road in that direction is a long steep slope.So a lot of zeds won't be able to come up(except one or two neighbors).
One idea is tie raw meat to a tree in a bluff but in a branch close to the edge of the bluff.A zed would go off the bluff, going for the meat.
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wantmarmite
wantmarmite
12. RE: landscape defenses natural or man-made
Jun 13 2012, 12:36 AM EDT | Post edited: Jun 13 2012, 12:36 AM EDT
I should try to plant stingy nettles in the cracks in the sidewalk out front. Keep the drunks away from the front here. 1  out of 1 found this valuable. Do you?    
AlphaOneFour
AlphaOneFour
13. RE: landscape defenses natural or man-made
Jun 13 2012, 4:53 AM EDT | Post edited: Jun 13 2012, 4:53 AM EDT
Brambles would be better, they're tough b*stards, and they bear fruit which you can make into preserves.

Thread wire through hedges, makes them much more difficult to get through..
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Zombot
Zombot
14. RE: landscape defenses natural or man-made
Jun 13 2012, 5:39 PM EDT | Post edited: Jun 13 2012, 5:39 PM EDT
One thing to keep in mind, though it varies (maybe?) state to state.

Setting up 'traps,' which barbwires hiding in hedges might be considered, is illegal, as it could prove hazardous to emergency response crews of any/every variety...

Just something to keep in mind, pre-poc.
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wantmarmite
wantmarmite
15. RE: landscape defenses natural or man-made
Jun 13 2012, 8:08 PM EDT | Post edited: Jun 13 2012, 8:08 PM EDT
Wouldn't that be something you build/put up after SHTF? 1  out of 1 found this valuable. Do you?    
CallsignPyro
CallsignPyro
16. RE: landscape defenses natural or man-made
Jun 14 2012, 3:19 PM EDT | Post edited: Jun 14 2012, 3:19 PM EDT
I've been looking into a buildings defenses for awhile. Thick, dense hedges with razor wire running through it at neck, armpit, groin, & ankle levels or running in a crossed pattern would prevent both zeds & theives (I got stuck in a razor wire prank my friend pulled stuff will slice you open like no ones buisness).Pit falls with metal or sharpened wooden poles works very well, as well as layering the defenses, best one I could think of was hedges, pit fall or ditch with vertical walls, chain link fence & then sniper towers (if you have the ability to make or find suitable sniper spots). Just remember that no defense is perfect. 1  out of 1 found this valuable. Do you?    
AlphaOneFour
AlphaOneFour
17. RE: landscape defenses natural or man-made
Jun 14 2012, 6:12 PM EDT | Post edited: Jun 14 2012, 6:12 PM EDT
Whilst I heartily advocate setting up a mesh of razor wire all around one's BOL/base of operations, I have to clear up what I meant by threading wire through hedges, I meant regular wire, of about 1-2mm diameter, which would not have barbs, protrusions or sharp bits, but which would seriously inhibit movement through said hedge. This makes it easier to get hold of than barbed wire, as you can find spools of the stuff I'm thinking of at a large DIY store like B&Q or Focus, making the threading a day or two's work including attaining it, and then you're set for a while. Of course, you'd need galvanised metal for any sort of long-term plan. 1  out of 1 found this valuable. Do you?    
CallsignPyro
CallsignPyro
18. RE: landscape defenses natural or man-made
Jun 14 2012, 10:45 PM EDT | Post edited: Jun 14 2012, 10:45 PM EDT
"Whilst I heartily advocate setting up a mesh of razor wire all around one's BOL/base of operations, I have to clear up what I meant by threading wire through hedges, I meant regular wire, of about 1-2mm diameter, which would not have barbs, protrusions or sharp bits, but which would seriously inhibit movement through said hedge. This makes it easier to get hold of than barbed wire, as you can find spools of the stuff I'm thinking of at a large DIY store like B&Q or Focus, making the threading a day or two's work including attaining it, and then you're set for a while. Of course, you'd need galvanised metal for any sort of long-term plan."
Regular 12 & 18 guage wire is to easy to cut, it will slow down the frist few but then they will know to pull out a knive or cutters. Barbed & razor are alil harder & concertina wire is a real b*tch to cut.
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john2567
19. RE: landscape defenses natural or man-made
Jun 14 2012, 11:37 PM EDT | Post edited: Jun 14 2012, 11:37 PM EDT
As ive been reading through this thread I notice everyones hoping around from the threaded bushes and pits with spikes. To deter normal people simply put down a thick razor bush like say Holly as mention earlier or some other razor bush and run barbered wire of some sort through it. But put it over a pit filled with metal or wood spikes at the bottom. Have razor wire going from one side of the pit, through the bushes, to the other side suspending the bushes over the pit. Do you find this valuable?    
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