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thejanguy
thejanguy
Sailboats
May 20 2012, 7:12 AM EDT | Post edited: May 20 2012, 7:12 AM EDT
I have been thinking that the best survival strategy for me and my family is going out to sea. We own a 29 foot long NF sailboat that we could sail in shifts. We could either stay out to sea or find a small zombie free island to settle down on.

Equipment on the boat includes:
- a VHF radio
- food and water for a few days
- a small first aid kit
- a set of basic tools (screwdrivers, a hammer, knifes, etc.)
- bolt cutters
- an axe
- various charts of the surrounding area as well as equipment needed for navigation like a compass
- a kerosene stove and alcohol to burn in it
- blankets and pillows
- our sailing clothes (waterproof jackets, pants and boots as well as gloves and hats)
- emergency signaling equipment (flares, horns, etc.)
- a sonar fish finder
- 2 fishing rods and related equipment
- a GPS
- waterproof matches
- a lighter
- a life raft
- 2 binoculars
- 2 fire extinguishers
- spare parts for the engine
- a bunch of standard sailboat stuff like ropes, fenders and anchors.

I would obviously bring more stuff from land like clothes, more food and other things necessary for survival. What do you guys think I should ad to the equipment on my boat to maximize our chances of survival.
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WaterBoy75
WaterBoy75
1. RE: Sailboats
May 20 2012, 2:49 PM EDT | Post edited: May 20 2012, 2:49 PM EDT
I have been wanting to learn to sail a boat for years, nothing big but useful for a fishing trip. Do you find this valuable?    
thejanguy
thejanguy
2. RE: Sailboats
May 20 2012, 3:58 PM EDT | Post edited: May 20 2012, 3:58 PM EDT
"I have been wanting to learn to sail a boat for years, nothing big but useful for a fishing trip. "
Its not very hard to learn, you just need to start off with a really small boat that you can easily sail and that is simple to rig. After that you can work your way up to whatever size you need/can afford.
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Oakspar77777
Oakspar77777
3. RE: Sailboats
May 20 2012, 7:20 PM EDT | Post edited: May 20 2012, 7:20 PM EDT
They cost a good deal, but a desalinator will add a great deal of life to your time at sea if needed and reduce the needs to go to land. A good water filter will be good as well to reduce strain on your system (if a hand pump) and when you run up into fresh water rivers (or go to shore to fill the tanks).

Of course, a good stockpile of food stores on the boat will do you some good. Carbs (rice/pasta), vitimins (canned fruit, Tang, etc), and some fishing gear.
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FrankLeeDeRainged
FrankLeeDeRainged
4. RE: Sailboats
May 21 2012, 10:31 AM EDT | Post edited: May 21 2012, 10:32 AM EDT
there is only one serious drawback to the bugging out to sea scenario and that is the weather. If the Zombie apocalypse should happen to occur on a nice summers day with light offshore airs you'll be fine then? And if it isn't. . .

Then there is making landfalls on islands that you have 'found'. . . That would be places you have neither charts nor pilot books for?

I'm sure you are a competent sailor for certain types of sailing but as soon as I see that your list doesn't include survival/immersion suits then it seems likely that there are a lot of the sea's . . . moods . . . that you are less experienced with. I could be wrong, the harnesses (especially for children) and foul weather gear could be among your 'standard boat kit'.

It just seems that a lot of boat type plans are along the lines of 'Your all gonna get eaten while we're on a yachting holiday' and overlook the inconvenient fact that you are trading one possibly hostile environment for an 'eventually' certainly hostile one!

However I wish you well and recommend you have a look at Adlard Cole's 'Heavy Weather Sailing' also Susan Casey's 'The Wave' has some very interesting idea's about apparent trends in oceanographic conditions.
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Zee-Man
Zee-Man
5. RE: Sailboats
May 21 2012, 1:50 PM EDT | Post edited: May 21 2012, 1:50 PM EDT
Where are the primary and back-up life preservers/jackets?
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Oakspar77777
Oakspar77777
6. RE: Sailboats
May 21 2012, 4:18 PM EDT | Post edited: May 21 2012, 4:18 PM EDT
Also, do not neglect the weaponry. While the zed might be on shore, you will need them for landfalls and piratry - there is no hiding a BOL that is boat on the ocean and plenty of boats out there will see your's as an easy score.

You want to get good at very long range shots from your deck - picking off crew from range will discourage pursuit and a few rounds through the hull between swells (so that it is below the flatwater line) will slow them quickly.

Actually, a boat is the only time I can think of where a .50BMG or .338LM would not be ridiculous overkill as a sniper's gun (post apoc - I know our boys use both regularly in the open mountains of Afghanistan).
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Zresistance
Zresistance
7. RE: Sailboats
Oct 3 2012, 10:32 AM EDT | Post edited: Oct 3 2012, 10:32 AM EDT
I would sujest a solar powed trickle charver for your battery as well as a dingy for quick shore recons. Also a set of flags for communicating with other boaters .. where pirates might be a problem mkst boaters stick togeather ..the guys who go all pirate will most likly not be the best at sea ...also watch water world. Few odd ideas in that ..like haveing a fast way to raise mainsale .. not sure of your set up but a rollerferling (sp) isagreat way to get a sail fast. I have one on my 25 hunter and its saves me a few times when under power and the outbored failed. Not sure how much rope you bave but i currently carry double what i need incase i have to replace my main :)I or worse .. Do you find this valuable?    
MrK9114
MrK9114
8. RE: Sailboats
Jan 4 2013, 5:17 PM EST | Post edited: Jan 4 2013, 5:17 PM EST
"Also, do not neglect the weaponry. While the zed might be on shore, you will need them for landfalls and piratry - there is no hiding a BOL that is boat on the ocean and plenty of boats out there will see your's as an easy score.

You want to get good at very long range shots from your deck - picking off crew from range will discourage pursuit and a few rounds through the hull between swells (so that it is below the flatwater line) will slow them quickly.

Actually, a boat is the only time I can think of where a .50BMG or .338LM would not be ridiculous overkill as a sniper's gun (post apoc - I know our boys use both regularly in the open mountains of Afghanistan). "
You should get marine coated weapons maybe the mossberg Just In Case shotgun, comes with marine coating to prevent rust.
338 is overkill, something like 300 win mag could work for pirate standoffs.
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FrankLeeDeRainged
FrankLeeDeRainged
9. RE: Sailboats
Jan 4 2013, 6:24 PM EST | Post edited: Jan 4 2013, 6:24 PM EST
"You should get marine coated weapons maybe the mossberg Just In Case shotgun, comes with marine coating to prevent rust.
338 is overkill, something like 300 win mag could work for pirate standoffs."
You don't like it, do you Rocco, the storm? Show it your gun, why don't you? If it doesn't stop, shoot it.
- Key Largo (1948)
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MrK9114
MrK9114
10. RE: Sailboats
Jan 4 2013, 6:35 PM EST | Post edited: Jan 4 2013, 6:35 PM EST
"You don't like it, do you Rocco, the storm? Show it your gun, why don't you? If it doesn't stop, shoot it.
- Key Largo (1948)
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Ha ha some John Huston humour.
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