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jamesgoddam |
my bob constructive critisism please
May 22 2012, 8:06 AM EDT
BOB Range Weapons: barnett cobra slingshot (backup)(50 pack of marbles, 50 pack of cheap ball bearings). sig sauer 1911 stainless( 15 clips 150 rounds of hollow point .45 bullets). pole spear could be used but will stick into zombies. Melee Weapons: cold steel drop forged warhammer ,SOG slim jim folding knife as backup, swiss army multi-tool could be used as second backup, pole spear, hairdressing scissors if things get dire Food & Water:1 plastic juice bottle (empty for refilling) plastic army grade canteen filled with water, 1 pack of m&m’s 1 army ration pack (includes energy bars,meals for 2 days, and a can of baked beans, 1 vacuum sealed assorted vegetables. Lighting: 2 mini maglite torches (4 extra batteries), 1 45 pack of slow burn candles (from ikea) Information 1 saint John of god first aid handbook, old version of the SAS survival guide (slightly more weight for mountains more information), 1 geological map of surrounding area Communication: 1 CB radio (other one at colony) small mirror 1911 could be used if needed Survival (Misc):swiss army knife includes tweezers, nail clippers, fork, cutting blade, sawing blade, compass, file and a can opener. steripen uv filter Clothing: wetsuit (Quicksilver cypher series) diving fins ( marnes volo power scuba fins) 1 eclipse dive mask 2 pairs of underwear, holster ( blackhawk special ops ), 1 pair of punch boxing wraps, 1 thick hiking hoodie, 1 pair of hiking boots, 4 pairs of woolen socks (can be cut into really warm gloves too) 2 cheap digital camo bandannas Camp Kitchen: swiss army knife, pan made from peice of wire and baked bean can (I’ll be mostly cooking my catch over a spit or in the al foil) roll of aluminum foil 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you?
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jamesgoddam |
1. RE: my bob constructive critisism please
May 22 2012, 8:08 AM EDT
Fire Starting: 1 flint and steel, 2 large packets matches (can be waterproofed with wax from the candles to a degree) batteries from radio can be used to start a fire, steel woolEntertainment: 1 pack of small playing cards, six dice to play yahtzee Hunting/Fishing: 1 telescopic pole spear, 2 spare spearheads, 1 roll of snare-wire, diving mask and snorkel, fins, knife for abalone (mmmm) australian fish guide book Optics: 1 pair of cheap (but good) binoculars from my local army surplus store Personal Hygiene: (sealed inside a large PB jar plastic) 2 large bars of soap, gilette multi-blade razor a small jar of dettol, a pair of sharp hairdressing scissors, nail clippers Shelter: 2 parachord bracelets, fold up hammock a pack of zipties, Maintenance/Tools: basic gun cleaning kit, knife sharpening rod, warhammer for breaking and entering, cheap harness for getting into buildings parachord bracelets, small pen blowtorch w soldering attachment, rope cutting attachment Repair Kit/Supplies: an 100 pack of zipties needle and thread (20 needles 10 spool’s of thread) 1 roll duct tape 1 small roll of plumbers tape, stick of surfboard putty, gas for blowtorch First Aid Kit: also in PB jar,2 bandages 4m 1 pack of band aids, alcohol disinfectant, gauze, 2 packs of painkillers Carrier or Bag: A.L.I.C.E bag with thick kidney pads, waist straps, and frame thingo Do you find this valuable? |
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jamesgoddam |
2. RE: my bob constructive critisism please
May 22 2012, 8:10 AM EDT
i do not own all of this stuff but i plan to
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Zee-Man |
3. RE: my bob constructive critisism please
May 22 2012, 3:19 PM EDT
" 2 large packets matches (can be waterproofed with wax from the candles to a degree) "Don't rely on can be. Go ahead and waterproof them now. Since you have quite a few things for hunting/fishing it looks like you want to be prepared for spending some time away from home (or BOL, etc). I think you might lay in some more food stuffs for those days when the fish just ain't bitin'. Otherwise you seem to have a great foundation laid out. I'm sure you will refine it over time. Just keep it in mind every time you read something about BOBs. Do you find this valuable? |
AlphaOneFour |
4. RE: my bob constructive critisism please
May 22 2012, 3:54 PM EDT
You appear to be planning to fish. That spear's nice and all, but being able to set a few lures overnight is great. Hooks and line are cheap and wonderful.I would add a machete, and a couple of utility knives as far as bladed implements go, and a water bladder or two, as well as a way of purifying water (tablets, filters, bleach etc). Condoms. Both for water carrying and the original purpose. What country/state are you in? A handgun and slingshot are all well and good, but a shotgun or rifle is better. I like the cards and dice, there's hundreds of games you can play. A little more food would do wonders. All of the supermarkets are likely to be cleaned out, so being able to survive more than three days on your stockpile is a very good thing indeed. And now a few questions: >Do you plan on wearing your wetsuit at all times? >Is your pole spear realistically going to be useful in combat? >Can you carry all of this lot if need be? Do you find this valuable? |
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jamesgoddam |
5. RE: my bob constructive critisism please
May 23 2012, 7:40 AM EDT
actually the spear is for spearfishing under water there are alyways fish. (i live in a coastal town off western australia some of the best fishing and spearfishing in australia)i do not plan on wearing my wetsuit at all times and i understand that i will be at risk while putting it on. no the spear would be next to useless in combat, the only way you could kill a zombie with it is to get very close. i have not carried and do not know if i could carry all of these things together. i plan on spending a lot of time on the coast beacause the visibility on the sand is easy to see raider/undead. Do you find this valuable? |
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AlphaOneFour |
6. RE: my bob constructive critisism please
May 24 2012, 7:46 AM EDT
I hear that gun lawn in Oz are fairly strict, like here in the UK. In which case, it's best to be prepared to defenc yourself. Some sharp pointed pieces of metal hammered into wooden poles make crude spears, and you could use the machete as a weapon.I like your plan about fishing for food, and assume you have other fishing gear. I reckon all that stuff wouldnt come to more than 10 or 15 kilos, so shouldn't be too much of a problem with a good pack, but it sounds like you're planning to bug in anyway, so that'd only be of use in an emergency. Any plans for food other than fish? Do you find this valuable? |
OutlawJames |
7. RE: my bob constructive critisism please
May 24 2012, 10:41 AM EDT
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Just an idea. If you already have a plastic bottle, switch your canteen to and old surplus steel or aluminum...or as the brits say Aluminium canteen. This can then also be used as a makeshift coffee or teapot, as it can be put on a fire without it distorting like plastic.(yes you can boil water in a plastic bottle, but it ruins the bottle). That along with your old bean can can be used for your entire meal at one time. Another thinig, This is my personal opinion, always allow for twice the food you think you'll need, If you are planning on being out 2 days allow for 4, 3 days allow for 6. Why? Because something always comes up. and there is nothing worse than running out of something when you could have carried enough. Do you find this valuable? |
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jamesgoddam |
8. RE: my bob constructive critisism please
May 24 2012, 10:47 AM EDT
yeah the gun laws in oz are really tight.i do have a cheap collapsable recurve bow but a gun is better. but since i live in the country alot of the farmers around here have guns. i dont plan to bring any fishing gear with me beacause when you spearfish, there are always fish in the water wheter they are good trophy fish or not. my planned colony is a place that is full of rabbits. rabbits are a good food scource beacause they reproduce like ... well rabbits. im also going to add 12 20 pound jelly rubbers for making slingshots/ making/fixing spears Do you find this valuable? |
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OutlawJames |
9. RE: my bob constructive critisism please
May 24 2012, 1:05 PM EDT
Something else you might add, A spool of snare wire. To make snares for Rabbits.You may be able to get rabbits with your slingshot, but unfortunately you have to be there to do it. A dozen or so snares set up along runs frequented by rabbits can yeild you a few rabbits while you are doing other things. Just a daily trip to each of them and it can supply you with extra food. Do you find this valuable? |
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AlphaOneFour |
10. RE: my bob constructive critisism please
May 24 2012, 4:24 PM EDT
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Funny you should mention mess cans. I have my emergency bare-bones kit contained within two stacking mess cans, so that it's self-contained, and the containers themselves protect the contents. A good mess tin will see you through thick and thin, and can be used for almost anything. You could even eat from it.EDIT: Regarding snare wire, I like to make snares with a single strand of wire made up of lots of smaller snare wires twisted together, like a rope. This makes it stronger, and it doen't cut into the animal it catches, meaning that the animal won't be hurt as much, thus less adrenaline in its body, so more tender meat. Do you find this valuable? |
Braydonn |
11. RE: my bob constructive critisism please
May 24 2012, 4:57 PM EDT
Hello there James, good to see another Aussie on the site.If a lot of the farmers in your area have guns, then I would probably steer clear of their properties, they're going to be aggressive in defense of their land. Another thing, try to pack all of these items into a bag and see how heavy it is. I recently went on a camping trip and took along my BOB to see if I could walk long distances with it. Turns the back pack I was using severely digs into my shoulders whilst walking! Test all the things in your BOB for faults now, so you're not suffering later. Do you find this valuable? |
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jamesgoddam |
12. RE: my bob constructive critisism please
May 26 2012, 4:54 AM EDT
i do have a spool of snare-wire in my bob.and i also am going to add a small marroning/crayfishing noose for catching some yummy crustations Do you find this valuable? |
