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BigLoki |
1. RE: Keep it simple
May 22 2012, 12:36 PM EDT
Best of luck to you.
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2. RE: Keep it simple
May 22 2012, 1:04 PM EDT
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Cal, have you considered taking a more proactive stance regarding the survival of yourself and your family in an emergency? I'd be happy to show you how your current plan is faulty and will probably get you killed, if you like.
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BigLoki |
3. RE: Keep it simple
May 22 2012, 1:29 PM EDT
Yeah, I was trying to keep it simple with my response, in the spirit of the thread and all... hahahaActually, I was being a douche, and I apologize, just one of those days so far. I would urge you to take a peak around, and look at some of the other plans. You will likely spot on your own, what we would undoubtedly take 30-40 posts to tell you. Start with the basics, Food, Water, Shelter, Safety... keep in mind that fuel will not be unlimited, nor will the roads be guaranteed open, ect. There's a lot of good information here, and some pretty sharp minds. Enjoy the site. 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
Carnack |
4. RE: Keep it simple
May 22 2012, 1:37 PM EDT
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Have you considered your food situation? How much food can you carry to get you through lean times?Your shelter situation? Your clothing will need to able to handle all seasons and not just regional norms. What if your truck breaks down? Do you have the parts to fix it? What if it runs out of gas? How much fuel can you carry? What of ambush? Trucks are not bulletproof and and good ambush will leave you compromised. What about winter? If your truck is snowed in how will you sustain yourself? Simplicity has its perks but not when it's simple because you cut out the little details that are a must for self-sustainence. There are a multitude of realistic ways for your plan to kill you and anyone else you bring along. Sheltering in place may have its issues but stability is not one of them. Do you find this valuable? |
timberrattler |
5. RE: Keep it simple
May 22 2012, 1:55 PM EDT
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"I would get my self some guns, a lot of ammo. and a pick-up truck and drive. simple and safe"^My new plan!^ Of course a few days into this plan you might start getting thirsty. Bottled water is a beautiful thing bro. A beautiful thing. Something as simple as water is often overlooked but is way more important to your survival than guns and ammo. Do you find this valuable? |
AlphaOneFour |
6. RE: Keep it simple
May 22 2012, 3:16 PM EDT
And I will ride after you one my push bike, drinking water from my camelbak, and when you die of thirst I will take everything you own. Beautifully simple.
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Cal_Sarrion |
7. RE: Keep it simple
May 22 2012, 3:19 PM EDT
"I would get my self some guns, a lot of ammo. and a pick-up truck and drive. simple and safe"alright. all you have good things. i ll revise. ill gt one of those big box covers for my truck, ill get coolers and even solar panels. ill bring water, as well as un perishable food. i will find spare parts for my truck, and i will custimize it so that it has better armor. i will stick to highways so that i pass gas stations. anything else to add? Do you find this valuable? |
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BigLoki |
8. RE: Keep it simple
May 22 2012, 3:38 PM EDT
"alright. all you have good things. i ll revise.Yeah, but that's not exactly what we were getting at... Highways may not be an option. If SHTF, the pumps at the stations won't work, even if they are not drained, or the fuel has deteriorated... being mobile may not be best... aside from any number of other things, there are those like myself that have a fear of being rounded up, and put in a crate of sorts... highways seem ripe for the picking in that scenario too... find a place, hunker down, and travel later, if it's possible, not as a means of survival. For what it's worth, I had fantasies of being Mad Max myself. Do you find this valuable? |
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9. RE: Keep it simple
May 22 2012, 3:47 PM EDT
Kind of like Loki was saying...Where are you and where are you going? How long after shtf are you going to wait till you start driving? Food and water till then, while on the road, once you get to wherever you're going. Checkpoints along the way, possible detours, etc. And what do you have right now that you could use? Assuming someone ate a bad sandwich from a gas station and turned into a zombie and started the collapse before you had time to buy new supplies. I always imagine highways will more or less look like what they did in Walking Dead. After driving through and around DC for 10 years, you realize the roads kind of already look like that without having zombies roaming around. Do you find this valuable? |
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Carnack |
10. RE: Keep it simple
May 22 2012, 4:43 PM EDT
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The covers aren't any more bullet proof\resistant than the rest of the vehicle.Solar panels for what exactly? You need a pretty good grid for those sort of things. Something your truck won't have. Will you bringing a generator too? That's more stuff. Coolers are bulky. You will "find" nothing. Finding something is not a plan. It's a gamble. If you don't have it at this moment don't plan for it after a catastrophe. How will you "customize" it without proper tools. That's a pretty big job even without factoring in a lack of motorized equipment. Highways are where everyone will go migrate. Most won;t make it to their destination. Gas stations are stocked multiple times a weak at a time when people expect that more will come. What will happen when they feel the need to buy more because no more will come? Extreme shortages. You are running into the limits of using vehicles. Limited space, resources, lack of available parts for some models, clogged roads, and attention grabbing are a big reason why few factor a vehicle into their plan after they initially bug out. Do you find this valuable? |
KeithB1982 |
11. RE: Keep it simple
May 22 2012, 6:56 PM EDT
"Gas stations are stocked multiple times a weak at a time when people expect that more will come. What will happen when they feel the need to buy more because no more will come?In regards to fuel, it helps to either know your location or to map the locations bulk fuel resources. Often overlooked are construction areas where off road diesel is stored in tanks for use by construction equipment. Farms, loggers, and heavy equipment operators also store diesel on site. In any apoc event surviving the initial panic is going to be paramount. Let's face it, all the planning for a post-apoc world isn't gonna be worth a nickel if you do not survive those initial panic driven days. The fortunate among us live in rural areas and can bug in, or at least nearby, while the dust settles. Do you find this valuable? |
PedroAsani |
12. RE: Keep it simple
May 22 2012, 7:19 PM EDT
"alright. all you have good things. i ll revise.What will you do when the food and water runs out? In this scenario you have concocted, where exactly are you taking this truck? Do you find this valuable? |
CDSm101-800s |
13. RE: Keep it simple
May 23 2012, 11:05 PM EDT
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"I would get my self some guns, a lot of ammo. and a pick-up truck and drive. simple and safe"The only thing I ever assume (ass u me) for any senerio is that if I don't have it within 5 feet of me, I am not going to have it later on. I am always concerned when ppls say i am going to get some guns and some ammo.. great idea.. but if you don't have them now... just where do you plan on getting them during the panic? Ppls will shoot first and not bother to ask questions later... Same thought about the pick-up.. and a lot of other members mentioned the problem of clear roads, fuel and other issues like spare parts... One issue that needs to be answered is just where your planning on going. A nomadic existance is not going to be sustainable for very long. What appears to be a simple plan, requires a lot of prep work, and can turn out to be disasterous if things go bad. Just imagine losin a tierod end while in traeling through some unknown subdivision and ending up to your butt with pesky zombies... Murphy is never your friend... Hope you have a few back up plans.. 2 out of 2 found this valuable. Do you? |
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14. RE: Keep it simple
May 31 2012, 4:13 AM EDT
You CAN keep it even simpler:SURVIVE! Do you find this valuable? |
Sullivan714 |
15. RE: Keep it simple
May 31 2012, 1:12 PM EDT
"You CAN keep it even simpler:Great line from my favorite character Lincoln Osiris. Do you find this valuable? |
BamaChris |
16. RE: Keep it simple
May 31 2012, 5:50 PM EDT
Cal, the best advice I can give you is to listen to what is said on this forum. While a zombie apocalypse may seem farfetched, there are plenty of causes for social collapse that are not. One thing I have seen is that plenty of the people here have spent lots of time planning and revising their plans. Be flexible and listen. Personally, I go on the assumption that what I don't have now I will do without when SHTF. Sure, I have plans to add more stuff. But my plan will work with what I have now. Do you find this valuable? |
Zee-Man |
17. RE: Keep it simple
May 31 2012, 10:29 PM EDT
"You CAN keep it even simpler:The abbreviated version Sur. 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
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18. RE: Keep it simple
Jun 1 2012, 12:13 AM EDT
"The abbreviated versionZee-man, breaking the barriers of what is simple since 2012. Do you find this valuable? |
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19. RE: Keep it simple
Jun 2 2012, 2:06 PM EDT
Tis an okay plan, though there are many faults, staying in a single location is worse (unless it's a fallout bunker). Still, it would be wise to have a planned destination, and a possible safe-haven.
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