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shadowmancer |
Bugging out
Jun 9 2012, 8:29 AM EDT
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There is quite a lot of discussion on the contents of bug out bags, plans where to bug out to, modes of travel with the merits drawbacks as well as debate on bugging in vs. bugging out. I was going over all this data and a thought occurred, what about the actual process of bugging out? How will you take care of your needs while on the move? How far will you travel per day and why? What will you do for a secure location to sleep and or eat? How will you ensure you don’t arrive at your destination exhausted and useless?
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x-wolfhunter |
1. RE: Bugging out
Jun 9 2012, 8:43 AM EDT
"There is quite a lot of discussion on the contents of bug out bags, plans where to bug out to, modes of travel with the merits drawbacks as well as debate on bugging in vs. bugging out. I was going over all this data and a thought occurred, what about the actual process of bugging out? How will you take care of your needs while on the move? How far will you travel per day and why? What will you do for a secure location to sleep and or eat? How will you ensure you don’t arrive at your destination exhausted and useless?"Quite an original question. :) Well, I only plan on bugging out if my house is overrun, which I can't really see happening. The process of bugging out for me would basically be me grabbing my BOB and weapons, and then just getting out of there. On-the-move needs are basically limited to eating, sleeping, crapping, and . . . well, that's it. Crapping is obvious. Sleeping . . . well, I plan on hooking a hammock to trees at a high enough height that nobody would be able to reach me, on the off-chance they stumbled upon me. For my food, I'm working on familiarizing myself with edible plants, so whenever I came across one, I'd eat it and gather some. That would help curb hunger and make sure I get what I need to get. However, it's not enough. I've got one of those emergency fishing kits, and I want to learn how to use it, so that I can get some meat. As for other meat, since I plan on basically just staying in the same general area, I'd set up snares and maybe some deadfalls. That way I could catch small and possibly big game (I'd just have to hope no zombie walks into a trap). Do you find this valuable? |
PedroAsani |
2. RE: Bugging out
Jun 9 2012, 10:18 AM EDT
Ideally, you should be able to arrive within one daylight period. Travelling at night is a Bad Idea, sleeping in a car or in an undefended shelter is a Bad Idea.I say one daylight period rather than one day, because the time frame varies depending on location and time of year. For instance, in the UK the maximum daylight period is 17 hours 3 minutes (21st June), with the minimum being 7 hours 27 minutes (21st December). So any travel for Bugging Out in the UK should take no longer than 7 hours. If you are travelling in the US, work out the direction of travel and remember that going east to west allows you more time than west to east. If you are going to Bug Out "wherever", work out the time for each direction. Do you find this valuable? |
wbenson84 |
3. RE: Bugging out
Jun 9 2012, 10:31 AM EDT
"There is quite a lot of discussion on the contents of bug out bags, plans where to bug out to, modes of travel with the merits drawbacks as well as debate on bugging in vs. bugging out. I was going over all this data and a thought occurred, what about the actual process of bugging out? How will you take care of your needs while on the move? How far will you travel per day and why? What will you do for a secure location to sleep and or eat? How will you ensure you don’t arrive at your destination exhausted and useless?"Your right... no one ever talks about the actual process. We all know bugging out is a last resort as it can be very dangerous but if that day comes where the need outweighs the risk I will not be traveling more then 5 to 7 miles a day. I wouldn't travel on the roads but rather a 100 or so yards off to the side, far enough away to still see the road and that will also help you navigate but it cuts down on the chance of you being spotted. Along with that it would be a very slow movement... carefully placing each step to cut down on noise, this would be why only 5 to 7 miles a day. Now the sleeping arraignments would have to be a 50/50 firewatch or guard. Keeping 2 of the 4 or so in your group up on 2 to 4 hour shifts guarding the camp. You would also have to have light and noise discipline so sorry but that means no fires or loud conversations, we didn't bug out for your comfort, we bugged out to survive so it might be a little uncomfortable for a few days. Just suck it up and lets keep moving, you can complain when we are safe. Eat cold canned food or MRE's, wash off in a puddle of you get the chance and keep moving, this isn't the family camping trip. I'm not sure if you can arrive not exhausted.... its a careful balancing game, do you push yourself to get to the safety of your new location and arrive exhausted? Or take an extra day or 2 risking it staying on the road where you know its dangerous. Do you find this valuable? |
Oakspar77777 |
4. RE: Bugging out
Jun 9 2012, 4:08 PM EDT
Bugging out is a tiered issue - and not one that is a "one size fits all" situation.(1) If possible, bug out in your car/truck. Part of the reason you want to have a bug out bag ready to go is so that you can hit the road while everyone else is packing their "must haves." Most city folk won't be able to help stopping off at home and packing - you can have a head start and get out while traffic is still moving. (2) If there is a blocked road ahead - do not get your vehicle stuck in a line. U turn out while you still have room and try other routes (you should have dozens of routes worked out). (3) If you must abandon vehicle, consider having a bicycle at hand (tie it to the car if you must - post apoc, who cares about scratches on the paint?). (4) Once you are on foot, sticking to the roads should be safe and might get you a ride - just avoid pileups, where tensions are frayed. (5) Backpacking, plan for 2 miles per hour of travel and keep travel to less than ten hours a day. There are variable that can increase or decrease, but that is what boyscouts usually put down back when I worked with them, so it is a decent aproximation. Do you find this valuable? |
wantmarmite |
5. RE: Bugging out
Jun 10 2012, 12:00 AM EDT
I will need to bug out. I'm still working out my plan. The distance from home to BOL could take up to a week if nothing goes to plan. At the least, I'll have supplies, familiar with areas and I'm in pretty good shape. I don't think there will be a fully designed plan. There variables will be great and I'll need to be prepared to make alternate plans on the fly. Obviously, bugging out isn't optimal, but it would be for the best. Do you find this valuable? |
womule2005 |
6. RE: Bugging out
Jun 10 2012, 12:08 AM EDT
3 years ago i got involved in the whole BOB, BOL SHTF B.S. I built a BOB that i thought was pretty good. sometime later i thought it would be a good idea to test it out and live out of my BOB for 3 days to see what it was like.a friend wanted to go with me so we upped the antee and pretended we had to evacuate the area on foot. we hauled ass the first day with our BOBs and we covered about 25 - 30 miles according to the GPS. the next day my heels hurt so bad that i could hardly bare to stand on them, my pack felt like it was twice as heavy and i didnt have any energy. so, i learned that i needed to lighten my BOB, find some dual purpose items to make it lighter. learn ways to do without in my BOB, and ways to improvise items. 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
