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IamSlowRide |
40. RE: Your guns are your guns
Jun 10 2012, 7:31 PM EDT
I practice safe weapon control so to those who wish to take them I say "Molon Labe!"
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LJ126 |
41. RE: Your guns are your guns
Jun 10 2012, 7:41 PM EDT
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"Obviously you are supposed to execute the unarmed stranger, discharging your weapon in a manner which very likely puts anyone or anything nearby in mortal danger; thus proving YOU are the eminently qualified person to handle said weapon, and putting everyone's mind at ease. "Sarcasm much!? @ the rest of the discussion: Seriously though, if I were not being safe with a firearm, I'd expect to hear about it. I'd also expect someone to smack me upside the head. And I'd deserve it. But I'm super-anal about safe gun handling; it's something upon which I pride myself. I'll chew someone's ass out at the range for being stupid. If I were drunk, depressed, angry, unstable, acting strangely or irrationally, or in any other way acting dangerously, I would expect someone to man up and take my weapons. If not for their own safety, but also for my own. That's how I'd roll with others. If someone has a problem with that policy, I don't wanna work with them. 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
DevilNuts |
42. RE: Your guns are your guns
Jun 10 2012, 8:00 PM EDT
"Sarcasm much!?"Oh come on, you know I've got kid gloves on. 3 out of 4 found this valuable. Do you? |
11ACRBlackhorse |
43. RE: Your guns are your guns
Jun 10 2012, 8:03 PM EDT
I have enough guns to loan one to a unarmed person. It won't be my best gun. You will have to SHOW me you can handle a better gun. If your a better shot and prove trustworthy, you will get what you can use the best. Be it a scoped mauser or my SKS. But if you aren't, I can issue you a 22 or 410 if so-so. But if a @ss and or worthless I also have a sling shot. lol
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timberrattler |
44. RE: Your guns are your guns
Jun 10 2012, 8:06 PM EDT
"But if you aren't, I can issue you a 22 or 410 if so-so."Yeah because a shot to the back of the head with a .22 or .410 just stings a little. A little dab of neosporin and a band-aid would fix that right up. 7 out of 9 found this valuable. Do you? |
vampirejediknight |
45. RE: Your guns are your guns
Jun 10 2012, 9:01 PM EDT
"Yeah because a shot to the back of the head with a .22 or .410 just stings a little. A little dab of neosporin and a band-aid would fix that right up."Oh, yeah. Didn't you know .22 is a crap weapon?Don't you know it's not even lethal? Don't you know they're only for kids and crap shooters? (Sarcasm.) 2 out of 2 found this valuable. Do you? |
Sharpie41 |
46. RE: Your guns are your guns
Jun 10 2012, 9:44 PM EDT
"Yeah because a shot to the back of the head with a .22 or .410 just stings a little. A little dab of neosporin and a band-aid would fix that right up."Either will do less damage if it's a shot to the body. Meaning it may be survivable. But honestly, if someone had piss poor firearms training, I wouldn't let them have a gun until they got better training. Do you find this valuable? |
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11ACRBlackhorse |
47. RE: Your guns are your guns
Jun 10 2012, 9:50 PM EDT
"Yeah because a shot to the back of the head with a .22 or .410 just stings a little. A little dab of neosporin and a band-aid would fix that right up."That wasn't my point. If I think your dangerously unsafe you will get the sling shot. If your a threat you will be gone or......... Nowhere did I say I would arm a person that is a threat Do you find this valuable? |
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11ACRBlackhorse |
48. RE: Your guns are your guns
Jun 10 2012, 10:01 PM EDT
"Either will do less damage if it's a shot to the body. Meaning it may be survivable.That isn't what I said either. Plus a piss poor shot does not equate unsafe. My youngest which don't like guns can't hit the broadside of a barn from the inside. But she is as safe as my other kids and me. If not more so. Not the same thing. Do you find this valuable? |
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timberrattler |
49. RE: Your guns are your guns
Jun 10 2012, 10:04 PM EDT
"That wasn't my point.Got 'cha. Do you find this valuable? |
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Sharpie41 |
50. RE: Your guns are your guns
Jun 10 2012, 10:22 PM EDT
"That isn't what I said either.I never mentioned anything about marksmanship, I said firearms training...... "piss poor firearms training" Do you find this valuable? |
randomknife666 |
51. RE: Your guns are your guns
Jun 10 2012, 10:49 PM EDT
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If the issue is that they think they have more training and experience, I will challenge them to a friendly competition of arms. A miniature PPC set so to speak. If they prove to be the more reliable marksmen under PPC rules, I will relinquish my superior firearm and move to my backups. Now if this isn't good enough, they can take a hike. Unless the issue is safety, if I am in any condition which is hindering my safe handling of a firearm, it goes to the nearest trusted person in better condition.And by backups I mean (if all goes well) http://www.leverarms.com/surplus-firearms/simonov-sks-rifle-investor-packs.html 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
shadowmancer |
52. RE: Your guns are your guns
Jun 11 2012, 1:54 AM EDT
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This is the only time anyone will probably ever hear me say this in my lifespan due to my utter disgust at them, but thank God for my aunt, uncle and cousin. I am not to try and sound tough but physical force wouldn't work to get me to surrender them, simply put to take them by force you'll have to kill me. If I’m dead I won't be able to use them so meh. Guile, well this is where my peice of poo aunt idiot uncle and loser cousins come in. They are constantly trying to steal pieces from, manipulate me into surrendering pieces from or the whole of the collection to them, and threaten me in an attempt to take the relics or trying to sue for a part of the whole collection. They've tried every trick in the book to get what is mine and failed so I think I wouldn't be deceived into losing them. That being said I wouldn't hesitate to give away pieces from my own portion of the collection if I thought it would do some good. I don't mean to sound braggy but I just found it hilarious that my family dysfunction would be useful lol. Note: my collection contains the family relics as well as pieces I’ve purchased myself out of interest, for spare parts, were gifts or trades with friends. The collection also contains some of my own handy work such as my favorite hunting bow. Some peices I do not consider to be mine, my grandfathers rifle and service pistol will always be his. 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
chitoryu12 |
53. RE: Your guns are your guns
Jun 11 2012, 10:39 AM EDT
"Sarcasm much!?I'm the same way, but I also pride myself on two things: 1. Being able to calm myself down and think clearly in any situation to avoid making things worse. 2. Never drinking or drugging up on the job. If I have alcohol or pot or anything else, my weapons are somewhere else and I'm intentionally trying to remain sober enough to make rational decisions. And when I do have a weapon, I'm terribly anal about it (I've even been nervous about handling blank weapons on stage and on film before, especially when barely trained actors are handed guns). Meaning if somebody is trying to forcefully take my weapons out of my hands, 10 to 1 it's not going to be because I'm freaking out and threatening to kill everyone. It's going to be because they have a very bad reason for disarming me, and in a situation like this I don't take kindly to people tugging my guns out of my hands. If you want to assault someone in a post-SHTF world, prepare to face the consequences. Do you find this valuable? |
SasquatchJim |
54. RE: Your guns are your guns
Jun 11 2012, 10:53 AM EDT
To me, the situation varies based on the circumstances.If I'm acting like a dumbass and muzzling anyone, I see no problem with anyone taking the gun. If someone comes up to me and asks to borrow my gun for some reason, I'd probably let them...AFTER drawing one of my other guns to use in my defense if things go bad. Now, if I'm walking around my yard during the initial stages of the outbreak, and somebody runs out to me and grabs the gun, I'll try my best to stop them. With my other gun, with my knife, with my hands, with my feet, whatever. If they're taking the gun in a violent manner with no stated reason, I doubt they're using it for a good reason. I don't drink, I know proper firearms handling techniques, and I'm generally in control of my temper, so it seems unlikely to me that anyone on my side would have a good reason to forcefully take my gun away. Do you find this valuable? |
=jesse= |
55. RE: Your guns are your guns
Jun 11 2012, 11:12 AM EDT
"I don't drink, I know proper firearms handling techniques, and I'm generally in control of my temper, so it seems unlikely to me that anyone on my side would have a good reason to forcefully take my gun away."Same here, however I do drink...and I have a bit of a history for instigating when I drink. I'm not overly aggressive or a dick, I just really like to wrestle and box...doubly so when I drink. Sometimes I forget that other people would rather just enjoy their drink....Usually the only person who gets me to stand down is my wife. I really just don't have the huevos to stand up to her. I will say though that I have been smart enough to never mix drinking and firearms, even when I've been schwasted and a friend asks to see one of my guns. Do you find this valuable? |
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chitoryu12 |
56. RE: Your guns are your guns
Jun 11 2012, 8:12 PM EDT
"I think if society had just broken down (especially due to zombies) and someone was sprinting full tilt at me while I'm patrolling with a rifle, I'd have shot him before he managed to get close enough to grab it. Do you find this valuable? |
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SasquatchJim |
57. RE: Your guns are your guns
Jun 11 2012, 8:50 PM EDT
"I think if society had just broken down (especially due to zombies) and someone was sprinting full tilt at me while I'm patrolling with a rifle, I'd have shot him before he managed to get close enough to grab it."Fair enough haha. I was trying to provide a contrast in the scenarios. Do you find this valuable? |
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Sharpie41 |
58. RE: Your guns are your guns
Jun 11 2012, 9:17 PM EDT
http://www.personaldefensesolutions.net/Article-HoldOntoYourGun.pdfhttp://www.itstactical.com/intellicom/mindset/dont-give-up-your-gun-tips-for-weapon-retention/ Here are a few links. Do you find this valuable? |
oldannyboy37 |
59. RE: Your guns are your guns
Jun 11 2012, 9:47 PM EDT
"Nobody takes my gun, manipulative or not. I don't hand out weapons to people who aren't already part of my BOL. You try to pull my weapon out of my hands, I bite your hand and shoot you."This. Someone would really have to work to earn my trust before I'd even consider passing out a lifeline (a gun is a tool that can save your life). If they try and do it forcefully, good luck to them (not). I'm not a martial arts expert, or anything like that, but I keep my sling around me in a position that's not going to be easy to get it off, and I use an active retention holster for my handgun. In other words if you go to grab any of my weapons without incapacitating me first you're going to be maimed by one of the other ones. I keep a knife easily assessable on my left side just for that purpose, if someone makes a grab for my handgun they're liable to get their face or neck sliced open. Again, I'm no Billy Bad@$, and it's entirely possible that someone could pop me with a weapon and take mine, or someone could get lucky and get my gun off me, but I'm going to do everything I can to make it as hard and hazardous to them as possible. Do you find this valuable? |
