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DevilNuts |
Scenario Thread: Banished!
Jun 13 2012, 12:45 AM EDT
You've gone and done it now. Somehow, the group leadership has determined that due to irreconcilable personality differences, you are no longer welcome to stay. You are exiled!Having been with the group for a few weeks/months, you have become accustomed to communal living. Now yet again you are thrust back into the harsh wild, to fend for yourself. You can bring with you whatever is yours that you can carry - it is made decisively clear there will be no second trip. There isn't much out there - nothing close, anyhow. It's going to be rough. Your family/friends are welcome to stay with the group, and you have no doubt that they will be treated well if they do stay, and enjoy a relatively comfortable standard of living. Reaction? 5 out of 6 found this valuable. Do you?
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wantmarmite |
1. RE: Scenario Thread: Banished!
Jun 13 2012, 1:01 AM EDT
On my own, it would really suck. But with family/friends around, not nearly so bad.Well, my parents would go with me. I wouldn't assume anything about friends. I believe they would come with us, but nothing's sure in life. I can think of a few places we could travel to. The three of us are physically active. I have some survival skills. And if I made it that far, I would have already trekked a few hundred km. We would have a rifle and ammo. My Dad's is ex-special forces and is pretty young still. I think he could get us to where we were going. I would be disappointed, but it wouldn't be hopeless. Do you find this valuable? |
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BigLoki |
2. RE: Scenario Thread: Banished!
Jun 13 2012, 1:31 AM EDT
Really hard decision really.... I want my daughter with me, but aside from selfish "I love her so much" feelings, it's because i know I would give all to keep her safe. If she's safer there, and I feel confident that she would be... I still can't say for sure yet if I would leave her there... sounds horrible doesn't it? As for the rest, they're grown,and their decision is theirs to make... may have to get back to you on this one.
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LJ126 |
3. RE: Scenario Thread: Banished!
Jun 13 2012, 1:49 AM EDT
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Reaction? Well, it depends on the situation.I'd like to believe that if I were doing my part, contributing to my share of the workload and maintaining a positive relationship with everyone in said community, people would inevitably become fond of me. Good people tend to take care of other good people; if I were exiled without a damn good reason, I'd like to think that people would stand up for me and challenge the decision. I know I would for another, if they deserved it. If the leadership has, in the past, proven to be so pithy as to allow personal differences between themselves and contributing town members to come to the point of exile, I'd be willing to say that they're governing on borrowed time. See thread: http://www.zombiesurvivalwiki.com/thread/4950079/- I'd do what I've gotta do to stay alive, and I'd try to do it near enough to town that I can stay in communication with my family and friends. Sympathizers might aid my situation with food, water, and information. I'd hang on as long as I can. What else can you do, anyway? Do you find this valuable? |
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BamaChris |
4. RE: Scenario Thread: Banished!
Jun 13 2012, 3:19 AM EDT
I think my family would come with me. So the group would lose 4 men, 3 women and a teenaged girl (depending on when this happens). All are armed and all can shoot well. 3 of us I would say shoot very well. In our family group we have an engineer, a reloader, a cop, a decent carpenter & plumber, 2 hunters, 3 with experience with livestock, 4 gardners, 2 with training equal to a paramedic, one who minored in botany, and a crowd with a great work ethic and warped sense of humor.We'll be fine. The group loses a lot. Do you find this valuable? |
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BigLoki |
5. RE: Scenario Thread: Banished!
Jun 13 2012, 3:27 AM EDT
Yeah, I've thought on it... I would leave with my daughter. Even though their intentions may be well, that doesn't mean they always will be. If it had to be the two of us, I'm ok with that, I'm pretty capable... more capable than many would believe. I can't say for sure whether the rest of my small crew would stay or go, I wouldn't try to force them either way.Odds are if something like that went down, it was a personal thing. That being the case, the leadership there is small, and petty, I wouldn't leave my child in their hands. Take my chances. 2 out of 2 found this valuable. Do you? |
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IamSlowRide |
6. RE: Scenario Thread: Banished!
Jun 13 2012, 3:59 AM EDT
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I would never abandon my family or the operators in my crew and they would never abandon us, this is the colonies loss and I will take all my gear, vehicles, fuel, supplies anything we came with we leave with and a fair portion of any scavenged supplies
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DevilNuts |
7. RE: Scenario Thread: Banished!
Jun 13 2012, 7:04 AM EDT
"If the leadership has, in the past, proven to be so pithy as to allow personal differences between themselves and contributing town members to come to the point of exile, I'd be willing to say that they're governing on borrowed time. "P-E-R-S-O-N-A-L-I-T-Y differences, not personal. Basically they think you are not good enough as a person to be there. Not because one person holds a grudge. Huge difference. 2 out of 2 found this valuable. Do you? |
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11ACRBlackhorse |
8. RE: Scenario Thread: Banished!
Jun 13 2012, 7:40 AM EDT
Me and my immediate family will depart. And the in-laws would probably also depart too. 50/50 chance on friends though.But 5-15 family and up to 30+ with friends. That would be around 2-3 or even 4 guns per person. Think the community can afford to lose such a large segment of their man power and firepower. And I bet if we wanted to take everything we brought into the group would leave. No matter how many trips it took. Having a small war, because I wouldn't allow someone to be King over me and mine, isn't worth the blood letting Do you find this valuable? |
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DevilNuts |
9. RE: Scenario Thread: Banished!
Jun 13 2012, 7:48 AM EDT
"And I bet if we wanted to take everything we brought into the group would leave. No matter how many trips it took."The implication was that you would be cut down if you tried. So your response would be some suicidal charge, presumably getting your entire family killed in the process? ....That is illuminating. Do you find this valuable? |
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JunkCollector |
10. RE: Scenario Thread: Banished!
Jun 13 2012, 8:13 AM EDT
Let my family decide for themselves if they want to stay. Pack what I will need to start out and over for myself and or my family. If not being watched, set up a time delayed incendiary device, lets say a few hours, that will start a fire and hopefully burn the whole fu(king place down. I know what if your family stays, you would start a fire that puts them at harm, YES I would, if they choose to abandon me then screw them. Its all about me, me, me I tell you! This response is not totally serious, but it would be how I would feel some what, wouldn't we all? Do you find this valuable? |
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11ACRBlackhorse |
11. RE: Scenario Thread: Banished!
Jun 13 2012, 8:24 AM EDT
Again people assUming again.I bet if we wanted to...isn't ....we will. Now is it? But let's grasp this concept. A large group of say 15-30 people voluntarily leave because leaders could see eye to eye. And the departing group was made to leave at gun point. While also expecting them to only take what they can carry in one trip. While it may have taken them three trips to haul it in. Not quite fair and does this so called leader have enough people to steal the others belongings at gun point. Plus would it be worth the risk of destroying your group over others belongings. Your assUming a whole lot hear. Your the one threatening just because someone won't bow for the King and his chosen. lol now that really shows me how YOU really think Do you find this valuable? |
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DevilNuts |
12. RE: Scenario Thread: Banished!
Jun 13 2012, 8:31 AM EDT
My intent with this thread was to show an example of how being unwilling to conform to a group setting can get you into trouble. And yes, this is a spinoff of the "your guns..." thread. So you can't play nice with others? Fine, hit the road. But regardless of how many guns you have, it's likely the group is not nearly worse off than YOU suddenly are: You and your family may starve. Who's going to watch over you while you sleep? Who's going to fix your truck/suture your wounds? If you go stomping off like a tough guy, that's fine. I'm sure you'll make a really bad@ss-looking corpse. And for what? Because you don't like a few rules? Do you find this valuable? |
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DevilNuts |
13. RE: Scenario Thread: Banished!
Jun 13 2012, 8:32 AM EDT
"I bet if we wanted to...isn't ....we will. Now is it?"The scenario implies that even if you wanted to - you won't. No matter how much you bet on it. Does that change anything? If not, my previous statement stands. Do you find this valuable? |
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SasquatchJim |
14. RE: Scenario Thread: Banished!
Jun 13 2012, 8:37 AM EDT
Well, whatever I've done, it has to be pretty bad to exile me based on my personality. Seems like they're right in exiling me if I'm that much of a psycho.I'd leave my family's choices up to them. If they want to come with me, great. If they don't, I understand. Do you find this valuable? |
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11ACRBlackhorse |
15. RE: Scenario Thread: Banished!
Jun 13 2012, 9:00 AM EDT
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Again your assUming my group can't survive without a dictator and his minions.You also assUme you outnumber and or outgun my group. Especially considering your group is so low on guns it needs to confiscate newcomers weapons just to arm your guards and scavengers. But considering we wouldn't surrender our guns to join. Your little thread isn't relevant. Have fun with your under gunned kingdom, Comrade. Do you find this valuable? |
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BigLoki |
16. RE: Scenario Thread: Banished!
Jun 13 2012, 9:04 AM EDT
I understand the thinking behind it, I do; but yes, I would go stomping off like a tough guy. That "my way or the highway" crap didn't fly with me at 8, certainly haven't changed my opinion of it at 33. I would leave, and I would likely have as much a chance of survival as I would within the "gimme yer ****" group.Just a matter of going without on certain things. Nothing new to me, I'd make due. I respect the reasoning behind it, and I understand the concept. I just don't agree with it, and choose not to live like that. Just the fact that it was on the table like that would make me want to leave banished or no. Do you find this valuable? |
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Frag-12 |
17. RE: Scenario Thread: Banished!
Jun 13 2012, 9:33 AM EDT
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Lead a horde of zombies to their encampment. Revenge is a dish best served with cold undead ... ;-)That is why I do not think I will have banishment as a punishment or because of personality conflicts; you never know what you are inviting if you do so. Never underestimate someone, just because they act like an idiot in camp, doesn’t mean they cannot surprise you with moments of avenging brilliance. By banishing someone, you may have just given them focus and a nothing to lose conviction. And all of you know someone with nothing to lose is the worst kind of enemy. Seriously, if it was a personality conflict, I would probably be just as happy to be exiled as they are for banishing me. If I survived on my own before, I will again. If I had any family and true friends with me when we arrived at the community, they will most likely come with me further reducing the community's numbers and force multiplier to defend their position. This is why it is so important to either choose like-minded individuals to join up with or learn how to compromise like a married couple. Do you find this valuable? |
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Frag-12 |
18. RE: Scenario Thread: Banished!
Jun 13 2012, 9:42 AM EDT
If my friends and family didn't want to come, that is fine and understandable. I would first try to make a deal with the community leaders in the form of a compromise. If there was no deal to be made, I will move out on my own. Now there are three things I can do, suicide, make it, or die trying. I rather make it than die trying or suicide. Lone Wolves (which include Mountain Men) have survived war zones, dangerous animals, and the elements before which means I can to the same and I am already ahead in the curve because I have had some survival experience gained prior to and during my stay with the community.Do you find this valuable? |
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LWJ2009 |
19. RE: Scenario Thread: Banished!
Jun 13 2012, 9:48 AM EDT
"Lead a horde of zombies to their encampment. Revenge is a dish best served with cold undead ... ;-)The group would then have to do without the services of about eight to ten people. That is quite the manpower loss. I would try to bargain with leadership and see if we can come to some sort of understanding. One person would be an easy fix, however more than that is going to present some big time issues. Or on the other hand I could go and bide my time and let the leadership have an "Accident" and then perhaps the new Chief might have a change of heart. Do you find this valuable? |