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Sullivan714 |
2 Types of bug out bags?
Jun 19 2012, 9:11 PM EDT
I was wondering how many of you have more than one type of bug out bag? I'm starting to think I need 2 of them. One for survival and one for combat. I know I wouldn't be able to take them both with me if I need to leave by foot. But I do plan to bug in anyway, and if I do leave I plan to leave by vehicle. I'd rather have access to 2 types of BOB's rather than try and fit it all in a 60 lb. BOB.
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PedroAsani |
1. RE: 2 Types of bug out bags?
Jun 19 2012, 9:20 PM EDT
One is going to be no good without the other.If you can fight, but can't take rations or water, you are going to die. If you take rations and water, but no weapons, you are likely to die in the first fight you have. Work out how to carry everything you need in one bag. If you can't carry it, take out things that aren't essential. Do you find this valuable? |
Sharpie41 |
2. RE: 2 Types of bug out bags?
Jun 19 2012, 9:20 PM EDT
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I would have a 2 part BOB, a vest for combat, a ruck for survival.My plan in a short and sweet nutshell. Edit, thought I was first but Pedro brings up a good point. Vest for combat with "enough" survival supplies, with my ruck containing rest of survival stuff with extra "combat" supplies. Do you find this valuable? |
IamSlowRide |
3. RE: 2 Types of bug out bags?
Jun 19 2012, 9:49 PM EDT
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I am currently reworking by BOB into a 3 part kit, level 1 gear is gear on my person at all times and is carried on a USGG Infidel battle belt, left hand drop leg has my MUT, Recon cleaning kit, and RAT-5 Knife, right hand drop leg has my Sig, belt itself has 2 AR mags, 2 pistol mags, 1 pouch with survival gear and 1 pouch with a small PFAK and a rolly polly dump pouch2nd level is my Plate carrier with removable operator pack, vest carries 4 AR mags, 2 pistol mags, Apache Falcon, Sayoc hawk, medium size recon cleaning kit, admin pouch has misc items and surge multi tool, led light, folder, another small pouch carries a burner cell with 100 pre paid min and an 8 gig memory stick with vital documents, another ,pouch contains 25 mixed shot shells, operator pack carries essential shelter and camp gear ie. stove, fuel, GSI Micro dualistic, bivy, FAK, small personal hygiene kit, 3 day mainstay, emergency water, aquapure water bottle shemagh etc... 3rd level carries my Mossberg 590, extra ammunition for all 3 weapons, long term survival gear additional rations water, large tarp, tent stakes, more para cord, extra clothes, socks, long underwear, hygiene items, trauma FAK etc etc The operator pack attaches to the Eberlestock and in the event I have to ditch or cache the larger bag I can remove the operator and attach it to my vest, likewise it can be removed and ditched or cached followed by the vest, the battle belt doesn't come off unless I'm dead Do you find this valuable? |
LJ126 |
4. RE: 2 Types of bug out bags?
Jun 19 2012, 11:25 PM EDT
I'm planning on doing something similar to what IamSlowRide has outlined. In fact, I can't say enough good things about his setup; it's very much influencing how (and when!) I am evolving my own setup. I'm quite jealous of his gear, and I think it represents the highest echelon of what we are all striving to achieve. Simply put, it's MASSIVE firepower and capability.
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LWJ2009 |
5. RE: 2 Types of bug out bags?
Jun 19 2012, 11:42 PM EDT
I have a few bags Sullivan. I have my three day bag which is exactly that, more or less a patrol bag. I have my main bag, that I can use and I am working on my gun bag.However I am in the process unpacking the main bag and creating a emergency storage area in my basement. I will be bugging in for at least a week or two if not longer. I like the idea of having everything I need, and then being able to pack it according to the situation instead of a one size fits all bag. Call it risky but my house is going to be the rally point for any shtf scenario, and hafl the year bugging out with small children is not going to be a viable option. Do you find this valuable? |
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IamSlowRide |
6. RE: 2 Types of bug out bags?
Jun 20 2012, 12:46 AM EDT
"I'm planning on doing something similar to what IamSlowRide has outlined. In fact, I can't say enough good things about his setup; it's very much influencing how (and when!) I am evolving my own setup. I'm quite jealous of his gear, and I think it represents the highest echelon of what we are all striving to achieve. Simply put, it's MASSIVE firepower and capability."Thank you for the kind words LJ, I appreciate it. Do you find this valuable? |
SovietPrince |
7. RE: 2 Types of bug out bags?
Jun 20 2012, 2:20 AM EDT
Your idea is reasonable sullivan.An ideal BOB for actually leaving your residence... this would be more of a INCH bag(im nevercoming home bag... stolen acronym from a certain site i lurk) now, your second one is more for your adventures... and generally should have provisions for prolonged conflict. take your time, break down what you need and dont need in each. i'd look at the INCH style as a "there is an earthquake" or etc.. and the combat one i'd look at as the "sleepover in a sniper's perch" bag. just to give you my perspective on the idea. Do you find this valuable? |
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Antihero94 |
8. Efficiency good sir
Jun 20 2012, 6:47 AM EDT
Ok let's be honest, in the event of Z-day your going to need tonnes of equipment. An Abraham's loaded down with about 1500 gallons of water and a portable farm is ideal. But for those of us without GTA cheat codes, we have BOB's. Now since you want. Combat efficiency along with your rations and such without lugging 150 lbs of stuff you should consider items that can be effective both ways. This stuffs not cheap mind you but what price can you put on survival? What you'll need. Combat multiplier: perhaps an AR-15 or some other semi automatic high ammo volume weapon. If you buy a strap this can basically just be in a battle ready position that will also double and offset the wait of your BOB. Side arm(s): if your like me and armed to the teeth go ahead and carry several on leg straps or shoulder houlsters, I would recommend revolvers as semi automatic pistols lose massive amounts of power and can jam in a tight spot. In this case stopping power is potent unless you can shoot eyeballs out at 20 yards on a moving target bent on ripping your guts out. A melee weapon: A hatchet or knife is what I will limit you to on this one, maybe a Bowie knife or military grade machete, but all of these items come in survival variants. Meaning that in the hilt or blade head you can store, water purification tabs, fishing line, any antibiotic or neosporin, bandages, any medication you may rely on. These items will cut your bag wait exponentially. Let's not lie to ourselves now, you will never carry enough water it's heavy, the containers are bulky unless you have a water bladder but those are generally low volume and susceptible to leaks, so your water purification tabs in your survival knife will lower your necessary carry wait, seing as how you can stop at your local festering puddle and get clean although bitter tasting water. Food, I would reccomend nothing other than jerky and freeze dried mashed potatoes and fruit (something citrusy and freeze dried)
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Antihero94 |
9. RE: Efficiency good sir
Jun 20 2012, 7:05 AM EDT
However you should always carry at least 1 gallon of water at all times no matter how many purification tabs you have. A multi tool is small and reliable. A crowbar, although heavy will serve many purposes and can be strapped on the outside of the bag, I would invest in a well, vest as it. Can carry around 40% of needed ammo, any small tools and such, also make sure to put at least 200 ft of at least 150lb rated nylon chord into your bag, rope is handy for everything, as is duct tape, I'd suggest two rolls. I'd also bring ziploc bags and condoms. Not for getting freaky in the wasteland but for waterproofing any small important electronic, batteries, or personal momento, unlubed condoms work great. I would also take sharpies. More reliable than a pen or pencil and you never know what you'll have to remember. I don't really expect much for accomadatioms during the wasteland and putting up a tent equals more time for bad things to happen so I suggest a tarp and a blanket, sleeping bags are like burritos for zed, hard to escape or reach weapons efficiently. Extra ammo can be packed into the bag at your discression. You'll need some kinda water purification system but if you live near an ocean I don't think many of them can handle salt water it's pretty rough on filters, so I'd basically just stick to iodine tabs and a simple brita filter water bottle or some compact water filter first aid kits are good to slow rider said something about a trauma kit, that sounds even better if you can get somewhere that stocks them, extra clothes are really your choice but depending on who you are it may or may not be important, I would definitely pack extra socks and extra underwear. After all that id really just stick a flat razor and a tooth brush with as much toothpaste as possible on ther and call it kosher, it sounds like a lot but I imagine you'll have plenty of room left over, really just concepts to save space.
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SovietPrince |
10. RE: Efficiency good sir
Jun 20 2012, 10:27 AM EDT
" What you'll need. Combat multiplier: perhaps an AR-15 or some other semi automatic high ammo volume weapon. "LOL. he called it a "combat multiplier". THank you for the walls of text but I think we've got it covered. There are plenty of places to look(including on this site) that have efficient lists of things you'd need. 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
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Sullivan714 |
11. RE: Efficiency good sir
Jun 20 2012, 12:56 PM EDT
@pedro- Yeah I should work on that. What's taking up the most space is 2 water canteens, a small portable hammock, and a wind up radio. @Sharpie- Yeah I agree with that set up, maybe I should transfer more supplies from my ALICE pack to my vest. @Iamslowride- DAMN that's alot of gear. I wouldn't be able to move off the floor if I had that gear on me. @LWJ- Yeah I'm sort of thinking the same thing you have going @Sovietprince- That's very similar to what I've been thinking, but now I've got to find a new combat bag since I found out the one I was thinking of purchasing has bad reviews on it from a different source. @Antihero-.......I guess thanks for the advice? I'll give you some advice back, check out the site for new people and take a look at some of the members profiles. You may change your original perspective. Do you find this valuable? |
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SovietPrince |
12. RE: Efficiency good sir
Jun 20 2012, 1:31 PM EDT
"I've been trying to find a very basic bag. something i could modify myself and save spending a deuce and a half *cue military joke* on a backpack. I'm thinking of getting a hiking pack and hanging some things off of it. then as a quick use bag/ Rapid Evac Kit, i could get a messanger bag. My friend used to run with me on trails on bike with one of those things. i think he stopped using it because 1)his fell apart and 2) it kept rubbing the back tire. oh well, im actually looking into an atv at the moment, thinking i could carry alot more EXTRA of everything. my walking setup is probably going to be two bags though... not sure. i want it to be freakin light but... im starting to learn why preppers love to shave ounces off their setup. Do you find this valuable? |
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Antihero94 |
13. RE: Efficiency good sir
Jun 20 2012, 4:09 PM EDT
Lol it was 4 am I was brain puking sorry. That really wasn't a complete BOB list just kind of space saving ideas. You shouldn't have to carry so much when you can create much more efficient methods of having everything
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IamSlowRide |
14. RE: Efficiency good sir
Jun 20 2012, 11:24 PM EDT
"@Iamslowride- DAMN that's alot of gear. I wouldn't be able to move off the floor if I had that gear on me.Not including firearms weight I an somewhere around 42 lb's Do you find this valuable? |
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Sullivan714 |
15. RE: Efficiency good sir
Jun 20 2012, 11:26 PM EDT
"Not including firearms weight I an somewhere around 42 lb's"That's a good reason to stay in shape so you can carry that gear with ease when you have to take off. Do you find this valuable? |
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SovietPrince |
16. RE: Efficiency good sir
Jun 21 2012, 12:15 AM EDT
"Lol it was 4 am I was brain puking sorry. That really wasn't a complete BOB list just kind of space saving ideas. You shouldn't have to carry so much when you can create much more efficient methods of having everything "i've been aiming at small kits since the beginning. never liked the idea(or picture) of being a nutnfacny, hiking them mountains with my trusty dog, whom also has a bugoutbag. LOL Do you find this valuable? |
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IamSlowRide |
17. RE: Efficiency good sir
Jun 21 2012, 12:16 AM EDT
"That's a good reason to stay in shape so you can carry that gear with ease when you have to take off. "I am still in the process of trimming the fat from the kit, removing as much of the non essentials as possible, trying to shoot for 30 to 35 total would be nice but we'll see Do you find this valuable? |
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LWJ2009 |
18. RE: Efficiency good sir
Jun 21 2012, 12:21 AM EDT
"I am still in the process of trimming the fat from the kit, removing as much of the non essentials as possible, trying to shoot for 30 to 35 total would be nice but we'll see"Yup just don't trim to much, sometimes it is very nice to have a little fat in your kit. Some of those luxury items are worth their weight in gold when it comes to the morale boost they can provide. AKA the SMORE kit I have. Do you find this valuable? |
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IamSlowRide |
19. RE: Efficiency good sir
Jun 21 2012, 12:51 AM EDT
"Yup just don't trim to much, sometimes it is very nice to have a little fat in your kit. Some of those luxury items are worth their weight in gold when it comes to the morale boost they can provide. AKA the SMORE kit I have."Believe me when I say items in my kit specifically designed to raise morale are never leaving the bag, seasoning salt, peppermint tea, instant coffee, pb&j packets, honey packets, bullion cubes, onion soup mix...all these flavor enhancers are there for that exact reason Do you find this valuable? |
