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alcon-fay |
Mutant Zombies
Jul 3 2012, 10:06 AM EDT
The mutant zombie is a common feature in zombie media. In Day by Day Armegeddan, zombies affected by radiation are smarter and stronger than regular ones. In rot & ruin it is a genetics thing. What would mutant zombies look like? How would they act? What causes it? Do zombies get cancer? What about weird abilities like blowing up when destroyed?
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x-wolfhunter |
1. RE: Mutant Zombies
Jul 3 2012, 10:24 AM EDT
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"The mutant zombie is a common feature in zombie media. In Day by Day Armegeddan, zombies affected by radiation are smarter and stronger than regular ones. In rot & ruin it is a genetics thing. What would mutant zombies look like? How would they act? What causes it? Do zombies get cancer? What about weird abilities like blowing up when destroyed?"I very highly doubt the possible existence of super-zombies, but if there were one, I would say most likely it would be increased brain capacity, i.e. rudimentary intelligence like tool usage and basic tactics, like traps and ambush abilities. Which, in a way, is the thing I fear most about the possibility of a zombie apocalypse - smart zombies. Even if you're still several times smarter than zombies, the possibility of a slip-up is chilling. 2 out of 2 found this valuable. Do you? |
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BamaChris |
2. RE: Mutant Zombies
Jul 3 2012, 11:21 AM EDT
I'd be very curious how a dead creature could mutate. But imagination is a wonderful thing.
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DarkKingOfTheNight |
3. RE: Mutant Zombies
Jul 3 2012, 11:23 AM EDT
why even think that the dead can mutate. mutation happens to living flesh and the affects can be deadly and not cause intelligence or strength.
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4. RE: Mutant Zombies
Jul 3 2012, 4:34 PM EDT
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The most mutation I can realistically picture would be the zombie not having the usual "Dumber than a cockroach" intelligence. A sense of self-preservation, learning to hunt its prey instead of loudly running at it at the first sighting, rudimentary tool usage (even something as simple as picking up a knife will make it that much more dangerous), maybe communication or being able to lead other zombies.Best example I would think of is Big Daddy from Land of the Dead. It's established that zombies are starting to learn, but Big Daddy turns himself into the de facto leader. He orders the zombies around and teaches them how to break down barricades with tools, learns to use a gun, discovers that zombies don't need to breathe (and can simply walk along the surface of the river right into the city), and is able to shake off the distracting effects of fireworks. I don't remember all the details, but in the end he's able to actually cause an explosion intentionally. Do you find this valuable? |
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shadowmancer |
5. RE: Mutant Zombies
Jul 3 2012, 4:43 PM EDT
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The base line of a zombie is the creature that it was made from. It cannot go beyond that or it would rip itself apart. The super human zombies shown in film such as the Resident Evil series would have shattered their own bones as human bones have the tensile strength of Ash wood. Zombies, being dead cannot heal. Healing is due to cellular division. Cancer is a cellular mutation it spreads through cellular division. Zombie cells are dead. Dead cells do not divide. Zombies cannot get cancer. If the creature cannot do it in life it cannot do it in death so exploding zombies are out of the running all together. Super strong super zombies would rip their own bodies apart. This is due to physical limits of the human limbs. Our limbs are short articulated levers held together by ligaments and muscle. The length of a lever determines how effective that lever is. Our bones are poor levers due the length of the bones and the entire joint held by soft tissue. Either the flesh would fail, or the bone would fail rendering the affected limb useless. Zombies do not heal. Zombies cannot exceed the base creature in strength, senses, reflexes and basic size. The flesh can become swollen from water or built up gasses due to bacterial action but that is it. They can exceed the base creature in stench however as they are rotting flesh lol. Do you find this valuable? |
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x-wolfhunter |
6. RE: Mutant Zombies
Jul 3 2012, 4:45 PM EDT
"The most mutation I can realistically picture would be the zombie not having the usual "Dumber than a cockroach" intelligence. A sense of self-preservation, learning to hunt its prey instead of loudly running at it at the first sighting, rudimentary tool usage (even something as simple as picking up a knife will make it that much more dangerous), maybe communication or being able to lead other zombies.Hey, that's what I said! Great minds think alike . . . Do you find this valuable? |
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RainofMails |
7. RE: Mutant Zombies
Jul 3 2012, 6:41 PM EDT
It's true that dead things can't mutate, but zombies don't start off dead. They start off as living infected humans. The disease could cause mutations in the infected human before it kills them.
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shadowmancer |
8. RE: Mutant Zombies
Jul 4 2012, 1:06 AM EDT
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That is true but to work it can't go beyond what the human body or base creature can handle so super zombies are still out. Thinking they are is a long logic chain of paradoxical thinking it is almost a catch 22. A catch 22 is a paradox in which a person cannot avoid a situation because of contradictory constraints or rules. The rule you cannot avoid is the base line creature, mainly the tensile strength of its bones. A super zombie would rip itself apart rendering itself harmless. Here is the chain of thought you were following, I Want super zombies, mutate dead, dead can't mutate they’re not alive, mutate the living, living can't go past point X without destroying structure, Beyond point X destroyes structute result immobile zombies, Immobile creatures are harmless, dead rot away immobile, live mutations don't work, use dead creatures, the dead can't mutate, use living, living can't go past point x ............ and so forth into infinity. The conclusion is that super zombies cannot be created by mutations. Do you find this valuable? |
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RainofMails |
9. RE: Mutant Zombies
Jul 4 2012, 11:10 AM EDT
Who says a mutation can't alter the bones as well as the muscles? If the end result is a taller zombie or a zombie with claws, for example, the bones have to have been altered to get to that point.
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alcon-fay |
10. RE: Mutant Zombies
Jul 5 2012, 5:25 PM EDT
Actullay I was thinking of zombies who are more capable than others because they can use the human toolboox more effectivly. Running, better coordnation and tripping others.
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shadowmancer |
11. RE: Mutant Zombies
Jul 5 2012, 7:48 PM EDT
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Ah so your post is on a subset of more intellegent zombies with more functioning brain matter. Those are plauseable, lol all that zombies can be is plausable as they don't exist. Something had reactivated the brain it is totally possible that the unknown item which reactivates the brain would have more of an effect on some and less on others. The age of the base person would also play a huge roll in the intellegence of a zombie. The brain becomes more complex as you age and as neurons die off and interconnections are formed so an middle aged zombie would be more intellegent than say a 16 year old Zombie as more interconections between the neurons exist in the older brain. Do you find this valuable? |
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Ghoulsmasher |
12. RE: Mutant Zombies
Jul 5 2012, 8:20 PM EDT
It would have to be the result of a mutated strain of solanum or Z vrius or whatever you want to call it. Once a person is dead, nothing else can be mutated beyond the original contagion...unless as I said the contagion itself was already mutated.
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dragonlord99 |
13. RE: Mutant Zombies
Aug 19 2012, 1:23 AM EDT
"The mutant zombie is a common feature in zombie media. In Day by Day Armegeddan, zombies affected by radiation are smarter and stronger than regular ones. In rot & ruin it is a genetics thing. What would mutant zombies look like? How would they act? What causes it? Do zombies get cancer? What about weird abilities like blowing up when destroyed?"I don't know if anybody follows this thread anymore but what if the zpoc happened in japan remember the tusnami all the nuke rads japan was decleared a nuke wasteland what if the virus was there and the rads mutated the strand on a molecular level thus making the zombies that more hard to kill or making them smarter or giving them claws or something, just a thought. Do you find this valuable? |
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alcon-fay |
14. RE: Mutant Zombies
Aug 20 2012, 7:59 PM EDT
"Ah so your post is on a subset of more intellegent zombies with more functioning brain matter. Those are plauseable, lol all that zombies can be is plausable as they don't exist. Something had reactivated the brain it is totally possible that the unknown item which reactivates the brain would have more of an effect on some and less on others.also, the human body at max can take 3 times it's weight. so a zombie could be slightly stronger than the average human. Do you find this valuable? |