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Randyofpirate
Randyofpirate
20. RE: will fireworks be useful in a world of zombies?
Aug 2 2012, 11:54 AM EDT | Post edited: Aug 2 2012, 11:54 AM EDT
whats up everyone. Ive been away for a few months from the site. Glad to see its still going strong. But enough with the pleasantries.

We shot a few fireworks on the 4th and I found one to be pretty useful. I dont recall the name of it but it basically flashed incredibly bright like a strobe light. We had been outside for about 3 hours in the dark so our eyes were adjusted pretty well to the dark.

The repeated flash was pretty disorienting and made it hard to focus on anything for a few seconds. the flashes lasted for about 20 seconds or so. I could see where a few of these deployed at the same time around a human could make it very hard for that person to acquire a target with a weapon. and deployed into a dark and closed in space, these things would be blinding.

they would serve no purpose at all against zed though.
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crocodilecommando
crocodilecommando
21. RE: will fireworks be useful in a world of zombies?
Aug 2 2012, 4:33 PM EDT | Post edited: Aug 2 2012, 4:33 PM EDT
Only Doing This As A Reply, Anyone Who Does Does So At Their Own Risk.
Fireworks as an explosive are pretty pathetic only having enough power to rip human flesh and only really taking off fingers if they explode near a joint. But if you apply some basic explosive physics by making a shape charge. Most of the time these are explosives packed into a cone shape container. The cone directs the pressure of the explosion into one place. Think of an RPG, not high tech but by using high-explosives in a shape charge the rocket easily punch through armour as the explosive pressure is directed onto a single point allowing it to punch through armour whereas an un-shaped charge of equal strength may not effect the armour at all. Do you find this valuable?    
mr.jimborisin
mr.jimborisin
22. RE: will fireworks be useful in a world of zombies?
Aug 2 2012, 5:36 PM EDT | Post edited: Aug 2 2012, 5:42 PM EDT
"How useful do you guys think fireworks will be like 1.5'' shells, salutes,etc basically anything capable of hurting you pretty bad? like a salute or 1/4 stick with nails taped to it or artillery shells with tacks in the shell? Please note that i take no responsibility for anything done with this information."
if you like shiny things and hundreds of zombies chasing you then ya shore go for it if not try to stay away from the loud pretty things.

but if you split a small fire cracker in half and put the contents on kindling it can give you a good start on a fire Do you find this valuable?    

The_survivalist
23. RE: will fireworks be useful in a world of zombies?
Aug 3 2012, 3:49 PM EDT | Post edited: Aug 3 2012, 3:49 PM EDT
I think fireworks (the safe & stupid kind found in California) will come in handy to distract zombies. they make alot of noise and light and will probably raw zombies away.

fireworks also make food incendiary devices (however won't set a zombie on fire), and could be salvaged for use in explosives, demolition purposes, concealment as smoke bombs, and use as flash-bangs for room clearing, counter ambush, counter raider. Do you find this valuable?    
chitoryu12
chitoryu12
24. RE: will fireworks be useful in a world of zombies?
Aug 7 2012, 3:45 AM EDT | Post edited: Aug 7 2012, 3:45 AM EDT
"Only Doing This As A Reply, Anyone Who Does Does So At Their Own Risk.
Fireworks as an explosive are pretty pathetic only having enough power to rip human flesh and only really taking off fingers if they explode near a joint. But if you apply some basic explosive physics by making a shape charge. Most of the time these are explosives packed into a cone shape container. The cone directs the pressure of the explosion into one place. Think of an RPG, not high tech but by using high-explosives in a shape charge the rocket easily punch through armour as the explosive pressure is directed onto a single point allowing it to punch through armour whereas an un-shaped charge of equal strength may not effect the armour at all."
The question is whether you have the capability, equipment, and materials to make a proper shaped charge. On top of all the capability and equipment to properly handle explosives. Do you find this valuable?    
chitoryu12
chitoryu12
25. RE: will fireworks be useful in a world of zombies?
Aug 11 2012, 2:43 AM EDT | Post edited: Aug 11 2012, 2:43 AM EDT
http://www.machovideo.com/video/_Captain_idiot_24301/

Site is NSFW, but I think the video is applicable to the subject at hand. Do you find this valuable?    
chitoryu12
chitoryu12
26. RE: will fireworks be useful in a world of zombies?
Aug 11 2012, 3:12 AM EDT | Post edited: Aug 11 2012, 3:12 AM EDT
From the same site: http://www.machovideo.com/video/Fireworks_fail_24371/

Imagine launching these fireworks into a compound or encampment. How do you think everyone will react? What damage is that going to cause, especially with flammable objects just about everywhere? Do you find this valuable?    
Zee-Man
Zee-Man
27. RE: will fireworks be useful in a world of zombies?
Aug 11 2012, 1:02 PM EDT | Post edited: Aug 11 2012, 1:02 PM EDT
Everything has some kind of improvised use. I'm sure there are plenty of uses for fireworks.

1) Signals - after all that what they were originally made for.
2) Flash Bang distractions - hey even LEO uses them for that, who cares what grade they are, they will suit the purpose
3) Improvised claymore mines - does it matter if they are lethal? injury or maiming an enemy has its own effect, perhaps enough of a deterrent to stop an attack. Better remember where the trip wires are, if not you run the same risk as your targets.
4) Improvised frag grenades - again what matter if it isn't lethal. Unlike military grenades, firecrackers have a worse record for premature detonation don't they?

However, pressing a pyrotechnic mortar into service as a mortar is more likely to injure or even kill its user. Trying to use one as a cannon is quite likely to blow it up where it is. Using a firecracker to launch a projectile the same. We don't have any data on how many people died or were injured in the development of cannon, mortars, or firearms. Trying to develop them post SHTF will result in the same kinds of failures that happened in earlier centuries.
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chitoryu12
chitoryu12
28. RE: will fireworks be useful in a world of zombies?
Aug 12 2012, 2:13 AM EDT | Post edited: Aug 12 2012, 2:13 AM EDT
I don't think ANYONE should touch explosives unless they know what they're doing. And no, I won't trust some random redneck who bought himself a mortar and some shells for July 4th 10 years back with my life. He can mess with all the rockets we find while I stay far away. Do you find this valuable?    
renet76
renet76
29. RE: will fireworks be useful in a world of zombies?
Aug 15 2012, 8:44 AM EDT | Post edited: Aug 15 2012, 8:44 AM EDT
I have to say some of the crackers that are available are stupidly powerful and loud for what they are

If you are inside the burst radius of some of them the noise will temporary disorientate you and that is pretty handy if you need to flush out people from a room and the smoke bombs as well man they stink there is no way you can stay in a room and breath with them burning

So there is the possible use as a defense role if used smartly to cover your retreat and so on but under no conditions would i try to modify them from their original design 1  out of 1 found this valuable. Do you?    
Scott_Philips
Scott_Philips
30. RE: will fireworks be useful in a world of zombies?
Aug 15 2012, 4:53 PM EDT | Post edited: Aug 15 2012, 4:53 PM EDT
good for telling zombies where the food is, or provided the fuse is long enouth, let them think where the food is.
sending up a flair will atrackt zombies for miles.
but then aggain this could also have its uses, like when your'e surounded by raiders that can destroy you zombie barricade. Do you find this valuable?    
chitoryu12
chitoryu12
31. RE: will fireworks be useful in a world of zombies?
Aug 16 2012, 5:47 PM EDT | Post edited: Aug 16 2012, 5:47 PM EDT
"good for telling zombies where the food is, or provided the fuse is long enouth, let them think where the food is.
sending up a flair will atrackt zombies for miles."
Maybe. There's not exactly any zombies around to test it on. Do you find this valuable?    
zombiezlayer
zombiezlayer
32. RE: will fireworks be useful in a world of zombies?
Aug 16 2012, 6:56 PM EDT | Post edited: Aug 16 2012, 6:56 PM EDT
"Maybe. There's not exactly any zombies around to test it on."
no there are no zombies, but we have to assume that zombies will act and behave as any other human (other than the face chewing) so more than likely a large shower of sparks and a loud boom would peak their curiosity just as it would humans. Besides, raiders would be the more dangerous problem. Do you find this valuable?    
Scott_Philips
Scott_Philips
33. RE: will fireworks be useful in a world of zombies?
Aug 18 2012, 6:41 AM EDT | Post edited: Aug 18 2012, 6:41 AM EDT
"no there are no zombies, but we have to assume that zombies will act and behave as any other human (other than the face chewing) so more than likely a large shower of sparks and a loud boom would peak their curiosity just as it would humans. Besides, raiders would be the more dangerous problem. "
if i was planning on a raid i would be heading away from fireworks. Do you find this valuable?    
zombiezlayer
zombiezlayer
34. RE: will fireworks be useful in a world of zombies?
Aug 18 2012, 3:24 PM EDT | Post edited: Aug 18 2012, 3:24 PM EDT
"if i was planning on a raid i would be heading away from fireworks."
So the fact a small colony having fireworks would not spark your curiosity? No pun intended. No wondering "if they have fireworks, what else do they have I could take?" Most raiders probably would not refrain from checking it out.

I am curious though, why "head the other way?" Do you find this valuable?    
Scott_Philips
Scott_Philips
35. RE: will fireworks be useful in a world of zombies?
Aug 19 2012, 6:55 AM EDT | Post edited: Aug 19 2012, 6:55 AM EDT
"So the fact a small colony having fireworks would not spark your curiosity? No pun intended. No wondering "if they have fireworks, what else do they have I could take?" Most raiders probably would not refrain from checking it out.

I am curious though, why "head the other way?""
Good point, but as i said, this will atrackt zombies plus if they are using firewoks, chanses are they're well organised or intend to lure pepole.
But i was never a good badguy anneyway, i'm more of a scavenger.
And if i ever come across o couple of sky-flowers on a scavenging trip, i think i might take'm with me if i got room in my pack. You never know.
and you kan always convert them into a grenade if the situation calls for it. Do you find this valuable?    
CDSm101-800s
CDSm101-800s
36. RE: will fireworks be useful in a world of zombies?
Aug 30 2012, 10:00 AM EDT | Post edited: Aug 30 2012, 10:00 AM EDT
I am sure some of the more powerful fireworks would work nicely for an improvised frag bomb, but I am not inclined to find out. I like my fingers where they are thank you very much...

All kidding aside, as mentioned earlier, if you had a long enough fuse, they might be useful in getting ppls or zombies attention when you want them to go one way while you scoot the other.

One example is in the series the walking dead, where shane and otis use road flares to send the zombies in one direction while they head to the medical trailer.

Other than that, loud bangs and bright light is bound to attract attention.. undead or otherwise.. 1  out of 1 found this valuable. Do you?    
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