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TheHobbit81 |
An interesting lighting option.
Jul 11 2012, 3:28 AM EDT
Saw this and thought it was an interesting lighting solution. It turns a 2lt Plastic bottle, with water and bleach, into a 50 Watt light bulb. What do you all think?Vid: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_zMAWztZ6TI&feature=player_embedded Do you find this valuable?
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Braydonn |
1. RE: An interesting lighting option.
Jul 11 2012, 3:43 AM EDT
Pretty awesome in my opinion! Of course you'd need to live under a tin roof to be able to take advantage of it. Do you find this valuable? |
randomknife666 |
2. RE: An interesting lighting option.
Jul 11 2012, 4:22 AM EDT
That covers lighting, but I think I just found the solution to most of your other power needshttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6LjuZsod4E4&feature=related This may only seem simple to me because I took a course in computer engineering (covers all the wiring and fun stuff that showed up). Do you find this valuable? |
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TheHobbit81 |
3. RE: An interesting lighting option.
Jul 11 2012, 7:02 AM EDT
"That covers lighting, but I think I just found the solution to most of your other power needsWOW, awesome find. Would it need pressure from a mains water supply? or power a pump to push the water? It could power it's own pump once it starts up; wait a minute, perpetual energy? Do you find this valuable? |
AlphaOneFour |
4. RE: An interesting lighting option.
Jul 11 2012, 9:13 AM EDT
As far as I can tell, all it needs is a way for the water to run over the turbine with enough force to spin it. Just as the guy who posted the video says in the comments section, tapping a stream which is uphill from the turbine could supply enough force to do so.Pressure from mains water could drive it, but if you're metered then it's probably a waste of money, as the savings from the electricity you produce would be less than the cost of the water used to drive the turbine, thus resulting in a net loss. Also, for all those not familiar with physics, you cannot simply link this system up to a water pump and set it going, as in terms of energy transfer, there will always be a loss of useful energy. You cannot break even, and if you ever truly find a way to produce more energy than you put in without sacrificing something else such as mass, you're in line for a trip to jail for fraud. Do you find this valuable? |
shadowmancer |
5. RE: An interesting lighting option.
Jul 11 2012, 9:21 AM EDT
:O what alpha you doubt my perpetual motion machine :O lol
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AlphaOneFour |
6. RE: An interesting lighting option.
Jul 11 2012, 9:23 AM EDT
"WHAT? Doth thee doubt this machine of perpetual motion, cretin known as Alpha?"There you go, fixed it. Only slightly. I'll believe it when that guy behind/below/inside it on that exercise bike stops pedalling :) Do you find this valuable? |
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shadowmancer |
7. RE: An interesting lighting option.
Jul 11 2012, 9:26 AM EDT
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lol I like your version better lol much better worded I made it out of a glowstick, duct tape, a rubber band and a can of tuna........... how could it fail? Do you find this valuable? |
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AlphaOneFour |
8. RE: An interesting lighting option.
Jul 11 2012, 10:14 AM EDT
"lol I like your version better lol much better wordedWhy thank you. You didn't say it included duct tape initially! This changes everything! Do you find this valuable? |
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randomknife666 |
9. RE: An interesting lighting option.
Jul 11 2012, 11:12 AM EDT
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" You cannot break even, and if you ever truly find a way to produce more energy than you put in without sacrificing something else such as mass, you're in line for a trip to jail for fraud."Wait... I can understand your logic behind almost all of it. But the fraud part... Explain this to me, because for some reason, it doesn't seem logical... Do you find this valuable? |
x-wolfhunter |
10. RE: An interesting lighting option.
Jul 11 2012, 11:45 AM EDT
"Saw this and thought it was an interesting lighting solution. It turns a 2lt Plastic bottle, with water and bleach, into a 50 Watt light bulb. What do you all think?I seem to remember another thread about this a while back . . . The only obvious problem is that you can't make bleach PZD, and you'd be cutting holes in your roof. I wouldn't use this, because I don't need lights in my house in the day, and at night I'll be sleeping (And anyone on watch shouldn't have a light that's always on anyway). Do you find this valuable? |
PedroAsani |
11. RE: An interesting lighting option.
Jul 11 2012, 1:12 PM EDT
"The only obvious problem is that you can't make bleach PZD"http://www.tacticalintelligence.net/blog/how-to-make-chlorine.htm Do you find this valuable? |
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AlphaOneFour |
12. RE: An interesting lighting option.
Jul 11 2012, 5:03 PM EDT
"But the fraud part... Explain this to me, because for some reason, it doesn't seem logical..."Any machine which appears capable of perpetual motion is either extremely efficient, but will eventually run out of energy/mass, or is fraudulent, as the laws of thermodynamics state that there is no such thing as a 1:1 input energy : useful energy conversion. As an example of fraud, a perpetual motion machine in Paris in the 1800s, if memory serves, kept going for several weeks, but then it was discovered that two assistants of the inventor were keeping the machine going whilst concealed beneath it. Fraud is illegal (at least here), and whilst simply claiming to have made such a machine is fraudulent, as it it patently not true, you are not defrauding anyone unless you try to use said fakery to make money. I could probably have phrased my original statement better. Do you find this valuable? |
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TheHobbit81 |
13. RE: An interesting lighting option.
Jul 19 2012, 10:12 AM EDT
I found a guy that made his own wind generator. I believe a commercial one can be quite expensive.http://www.mdpub.com/Wind_Turbine/ Do you find this valuable? |
