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Carnack
Carnack
What Is The Point of Survivalism For You?
Jul 24 2012, 12:50 AM EDT | Post edited: Jul 24 2012, 12:50 AM EDT
So we all obviously look at survival differently. Some of us are Dog Eat Dog and some look at it as another form of insurance.

It's through seeing things through new lenses that we learn more about the nuances of a particular view and ours.

So share yours.

Mine is simple. It's insurance against the nastiness of an unleashed human animal. By learning certain skills I put yet another barrier between me and mine and the societal muck that will be more commonplace.

The more ways I learn to get food the harder it will be to get to that time when I'll need to choose between morals (which are deeply rooted to me) and my life and the lives of me and mine.

The more places I can make safer the harder it is to put us on the road at the mercy of the elements.

The more little skills I can pick up the more I can depend on me and less on the kindness of strangers.

It is insurance at its basic level.
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IrishHitman
IrishHitman
1. RE: What Is The Point of Survivalism For You?
Jul 24 2012, 1:27 AM EDT | Post edited: Jul 24 2012, 1:27 AM EDT
Insurance at its most basic level is a very good description.

Also is a very interesting intellectual exercise from the point of view of remaking societies, the law, etc.
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11ACRBlackhorse
11ACRBlackhorse
2. RE: What Is The Point of Survivalism For You?
Jul 24 2012, 9:32 AM EDT | Post edited: Jul 24 2012, 9:33 AM EDT
I always thought of preparedness as insurance against disaster/SHTF. It helps get others to understand it and or convince them to do it too.
My grandparents called it normal living. There are lots of people that always have food and supplies for extended periods stored away.
The emergency evacuation bag is what BOBs used to be called. Or just emergency kits/bags. It's not a new concept just starting to be excepted again as normal.
These emergency kits/bags were more basic than the modern BOB.

I'm just fallowing my family tradition of preparation that my parents ignored. Which they are relearning again too.
So to me prepping is natural, expected, tradition, and insurance.

It is my responsibilities as the protector of my family to do. Nothing less is excepted and anything more is demanded. I am the protector and it is my job.
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Oakspar77777
Oakspar77777
3. RE: What Is The Point of Survivalism For You?
Jul 24 2012, 9:42 AM EDT | Post edited: Jul 24 2012, 9:42 AM EDT
I do it because it is fun to do. I've always loved backpacking, pioneering, survival camping, fishing, hunting, gardening, and livestock.

So, even though I have a full time job, I spend all my time off working (my coworkers think I'm nuts when they ask what I'm going to do on my time off and I am excited about the chance to do some hard work around the farm).

Zombies and the apocalypse are just a fun excuse to farm, play with guns, and slowly work my way off the grid and the daily grind.
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LJ126
LJ126
4. RE: What Is The Point of Survivalism For You?
Jul 24 2012, 10:09 AM EDT | Post edited: Apr 25 2013, 5:56 AM EDT
For me, it's a four part response.

Primarily, to me it is, as Carnack, 11ACR and IrishHitman pointed out, a very basic form of insurance. It's a means of getting by if and when things get tight or if the utilities drop for some reason. Gotta eat, gotta stay hydrated, gotta sleep, gotta be able to protect yourself from people who aren't as sane or just as the rest of us.

Second, I like the gadgets, widgets and gizmos. I've always enjoyed playing with toys, and the gear is fun for me in and of itself. I am always tinkering with my stuff - my guns, knives, hiking gear, boots, etc - to ensure that everything is as it should be. I really enjoy actually using the stuff too. I've always been interested in target shooting, hiking, self-sufficiency, primitive or simple living.

Third, I live to learn. I love learning a new fact or acquiring a new skill. Survivalism and survival preparedness open up a lot of avenues in terms of educational opportunity because the topics are so very broad. One can be picky and still have tons to learn about and have plenty to do.

Fourth, I think that survivalism allows us to get in touch with out roots a little bit. It's a way of learning to live like those who came before us. We live in an amazing time, but I think it's important that we don't forget what got us to where we are today.
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wantmarmite
wantmarmite
5. RE: What Is The Point of Survivalism For You?
Jul 24 2012, 11:16 AM EDT | Post edited: Jul 24 2012, 11:16 AM EDT
I suppose "insurance plan" is a word for it. My family always took precautions. I've always had an evacuation bag. Always rode my bike with a helmet and wearing a seatbelt. I keep a fire extinguisher in the kitchen and check fire alarms are working. Pay for insurance. Always had a budget. Most of my life, I've kept a healthy lifestyle. I like to know I've taken basic precautions so I have less things to worry about.

I see survivalism as a precaution.
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BigLoki
BigLoki
6. RE: What Is The Point of Survivalism For You?
Jul 24 2012, 11:29 AM EDT | Post edited: Jul 24 2012, 11:29 AM EDT
I don't really have a "good" answer I guess. I stock up because I know what it is like to go without, and have no desire to do that again if I can help it. I, like LJ enjoy the gear. So I keep adding to that for those reasons, as much as any perceived need for them.

The plotting, and planning is as much for my entertainment, as it is for any real fear of the future. It's a challenge. Not that I fancy myself a genius or anything; but there isn't a lot in my regular everyday life that presents a mental challenge to me. I enjoy the abstract thinking, overcoming problems that don't yet exist, and adapting my "plan" accordingly.

As for protection, I have always been "wired" like that. I am always concerned for the safety of those around me. So that aspect isn't really as much for later, as it is a part of my everyday life anyway. I have been extremely security conscious since I have been a child. Life situations, and employment choices have only increased that aspect of my personality to the point of probably abnormal.

As for the act of anticipating survival situations, instead of the mindset of it: I have children. they are little, and need me. So I plan to be here for that. If not for them, to be honest I have no real pressing reason to stick around. Not to say that I don't value my life, or that I am depressed, or suicidal. I'm not. I just see no real need to suffer nearly endlessly if it is a large scale apocalyptic event. I would be more likely the guy that has all the guns and ammo, and no food... hahaha.
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shadowmancer
shadowmancer
7. RE: What Is The Point of Survivalism For You?
Jul 24 2012, 12:28 PM EDT | Post edited: Jul 24 2012, 12:44 PM EDT
For me survivalism has many points some are serious while others are pure enjoyment. There is no particular order I’ll just write them randomly

I love an intellectual challenge, and planning for possible future events based on available data satisfies this itch for a mental workout within my own interests. It helps ease the pain of often being stuck in militant feminist land....... the horror ...... the horror.......

Stockpiling goods came from an economic necessity a few years back. I kept up the practice and save quite a bit of money per year.

I love playing with my rifles and bows as well as hunting so it is an excuse to acquire or build more. lol playing aka collecting.

I enjoy hunting and the wilderness survival skillset has increased my ability to hunt and track successfully.

I am paranoid some of the time and this is a more sane outlet than conspiracy theories lol.

I like doing things the old way and acquiring new skillset

My stockpile will allow me and others to get through economic tough times

Some of the aquired skillset makes me better at my job

It is an insurance policy due to how far from the beaten path I trek. LOL I did find out however my rocket stick gets reception in the bush lol lol
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SovietPrince
SovietPrince
8. RE: What Is The Point of Survivalism For You?
Jul 24 2012, 3:24 PM EDT | Post edited: Jul 24 2012, 3:24 PM EDT
i've always wanted to be a lone wolf raider that pilots a mech. does that count? ^_^ Do you find this valuable?    
LJ126
LJ126
9. RE: What Is The Point of Survivalism For You?
Jul 24 2012, 5:02 PM EDT | Post edited: Jul 24 2012, 5:02 PM EDT
Thread featured. Another great post, Carnack! Do you find this valuable?    
Maricely
Maricely
10. RE: What Is The Point of Survivalism For You?
Jul 24 2012, 5:40 PM EDT | Post edited: Jul 24 2012, 5:40 PM EDT
I like packing and organizing. Survivalism lets me do that year round. Do you find this valuable?    
timberrattler
timberrattler
11. RE: What Is The Point of Survivalism For You?
Jul 24 2012, 7:56 PM EDT | Post edited: Jul 24 2012, 7:56 PM EDT
Thing is I didn't realize I was into survival until I got on the internet and found sites like this.

I was a survivalist and didn't know it. I was pretty sure I was the only one who thought about things like this. Not so much the whole "zombie" thing but the very real things that could cause a breakdown in society.

I'm the kind of person who can't stand seeing thier gas guage drop below half full.

Being prepared comforts me and that aint nobody's business but my own. As long as I don't put us deep in debt it doesn't hurt anyone and now that food prices are going up having a full pantry and cellar is a wonderful feeling.
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ItsMrManCub
ItsMrManCub
12. RE: What Is The Point of Survivalism For You?
Jul 24 2012, 8:10 PM EDT | Post edited: Jul 24 2012, 8:10 PM EDT
"Being prepared comforts me and that aint nobody's business but my own. As long as I don't put us deep in debt it doesn't hurt anyone and now that food prices are going up having a full pantry and cellar is a wonderful feeling."
^Second this.
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mr.jimborisin
mr.jimborisin
13. RE: What Is The Point of Survivalism For You?
Jul 25 2012, 9:02 PM EDT | Post edited: Jul 25 2012, 9:02 PM EDT
its fun to me learning new things like the fact the acorns are edible.
never take survival to seriously or you'll go mad never take it for a joke or you'll get your self well you know killed just make it into a hobby of yours learning to hunt and surviving then when it happens it will be easy well easier
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LJ126
LJ126
14. RE: What Is The Point of Survivalism For You?
Jul 25 2012, 11:46 PM EDT | Post edited: Jul 25 2012, 11:52 PM EDT
"its fun to me learning new things like the fact the acorns are edible."
I'm not directing this response to you - you probably know this - but others may not. I don't want someone to find out the hard way because what lies after this sentence is NOT common knowledge.

Raw acorns are toxic. They become edible *after processing.* Raw, they can be dangerous due to the extremely high levels of tannins. Do not eat acorns that have been sitting on ground for weeks, as these can get rotten. Select fresh looking, light brown, unblemished nuts that are fresh drops,or those collected by squirrels. Eat the squirrel too, they're tasty.

To prepare the acorns, they need to be shelled, the meat inside soaked and rinsed over and over again, then strained and dried in a warm oven or in direct sunlight. The processed acorn meat can be cooked and eaten in a variety of ways afterward. It can be pounded flat, ground into flour with a mill, or eaten straight. You can make acorn butter as well.

If you save the first soaking brew that remains from the acorns, it can be used to process leather. "Tanning" leather requires tannins and tannic acid. Fun stuff.
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wantmarmite
wantmarmite
15. RE: What Is The Point of Survivalism For You?
Jul 26 2012, 12:27 AM EDT | Post edited: Jul 26 2012, 12:27 AM EDT
For some reason, reading up on acorns makes me really want some roasted chestnuts. Do you find this valuable?    
11ACRBlackhorse
11ACRBlackhorse
16. RE: What Is The Point of Survivalism For You?
Jul 26 2012, 1:25 AM EDT | Post edited: Jul 26 2012, 1:25 AM EDT
"I'm not directing this response to you - you probably know this - but others may not. I don't want someone to find out the hard way because what lies after this sentence is NOT common knowledge.

Raw acorns are toxic. They become edible *after processing.* Raw, they can be dangerous due to the extremely high levels of tannins. Do not eat acorns that have been sitting on ground for weeks, as these can get rotten. Select fresh looking, light brown, unblemished nuts that are fresh drops,or those collected by squirrels. Eat the squirrel too, they're tasty.

To prepare the acorns, they need to be shelled, the meat inside soaked and rinsed over and over again, then strained and dried in a warm oven or in direct sunlight. The processed acorn meat can be cooked and eaten in a variety of ways afterward. It can be pounded flat, ground into flour with a mill, or eaten straight. You can make acorn butter as well.

If you save the first soaking brew that remains from the acorns, it can be used to process leather. "Tanning" leather requires tannins and tannic acid. Fun stuff."
^this^
Thanks forgot about it used in tanning but knew the rest.
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redcomrad
redcomrad
17. RE: What Is The Point of Survivalism For You?
Jul 26 2012, 1:43 AM EDT | Post edited: Jul 26 2012, 1:43 AM EDT
to prolong my life as long as possible, i want to live as long as the average guy in my family lives(about 50 or so). because as an atheist I beleive when a person dies basically what happens is you enter oblivion(basically nothingness) it is all over game over that sounds pretty bad in my opinion so I want to prevent going there for as long as possible. Also I have found my very presence kinda pisses off people who really don't like me the fact I haven't given up makes them mad, I like pissing off people who don't like me and I don't like either, makes me feel all good inside LOL. 1  out of 9 found this valuable. Do you?    
timberrattler
timberrattler
18. RE: What Is The Point of Survivalism For You?
Jul 26 2012, 5:49 AM EDT | Post edited: Jul 26 2012, 5:49 AM EDT
"to prolong my life as long as possible, i want to live as long as the average guy in my family lives(about 50 or so). because as an atheist I beleive when a person dies basically what happens is you enter oblivion(basically nothingness) it is all over game over that sounds pretty bad in my opinion so I want to prevent going there for as long as possible. Also I have found my very presence kinda pisses off people who really don't like me the fact I haven't given up makes them mad, I like pissing off people who don't like me and I don't like either, makes me feel all good inside LOL."
There you have it folks, a teenager that has it all figured out. I no longer have to search for the meaning of life.

Spend your life "pissing off people who don't like you". How about ignoring them all together and spending your time helping out the people who do like you? Just a suggestion.

Oh and if there is nobody that likes you maybe your attitude has something to do with that. Not everyone you meet in life is going to like you and guess what? It doesn't f*cking matter. Dwelling on it is a waste of valuable time.
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11ACRBlackhorse
11ACRBlackhorse
19. RE: What Is The Point of Survivalism For You?
Jul 26 2012, 5:58 AM EDT | Post edited: Jul 26 2012, 5:58 AM EDT
"There you have it folks, a teenager that has it all figured out. I no longer have to search for the meaning of life.

Spend your life "pissing off people who don't like you". How about ignoring them all together and spending your time helping out the people who do like you? Just a suggestion.

Oh and if there is nobody that likes you maybe your attitude has something to do with that. Not everyone you meet in life is going to like you and guess what? It doesn't f*cking matter. Dwelling on it is a waste of valuable time."
^this^
In a few years their likes and dislikes won't matter anymore.

By letting them get under your skin, you're letting them win twice.

Having fun regardless of what they say or do or think is best for you and your loved ones.
Plus stress will also kill you but without the joy.

Live longer by forgetting them and moving on.
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