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LJ126
LJ126
20. RE: What Is The Point of Survivalism For You?
Jul 26 2012, 12:14 PM EDT | Post edited: Jul 26 2012, 12:14 PM EDT
"to prolong my life as long as possible, i want to live as long as the average guy in my family lives(about 50 or so). because as an atheist I beleive when a person dies basically what happens is you enter oblivion(basically nothingness) it is all over game over that sounds pretty bad in my opinion so I want to prevent going there for as long as possible. Also I have found my very presence kinda pisses off people who really don't like me the fact I haven't given up makes them mad, I like pissing off people who don't like me and I don't like either, makes me feel all good inside LOL."
Seriously man, I already sent you a PM explaining why you shouldn't post responses that make you look like a complete tool. What you're doing looks like a cry for attention. Well buddy, you got it. Is there something that we can do for you?
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Carnack
Carnack
21. RE: What Is The Point of Survivalism For You?
Jul 26 2012, 3:09 PM EDT | Post edited: Jul 26 2012, 3:13 PM EDT
"to prolong my life as long as possible, i want to live as long as the average guy in my family lives(about 50 or so). because as an atheist I beleive when a person dies basically what happens is you enter oblivion(basically nothingness) it is all over game over that sounds pretty bad in my opinion so I want to prevent going there for as long as possible. Also I have found my very presence kinda pisses off people who really don't like me the fact I haven't given up makes them mad, I like pissing off people who don't like me and I don't like either, makes me feel all good inside LOL."
So...you want to get beat up, robbed, shot, and left for dead...for lulz?

See it's pretty simple. Cause and effect. If you cause trouble the effect is you getting ejected like violent ********** because right now people need to suck it up and deal.

After? The lions will be out and the mouthy twits will get eaten very fast.
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randomknife666
randomknife666
22. RE: What Is The Point of Survivalism For You?
Jul 26 2012, 3:44 PM EDT | Post edited: Jul 26 2012, 3:44 PM EDT
An insurance policy. A mental exercise. You name it, I have a lot of reasons for this.

It also doesn't hurt that through survivalism I have gotten much closer to my roots.
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shadowmancer
shadowmancer
23. RE: What Is The Point of Survivalism For You?
Jul 26 2012, 4:15 PM EDT | Post edited: Jul 26 2012, 4:15 PM EDT
"So...you want to get beat up, robbed, shot, and left for dead...for lulz?
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Now now Carnack he could just be really into s&m.
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mr.jimborisin
mr.jimborisin
24. RE: What Is The Point of Survivalism For You?
Jul 26 2012, 4:54 PM EDT | Post edited: Jul 26 2012, 4:54 PM EDT
"I'm not directing this response to you - you probably know this - but others may not. I don't want someone to find out the hard way because what lies after this sentence is NOT common knowledge.

Raw acorns are toxic. They become edible *after processing.* Raw, they can be dangerous due to the extremely high levels of tannins. Do not eat acorns that have been sitting on ground for weeks, as these can get rotten. Select fresh looking, light brown, unblemished nuts that are fresh drops,or those collected by squirrels. Eat the squirrel too, they're tasty.

To prepare the acorns, they need to be shelled, the meat inside soaked and rinsed over and over again, then strained and dried in a warm oven or in direct sunlight. The processed acorn meat can be cooked and eaten in a variety of ways afterward. It can be pounded flat, ground into flour with a mill, or eaten straight. You can make acorn butter as well.

If you save the first soaking brew that remains from the acorns, it can be used to process leather. "Tanning" leather requires tannins and tannic acid. Fun stuff."
trust me dud i know this already you can collect the acorns then soak them in water with ash for two or three days then they will be safe because it draws out the acid
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wantmarmite
wantmarmite
25. RE: What Is The Point of Survivalism For You?
Jul 26 2012, 6:50 PM EDT | Post edited: Jul 26 2012, 6:50 PM EDT
"Now now Carnack he could just be really into s&m."
Pain is pleasure, it hurts so good!


*snicker* I doubt that's his deal.
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NotAlice
NotAlice
26. RE: What Is The Point of Survivalism For You?
Jul 26 2012, 7:23 PM EDT | Post edited: Jul 26 2012, 7:23 PM EDT
Meanwhile, back on topic: 3 things define my view of survivalism.

First, I, too, love the toys. The ones I make, even more than the ones I acquire,

Second, I love the learning. If I;m not learning, I'm dying.

Third, It is reasonable, rational insurance. I never expect to see a zombie, but in Minnesota, weather trumps all preparations. Floods, winds-straightline and tornadic, snow-drifts and blizzards, rain, hail, heat, the whole shebang. Which in turn leads to the various power out events. Cripes, you'd be an idiot NOT to prepare!
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duterfel
duterfel
27. RE: What Is The Point of Survivalism For You?
Aug 19 2012, 11:26 AM EDT | Post edited: Aug 19 2012, 11:30 AM EDT
What is the point of survival in the first place? Its in all of us, isnt it? We all have the drive to carry on even in the face of extreme adversity. Its the reason we pick ourselves up after being knocked down...so many times...so many ways. Somehow we always find a way to pull ourselves back together and simply soldier on.

Self preservation is in all of us and it is a very powerful thing, but whats even stronger than that is the desire to protect your freinds and family. I train and prepare and practice to survive so that I can effectivley care for and protect those people that I care about.

When the SHTF...people will be looking to me to keep them alive...and I dont want to let them down. Some of these people just dont have the skills or the tools to get through the really bad stuff. They know that I do, and they are counting on me and people like me to carry them through the worst of it.

So I guess the point of survival for me is...the longer I live...the longer the people I'm protecting live...because honestly, most of them dont stand a snowballs chance in hell of making it through an apocolyptic event.
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The_survivalist
28. RE: What Is The Point of Survivalism For You?
Aug 19 2012, 7:52 PM EDT | Post edited: Aug 19 2012, 7:52 PM EDT
to survive is proof that you're superior to those who did not.
i'm inferior to others in so many ways, for once i'd like to be better in something.
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NotAlice
NotAlice
29. RE: What Is The Point of Survivalism For You?
Aug 19 2012, 8:17 PM EDT | Post edited: Aug 19 2012, 8:17 PM EDT
"to survive is proof that you're superior to those who did not.
i'm inferior to others in so many ways, for once i'd like to be better in something. "
Could be proof, could be luck. Never discount the hand of Lady Luck.

Inferior? Who isn't? We all have weaknesses, just don't let them overwhelm you. I'm middlin' old, not very strong, prone to depession, etc. Being a survivor is a victory over yourself or myself. That's why we plan - to compensate for our lacks. Inferior or superior isn't the point, surviving is. (sorry about the soapbox, I didn't mean to preach at you.)
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OneManRiot-ModelA1
OneManRiot-ModelA1
30. RE: What Is The Point of Survivalism For You?
Aug 19 2012, 10:09 PM EDT | Post edited: Aug 19 2012, 10:09 PM EDT
Five years ago my answer would have been far different. I valued my life above nearly everything else. But now I could care less about my own life when I look at my two boys. If I thought my death would help ensure they grow up, than dead I would be. Fatherhood seems to ignite a fire in a man that no longer allows him to lay Idle as many youth do today, nor does it allow him to depend or expect the world to care for him and his. Learning new or arcane skills for surviving petter prepares me to usher my sons into adulthood. It gives the survivor the ability to feed on chaos itself and overcome it by doing so. 5  out of 5 found this valuable. Do you?    
Carnack
Carnack
31. RE: What Is The Point of Survivalism For You?
Aug 20 2012, 12:50 AM EDT | Post edited: Aug 20 2012, 12:50 AM EDT
"Five years ago my answer would have been far different. I valued my life above nearly everything else. But now I could care less about my own life when I look at my two boys. If I thought my death would help ensure they grow up, than dead I would be. Fatherhood seems to ignite a fire in a man that no longer allows him to lay Idle as many youth do today, nor does it allow him to depend or expect the world to care for him and his. Learning new or arcane skills for surviving petter prepares me to usher my sons into adulthood. It gives the survivor the ability to feed on chaos itself and overcome it by doing so."
For some reason I *really* like this answer.
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shadowmancer
shadowmancer
32. RE: What Is The Point of Survivalism For You?
Aug 20 2012, 9:08 PM EDT | Post edited: Aug 20 2012, 9:09 PM EDT
"Five years ago my answer would have been far different. I valued my life above nearly everything else. But now I could care less about my own life when I look at my two boys. If I thought my death would help ensure they grow up, than dead I would be. Fatherhood seems to ignite a fire in a man that no longer allows him to lay Idle as many youth do today, nor does it allow him to depend or expect the world to care for him and his. Learning new or arcane skills for surviving petter prepares me to usher my sons into adulthood. It gives the survivor the ability to feed on chaos itself and overcome it by doing so."
I have to agree this is an excellent answer. I really like it too Carnack, kind of restores the old faith in humanity.
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dallasc7@live.com
33. RE: What Is The Point of Survivalism For You?
Oct 3 2012, 1:07 PM EDT | Post edited: Oct 3 2012, 1:07 PM EDT
fantastic .... My dad died...he was my world.... then my mother decided to choose drugs over helping me and my brother so I would have chosen to survive to take my anger out on others and to exact my revenge *wrongfully* but... ya know..... anyways now I realize it would be for my little brother and my wife and her family, simply because I promised my father on his death bed that I would protect and help my little brother and my wife's family took me in and fed me clothed me and put a roof over my head even though they didn't have the money... Do you find this valuable?    
timberrattler
timberrattler
34. RE: What Is The Point of Survivalism For You?
Oct 3 2012, 1:43 PM EDT | Post edited: Oct 3 2012, 1:43 PM EDT
"fantastic .... My dad died...he was my world.... then my mother decided to choose drugs over helping me and my brother so I would have chosen to survive to take my anger out on others and to exact my revenge *wrongfully* but... ya know..... anyways now I realize it would be for my little brother and my wife and her family, simply because I promised my father on his death bed that I would protect and help my little brother and my wife's family took me in and fed me clothed me and put a roof over my head even though they didn't have the money..."
Sorry for your loss.
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Zee-Man
Zee-Man
35. RE: What Is The Point of Survivalism For You?
Oct 3 2012, 8:25 PM EDT | Post edited: Oct 3 2012, 8:28 PM EDT
So many very good responses. It does a body good to not feel alone.

On the surface survivalism for me is an insurance policy. I grew up reading about survival stuff like in Hatchet, My Side of the Mountain, White Fang, etc. I enjoyed the bushcraft and pioneering from Boy Scouts and never really lost the bug. It gave me a feeling of, what else, being prepared.

I love learning. I never stop it. I am consciously aware of it most all of my day. My ex called it taking everything to the n'th degree. I could be learning to be the uberest at Minecraft (ok, it is fun) or I could be scientifically approaching natural cordage. I could be picking the flaws out of modern crime drama TV, or I could spend 6 hours learning about flax processing through linen weaving. I could dream about driving a Stingray or plan the steps of carving a bow.. These are no brainer choices for me.

My folks came up through the Great Depression. I came up with stores of home canned food in the cellar. Stocking up isn't new to me. It actually feels strange to live in an apartment, not have a garden, not have a cellar.

I too know I must continue to be of aid to my offspring. OneMan, your post was very moving to me. The moment I caught my son out of his mother's womb was poignantly life changing. 2 years later when I caught my daughter was no different. They are both wonderful young adults. Even so, I WILL be around to be there for them.

Lately though, I have realized that it is the confidence in my self-reliance that has me "addicted" to this lifestyle. It is similar to the feeling I obtained from martial arts. It is more pervasive. I look at the world differently, more securely. With so much fear and uncertainty everywhere, I stand -- prepared.

Edit: Fixed a poor metaphor, emphasis on pubs. spelling
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dallasc7@live.com
36. RE: What Is The Point of Survivalism For You?
Oct 3 2012, 9:26 PM EDT | Post edited: Oct 3 2012, 9:26 PM EDT
Thank you tumberrattler I have come to peace with it now but tthat does mean a lot Do you find this valuable?    
real2all1
real2all1
37. RE: What Is The Point of Survivalism For You?
Oct 24 2012, 9:07 PM EDT | Post edited: Oct 24 2012, 9:07 PM EDT
Everybody wants to go to heaven but no one wants to die. Survival for me is seeing my family and myself live another day. Living to the next and the next and so on... I know weapons and strategic situations and so on. I try to plan on the living and not wasting time on the dead... If I can keep my family living then my job on this world is done. My family doesn't even know the full set up I will try and leave them, even If am not here to see them through the "Armageddon". I just hope that I'm not the only one seeing the writing on the wall. Do you find this valuable?    
BrerWulf
BrerWulf
38. RE: What Is The Point of Survivalism For You?
Dec 12 2012, 10:07 AM EST | Post edited: Dec 12 2012, 10:07 AM EST
The point should be survival of ones self, family, friends, neighbors and then community. That is Natures Laws of survival. In these days, it also means survival against the government, the cops who blindly follow orders like a pig follows truffles, survival against those idiots who laughed at us while we were prepping and now they don't have a pot to piss in and the minorities who will be rioting and looting in the streets, shooting everything white they see. It's happened before many times.
It means making a country livable again, if possible, and making it safe for OUR children and grandchildren. Survivalism will also mean killing off any politician that have been bunkered down themselves so when they pop up trying to impose their laws on us again, we take them out and start from scratch.
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crocodilecommando
crocodilecommando
39. RE: What Is The Point of Survivalism For You?
Dec 12 2012, 10:33 AM EST | Post edited: Dec 12 2012, 10:33 AM EST
"to prolong my life as long as possible, i want to live as long as the average guy in my family lives(about 50 or so). because as an atheist I beleive when a person dies basically what happens is you enter oblivion(basically nothingness) it is all over game over that sounds pretty bad in my opinion so I want to prevent going there for as long as possible. Also I have found my very presence kinda pisses off people who really don't like me the fact I haven't given up makes them mad, I like pissing off people who don't like me and I don't like either, makes me feel all good inside LOL."
Then why not be a politician?
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