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Zee-Man
Zee-Man
What will you leave behind?
Oct 6 2012, 8:14 AM EDT | Post edited: Oct 6 2012, 2:42 PM EDT
OK scavengers here is a thread that everyone can help with. Up front this one has a surprise ending.

Scenario

You are in a typical modern tract home. Two story with a full unfinished basement. It is 1 month since a major depopulation due to zombie virus so you have few qualms about theft. Amazingly this area has had no zombie activity for a week. Also amazingly there are no raiders about, that is your well trained and organized scouts have seen no evidence.

You are leading a scavenger team. The question - what will you leave behind? You are generally safe morally and physically. You have plenty of time. In this scenario you have any hand tool you can think of coming from Homely Depot. What will you NOT take.

Spoiler alert - kludges and makers keep it to yourself! The second part will be a companion thread to see the uses of the Undesired.

Here is the companion thread Things that Didn't Get Taken

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Edit: Installed link to companion page
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Zresistance
Zresistance
1. RE: What will you leave behind?
Oct 6 2012, 8:26 AM EDT | Post edited: Oct 6 2012, 8:26 AM EDT
Drywalling tools ..hate haveing to hang drywall anyway Do you find this valuable?    
AlphaOneFour
AlphaOneFour
2. RE: What will you leave behind?
Oct 6 2012, 9:16 AM EDT | Post edited: Oct 6 2012, 9:16 AM EDT
This was the first list that sprung to mind.

One thing that I wish to make clear is that given enough manpower and time, I would pretty much strip a house bare,a s so much of the stuff inside can be used or repurposed. So I have imposed a few conditions, which are lsited below.

I ass-u-me 8-10 people in the team, as the scouts are keeping watch and thus are not available for hauling duties.
We can make at most two trips, after which either the scavenger team wants to move on, or the scouts say it's not safe anymore.

The list:
>Any highly specialised tools that won't be useful (such as the above drywall tools)
>Most of the furniture and household appliances.
>Canned food ONLY IF there's a huge amount of dried food available.
>Bodies. We might bury them, but we won't lug them around after us just to take them to some sacred ground or other. A simple grave, a carved marker, and a few words ("in you go" springs to mind).
>Electrical appliances and cables
>Most plastic stuff
>Carpets and soft furnishings
>Light bulbs
>Bottles of low ABV alcohol (meaning anything weaker than 20% such as wine and beer)
>Precious metals
>Heavy metal items such as wrought iron gates
>Large vehicle parts (like sheets of metal from the body)
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PedroAsani
PedroAsani
3. RE: What will you leave behind?
Oct 6 2012, 12:43 PM EDT | Post edited: Oct 6 2012, 12:43 PM EDT
Wait, I have all the time in the world to scavenge?

All you would find at the end is the hole that used to be the basement, and probably some mortar dust from tiles we scraped up and took with us.

Every damn thing can be useful. And if you can't think of a use for it, I certainly will.
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BigLoki
BigLoki
4. RE: What will you leave behind?
Oct 6 2012, 12:59 PM EDT | Post edited: Oct 6 2012, 12:59 PM EDT
I (as much as it pains me *jk) agree with Pedro. However since you said this is a purpose thread, I'll limit myself anyway.

I would leave:
- The cheap power tools. No sense in taking the crap.

- Same with the hand tools, lesser quality would be left.

- Dishes I don't already have plenty of.

- nick nacks

- Photos of people I don't know.

Pretty much everything else would be gone honestly. I mean to pulling the wires from the walls, the plumbing, cabinets make good firewood... literally nearly everything. If I have unlimited time, and relative safety... I'd be a piss poor scavenger if there was anything left in there for me to kick myself for lacking later.
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adams-usmc
adams-usmc
5. RE: What will you leave behind?
Oct 6 2012, 1:44 PM EDT | Post edited: Oct 6 2012, 1:44 PM EDT
This thread is a hoarders worst nightmare! Lol "No, I want to keep it...I'm gonna use it one day!" I agree with Alpha, and Loki. Both of them pretty much sum up what I would do. Do you find this valuable?    
Zee-Man
Zee-Man
6. RE: What will you leave behind?
Oct 6 2012, 2:29 PM EDT | Post edited: Oct 6 2012, 2:29 PM EDT
Yes, I too am of the mind that only a hole would remain.

Like an old CRT tv , I would leave them behind (or would I ???)

There are obvious things that are generally accepted as taken, such as dry foods, even canned foods, bottled water maybe.

Just to be clear, this thread is to find out what things have little or no value to people.
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Braydonn
Braydonn
7. RE: What will you leave behind?
Oct 6 2012, 4:12 PM EDT | Post edited: Oct 6 2012, 4:12 PM EDT
This thread is so hard! Everything can be used for something! I'll just have to say ditto to Pedro, if we had a ton of time, the whole house would be gone!

You know what I'd leave behind! .... Garden gnomes. I hate those things!
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11ACRBlackhorse
11ACRBlackhorse
8. RE: What will you leave behind?
Oct 6 2012, 9:38 PM EDT | Post edited: Oct 6 2012, 9:38 PM EDT
Prioritize from most useful to least useful.
Every trip increases your chance of being seen.
Or someone getting hurt.
Plus manpower will be at a premium during planting and harvesting.

So for the first few trips most of the building will remain.
Drywall will be pretty much useless till you need it for your soil.
I would try to build solid walls.
Our thinly sheathed stick homes are not really defensible.
Most electronics will be useless without satellites, cable, or cell
towers. What you already own should hold you with DVDs and such.
But this is also a power hog. Don't think multiple appliances and entertainment systems will be needed.
Especially with most of whatever power you have will be already taken with just surviving.
Powered exercise machines will also be almost useless.
Now their motors will be useful for building a power generation system.

There will be more stuff than you will need or want.
Unless you just happen to have a spare warehouse to store all the stuff.
Otherwise chose carefully.
Every pound has to be hauled back.
Be it on your backs, on pack animals, in animal drawn wagons/carts or even a motor vehicle or two. Space and weight is limited.
It will take months to haul off a single home completely.
Then you have to properly store them or they will get damaged by the elements.
So then you just did all that labor for nothing.
It's nice to think we can salvage everything.
But if you have nowhere to store it or use it soon it will just rot/rust away.

Keeping a structurally sound building intact as a storage building makes sense.
Or just leave it were it is till needed. It is at least protected from the elements.

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duterfel
duterfel
9. RE: What will you leave behind?
Oct 7 2012, 1:54 AM EDT | Post edited: Oct 7 2012, 1:54 AM EDT
All I'm leaving behind is empty beer cans, casings and corpses. Do you find this valuable?    
Scott_Philips
Scott_Philips
10. RE: What will you leave behind?
Oct 7 2012, 6:59 AM EDT | Post edited: Oct 7 2012, 6:59 AM EDT
My mother-in-law. Do you find this valuable?    
x-wolfhunter
x-wolfhunter
11. RE: What will you leave behind?
Oct 8 2012, 9:24 AM EDT | Post edited: Oct 8 2012, 9:24 AM EDT
Well, if I have a premade list of supplies we're running low on/need, that'd be my priority, but otherwise, I'd just tell my scavengers and I to get things that look useful/are rare. Things like food, seeds, ammo, weapons (Melee included), instruments (Moral always needs a boost), etc.

Also, I like what AlphaOneFour said about the bodies. Not gonna do anything super special, but a proper burial is deserved.
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OutlawJames
OutlawJames
12. RE: What will you leave behind?
Oct 8 2012, 1:18 PM EDT | Post edited: Oct 8 2012, 3:13 PM EDT
Anything I dont absolutely need right now.
If there are no appearant raiders and little or no zombie activity.
Why tye down time scavaging ( all the houses around you will have the same basic things to scavage.)

I would spend the time on fortifying immediate area, starting crops, setting up all the goodies I had the foresight to aquire and store for power supply and water production.
This is assuming I am reading the OP right.. " What would I leave behind?" at the place I am scavaging?
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Zee-Man
Zee-Man
13. RE: What will you leave behind?
Oct 8 2012, 6:27 PM EDT | Post edited: Oct 8 2012, 6:27 PM EDT
So far all replies are coming from folks who already have ideas for using everything. A14 has come the closest to the spirit of the thread - what has little value to you. I rather thought we would get input from the scavenger set who might not see the uses of "useless" items.
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adams-usmc
adams-usmc
14. RE: What will you leave behind?
Oct 8 2012, 11:32 PM EDT | Post edited: Oct 8 2012, 11:32 PM EDT
"So far all replies are coming from folks who already have ideas for using everything. A14 has come the closest to the spirit of the thread - what has little value to you. I rather thought we would get input from the scavenger set who might not see the uses of "useless" items.
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I would ONLY take the following:

Hand tools
Canned/dry food
Wiring
Building supplies (wood, nails, screws, cement)
Any useable pieces of metal
Silverware (to be melted down to make weapons)
Tires
Automotive equipment
Fuel of ANY kind (coal, kerosene, gasoline, diesel, propane, etc.)
Blankets (to take back to BOL for winter)
Ammo
Weapons
Any water I find
Batteries of any kin
Cordage or rope

I would not take:

Electronics
Perishable foods
Appliances
Beds
Carpet
Clothing (unless it is essential like winter coats, or socks)
Vehicles
Dishes (I already have plenty)
Toys

That's all I can think of right now, I'm sure there is more.
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SuperSoldierRCP
SuperSoldierRCP
15. RE: What will you leave behind?
Oct 9 2012, 3:00 AM EDT | Post edited: Oct 9 2012, 3:00 AM EDT
"I would not take:

Electronics
Perishable foods
Appliances
Beds
Carpet
Clothing (unless it is essential like winter coats, or socks)
Vehicles
Dishes (I already have plenty)
Toys"
I have to disagree.
Parishable food= rats/mice...There are nothing but protein(meat)
Toys= Baby monitors, child motion sensors, all those little toys that are RC cars. throw a camera on there its a recon unit. Hell those skybot cars are POPULAR as ****, those are recon units.
Laptops sure not SUPER important but if you cna charge them headphones/DVD will keep the smallest of children entertained where you work. Plus Video Diary's of your activities are important
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adams-usmc
adams-usmc
16. RE: What will you leave behind?
Oct 9 2012, 7:32 AM EDT | Post edited: Oct 9 2012, 7:32 AM EDT
"I have to disagree.
Parishable food= rats/mice...There are nothing but protein(meat)
Toys= Baby monitors, child motion sensors, all those little toys that are RC cars. throw a camera on there its a recon unit. Hell those skybot cars are POPULAR as ****, those are recon units.
Laptops sure not SUPER important but if you cna charge them headphones/DVD will keep the smallest of children entertained where you work. Plus Video Diary's of your activities are important"
I agree. But Zee-man wanted to see what was most important to us. In a perfect setting I would take everything, but I chose to leave some things behind. All of it is useful, but some are more useful than others.
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Zee-Man
Zee-Man
17. RE: What will you leave behind?
Oct 9 2012, 7:55 AM EDT | Post edited: Oct 9 2012, 7:55 AM EDT
"I have to disagree.
....."
The companion thread linked in the OP is for your uses of the undesired : )
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11ACRBlackhorse
11ACRBlackhorse
18. RE: What will you leave behind?
Oct 9 2012, 10:34 AM EDT | Post edited: Oct 9 2012, 10:34 AM EDT
"I have to disagree.
Parishable food= rats/mice...There are nothing but protein(meat)
Toys= Baby monitors, child motion sensors, all those little toys that are RC cars. throw a camera on there its a recon unit. Hell those skybot cars are POPULAR as ****, those are recon units.
Laptops sure not SUPER important but if you cna charge them headphones/DVD will keep the smallest of children entertained where you work. Plus Video Diary's of your activities are important"
Most of these are of limited range and durability.
Most RC aircraft (toys) can't haul much if any payload.
They are easily frequency jammed and or hijacked.
Usually the RC models that have any payload require gas
Then they are noisy and still limited to to mostly visual range.
Even if you can add a camera you will need to transmit it back to you for live feed or have a recorder on board to store all you have recorded.
Most remote systems (toy) don't have the extra band with or capacity to handle camera footage.
A laptop might be nice but your power supply and spare capacity will limit any extras.
You might be better off getting non electrical toys for the kids.
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CDSm101-800s
CDSm101-800s
19. RE: What will you leave behind?
Oct 10 2012, 9:18 PM EDT | Post edited: Oct 10 2012, 9:19 PM EDT
Can I leave behind my ex-wife????

I would take anything remotely useful to me. Depending on time, even the carpets and pink insulation. All have uses.

What I would leave behind is most electronics. As I expect power to be a luxury at best, non existant at worse, it would be no use. Unless I have a project in mind, or need to smelt copper....

Power tools left behind also, unless I intend to salvage a component for something..

Pictures of ppls I don't know are useless, but the glass in the panes may be useful. Knick nacks etc.. leave them behind. I doubt anybody would be impress with an extensive collection of royal dalton figurines or like post appoc.
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