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SteelRain
SteelRain
60. RE: Gotta come clean
Feb 3 2013, 9:14 PM EST | Post edited: Feb 3 2013, 9:14 PM EST
"Carrion Crow - Fu(k Nuttin Fancy.

If your looking for a good weapons You Tube channel look up the Russian. That dude shoots all kinds of cool guns and blows a lot of shlt up. "
That lucky bastard got to fire a minigun. That's still my favorite video.
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Carnack
Carnack
61. RE: Gotta come clean
Feb 3 2013, 9:19 PM EST | Post edited: Feb 3 2013, 9:19 PM EST
Miniguns are always fun to watch. ^-^ Do you find this valuable?    
DevilNuts
DevilNuts
62. RE: Gotta come clean
Feb 3 2013, 9:20 PM EST | Post edited: Feb 3 2013, 9:20 PM EST
"Actually he'll thrill me when he sets that brain on a target that isn't me.

He is DevilNuts: The A$hole Ex-Admin of the ZSDW "
Well at least now we have something in common - Zero gun ownership.
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Carnack
Carnack
63. RE: Gotta come clean
Feb 3 2013, 9:23 PM EST | Post edited: Feb 3 2013, 9:23 PM EST
"Well at least now we have something in common - Zero gun ownership. "
Which I never woulda guessed about you.
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DevilNuts
DevilNuts
64. RE: Gotta come clean
Feb 3 2013, 9:29 PM EST | Post edited: Feb 3 2013, 9:30 PM EST
"Which I never woulda guessed about you."
Judging purely from the outside looking in, they seem to have a near-universal crutch effect on discussions of survival. I don't really regret not having any.
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DevilNuts
DevilNuts
65. RE: Gotta come clean
Feb 3 2013, 9:33 PM EST | Post edited: Feb 3 2013, 9:33 PM EST
It seems like many gun owners would prefer to *default* to shooting their way out of any adverse situation, whereas I would prefer (whether guns are involved or not) thinking my way out of the same situation.

The two are indeed not mutually exclusive, but I think there is a tendency for firearms to significantly shorten the foresight of those who wield them, potentially resulting in shooting their way into a situation they can't shoot their way out of.
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Carnack
Carnack
66. RE: Gotta come clean
Feb 3 2013, 9:38 PM EST | Post edited: Feb 3 2013, 9:38 PM EST
"Judging purely from the outside looking in, they seem to have a near-universal crutch effect on discussions of survival. I don't really regret not having any. "
Mm I can see that but honestly if I buy a gun it would likely be for the same reason I buy knives.

Coolness and the sheer joy of owning them. classic pattern 1911 Colt, Colt Python with dark wooden grips, Double-barreled 12g shotgun, Remington 870, Thompson M1A1.

Gives me a thrill up my leg thinking of those pretty hardwoods. The clean lines.
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Carnack
Carnack
67. RE: Gotta come clean
Feb 3 2013, 9:41 PM EST | Post edited: Feb 3 2013, 9:41 PM EST
"It seems like many gun owners would prefer to *default* to shooting their way out of any adverse situation, whereas I would prefer (whether guns are involved or not) thinking my way out of the same situation.

The two are indeed not mutually exclusive, but I think there is a tendency for firearms to significantly shorten the foresight of those who wield them, potentially resulting in shooting their way into a situation they can't shoot their way out of. "
This is true. It seems to make people vastly overconfident in their abilities.

A magful of courage. Dumb courage of course.
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Carrion_Crow
Carrion_Crow
68. RE: Gotta come clean
Feb 3 2013, 9:48 PM EST | Post edited: Feb 3 2013, 9:48 PM EST
"This is true. It seems to make people vastly overconfident in their abilities.

A magful of courage. Dumb courage of course."
How may I ask, do you plan to defend yourself?
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Carnack
Carnack
69. RE: Gotta come clean
Feb 3 2013, 9:51 PM EST | Post edited: Feb 3 2013, 9:51 PM EST
"How may I ask, do you plan to defend yourself?"
My mind.

Of course I plan on getting a gun eventually but I fully intend to attempt to think my way out first...or try to avoid it to begin with.
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Falter
Falter
70. RE: Gotta come clean
Feb 3 2013, 10:03 PM EST | Post edited: Feb 3 2013, 10:03 PM EST
"It seems like many gun owners would prefer to *default* to shooting their way out of any adverse situation, whereas I would prefer (whether guns are involved or not) thinking my way out of the same situation.

The two are indeed not mutually exclusive, but I think there is a tendency for firearms to significantly shorten the foresight of those who wield them, potentially resulting in shooting their way into a situation they can't shoot their way out of. "
There is a lot of truth to that. To clarify I do separate shooting out of a situation from shooting into a situation.

If your in a situation it will likely be sneak out, shoot out, or negotiate. Generally I would prefer to sneak out but when that fails shooting out because negotiating is just to risky. But that is if your in a situation.

Really if people do their due diligence in avoiding being in a situation then hopefully they won't need the gun but it is better to have and not need then need and not have. Unfortunately I think that some people have a tendency to get into a mentality of "have and must use" which is bad. Have and not use is good, need and not have is bad, have and must use is bad.
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oldannyboy37
oldannyboy37
71. RE: Gotta come clean
Feb 3 2013, 10:12 PM EST | Post edited: Feb 3 2013, 10:12 PM EST
"It seems like many gun owners would prefer to *default* to shooting their way out of any adverse situation, whereas I would prefer (whether guns are involved or not) thinking my way out of the same situation.

The two are indeed not mutually exclusive, but I think there is a tendency for firearms to significantly shorten the foresight of those who wield them, potentially resulting in shooting their way into a situation they can't shoot their way out of. "
Screw that. Gunfights are bad for your health.
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MajorDamage
MajorDamage
72. RE: Gotta come clean
Feb 3 2013, 10:21 PM EST | Post edited: Feb 3 2013, 10:21 PM EST
"Screw that. Gunfights are bad for your health. "
only if you don't use the lead-free ammo and breathe deeply while mowing down wave after wave of intruders
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shadowmancer
shadowmancer
73. RE: Gotta come clean
Feb 3 2013, 11:19 PM EST | Post edited: Feb 3 2013, 11:20 PM EST
Default cructch? nahhh not my crutch of choice :P

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Sharpie41
Sharpie41
74. RE: Gotta come clean
Feb 4 2013, 12:00 AM EST | Post edited: Feb 4 2013, 12:00 AM EST
"Carrion Crow - Fu(k Nuttin Fancy.

If your looking for a good weapons You Tube channel look up the Russian. That dude shoots all kinds of cool guns and blows a lot of shlt up. "
You mean the fake Russian?

He's an idiot too, but he's a lot more entertaining than TNP.
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White76Knight
White76Knight
75. RE: Gotta come clean
Feb 4 2013, 10:35 AM EST | Post edited: Feb 4 2013, 10:35 AM EST
"My mind.

Of course I plan on getting a gun eventually but I fully intend to attempt to think my way out first...or try to avoid it to begin with."
I've often said this as well. Anyone who has looked at my Wishlist Weapons page and seen all the hardware that I want to be carrying around might think that I expect to style myself as some Would-Be Rambo, charging with guns blazing into horde after horde of zeds, secure in the knowledge that I am untouchable because of all the baddassery that I'm toting around. This simply isn't so.

A half a dozen guns is, to me at least, just a half a dozen options. It doesn't mean that any of them is the RIGHT option for the particular situation. I have no military or combat experience, and I can't even make up for the lack of it with all that elite Special Forces/Navy SeAL training that you get from playing Call of Duty (LOL) because I've never done that either, so I have no reason to think that I will be in any way qualified to inflict any Rambo-like carnage on the zeds that I encounter, hordes or otherwise.

Furthermore, I will be traveling with my wife and four children, none of whom would be any better prepared to play Rambo than I, and in the name of keeping them safe (and myself to boot), I we will be doing my best to avoid combat altogether whenever and wherever it is feasible to do so. Keeping my family safe is FAR more important to me that starring in my own personal action movie, so I figure it is far better to think my way out of a problem, and better still to think my way into avoiding the problem in the first place, than it is to go charging into a fight that I'm just as likely to lose as the other guy.

But maybe that's just me.
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shadowmancer
shadowmancer
76. RE: Gotta come clean
Feb 4 2013, 11:34 AM EST | Post edited: Feb 4 2013, 11:34 AM EST
"only if you don't use the lead-free ammo and breathe deeply while mowing down wave after wave of intruders"
lol enviromentally friendly slaughter! lol MD you sir rock.
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White76Knight
White76Knight
77. RE: Gotta come clean
Feb 4 2013, 11:57 AM EST | Post edited: Feb 4 2013, 11:57 AM EST
"lol enviromentally friendly slaughter! lol MD you sir rock."
There's a reason why he's something of a celebrity around here.
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timberrattler
timberrattler
78. RE: Gotta come clean
Feb 16 2013, 8:39 PM EST | Post edited: Feb 16 2013, 8:39 PM EST
"There's a reason why he's something of a celebrity around here."
I don't know, IamSlowRide has kind of been stealing his thunder lately.

Someday I believe that the old bull and the young bull will lock horns.
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White76Knight
White76Knight
79. RE: Gotta come clean
Feb 17 2013, 10:19 AM EST | Post edited: Feb 17 2013, 10:19 AM EST
"I don't know, IamSlowRide has kind of been stealing his thunder lately.

Someday I believe that the old bull and the young bull will lock horns."
Aw dude, can you imagine the tickets you could sell? LOL
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