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zombie-master |
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Jahadaz |
1. RE: rock climbing and repelling
Feb 5 2013, 12:09 PM EST
Thishttp://www.zombiesurvivalwiki.com/photo/14338733/Figure+8 Do you find this valuable? |
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zombie-master |
2. RE: rock climbing and repelling
Feb 5 2013, 1:31 PM EST
what happens if u need to climb up or what if u r buy your selfDo you find this valuable? |
crocodilecommando |
3. RE: rock climbing and repelling
Feb 5 2013, 1:37 PM EST
"what happens if u need to climb up or what if u r buy your selfThen I'd make sure I had some experience before hand. Do you find this valuable? |
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zombie-master |
4. RE: rock climbing and repelling
Feb 5 2013, 1:45 PM EST
yes that would be good but what type of gear would u takeDo you find this valuable? |
Markthegenius |
5. RE: rock climbing and repelling
Feb 5 2013, 1:49 PM EST
Sorry to be that guy again, but this is all I have to add to this thread.Repelling: present participle of re·pel (Verb) Verb Drive or force (an attack or attacker) back or away. (of a magnetic pole or electric field) Force (something similarly magnetized or charged) away from itself. Rapelling: Abseiling (German: abseilen, "to rope down"), rappelling in American English, is the controlled descent down a rope; climbers... Courtesy of Google, used by a pompous Brit :) 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
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zombie-master |
6. RE: rock climbing and repelling
Feb 5 2013, 2:04 PM EST
"Sorry to be that guy again, but this is all I have to add to this thread.dumb it down plz what r u really saying 0 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
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Markthegenius |
7. RE: rock climbing and repelling
Feb 5 2013, 2:55 PM EST
"dumb it down plz what r u really saying.... ... *blinks* .... *shakes head, walks away* 5 out of 5 found this valuable. Do you? |
Zee-Man |
8. RE: rock climbing and repelling
Feb 5 2013, 5:09 PM EST
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rApelling and rEpelling are different things. Rapelling can be done simply with the gear Jahadaz pictured. It can be more complex. The reverse direction, climbing, is called ascending. Which is different from free climbing. You can do this with a variety of rope hitches or with specialized equipment. There is Single Rope Technique (SRT) and Double Rope Technique (DRT). Both are very similar in most respects. I use SRT myself. I've only ever imagined that DRT involves methods that allow you to use one rope over distances that are greater than its length. Sorry, that sounds much more complex than it is. You may also find this thread interesting http://www.zombiesurvivalwiki.com/thread/5071662/Esacping+from+a+Height . Do you find this valuable? |
Falter |
9. RE: rock climbing and repelling
Feb 5 2013, 5:19 PM EST
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I would I felt the situation was feasible for me. If it involves rappelling or using rope and equipment I am skilled, although I feel I lack in the manual climbing department I am still way above average. For repelling you can use something like a stop, grigri, or one of many ATCs on the market. For ascending rope a ascender, grigri, or ATC. Manual climbing is of course strength and endurance. Then you have all the protection rack of cams, nuts, carabiners, etc and gets ridiculous. In general for SHTF I don't think I would like to go to far beyond rope (static), harness, Grigri, ATC, some carabiners (like 10 with at least 2 locking), and what can be described as climbing a glorified ladder. More likely you will be doing bare rope and/or avoiding the subject completely so knowing different methods of doing it without purpose built equipment will be needed. Do you find this valuable? |
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zombie-master |
10. RE: rock climbing and repelling
Feb 5 2013, 5:27 PM EST
thx well sorry i did not under stand all that the first time but im trying to also learn some of the gear if one wanted to climb by there self and they had no one else and lots of pics of gear would help to if u got some
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Falter |
11. RE: rock climbing and repelling
Feb 5 2013, 6:09 PM EST
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"thx well sorry i did not under stand all that the first time but im trying to also learn some of the gear if one wanted to climb by there self and they had no one else and lots of pics of gear would help to if u got some "This thread made me think back of why I stopped (granted I wasn't some extreme climber or anything). Although my mind jumps to the easy reasons like time, money, etc... It honestly comes down to being alone. Rappelling is easy enough alone and same with climbing up a rope but to be challenged and actually climb you need a partner unless you A. Just boulder short distances B. Climb without safety gear or C. do some messed up top rope technique where you climb a little and then take up the slack though a grigri or other device but that can also be dangerous or extremely limiting. New to the site so not familiar with how pictures work but will try and get some of my **** posted here. Do you find this valuable? |
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Falter |
12. RE: rock climbing and repelling
Feb 5 2013, 6:18 PM EST
Before I forget, can make a form of make shift ascenders using prusik knots with a foot loop dangling down. Not sure if I want to undertake explaining how to make them, considering its also dangerous and more a last resort method of going up a rope. Do you find this valuable? |
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Jahadaz |
13. RE: rock climbing and repelling
Feb 5 2013, 7:00 PM EST
I grew up and didn't have time for it anymore then sold most of my gear. I still have a couple of harnesses, several biners, and that figure 8, I've even got a full set of stoppers floating around somewhere but I very clearly remember selling my ascenders.
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Falter |
14. RE: rock climbing and repelling
Feb 5 2013, 8:13 PM EST
OK apparently I would need to be a writer to make a photo album here so I guess no pictures from me on the stuff so I wasted my time taking them, ow well such is life.Would hate to do follow up pictures of actually rigging it anyway ^^ Do you find this valuable? |
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Zee-Man |
15. RE: rock climbing and repelling
Feb 5 2013, 8:59 PM EST
I almost feel like we climbers ought to put a page together now. I use my rope climbing for work fairly often. Mostly it is only steep inclines, although, I have done verticals also.Do you find this valuable? |
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zombie-master |
16. RE: rock climbing and repelling
Feb 5 2013, 10:34 PM EST
I'm wondering about camming devices what do yall know about them and what can they all do?
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Falter |
17. RE: rock climbing and repelling
Feb 6 2013, 7:40 AM EST
"I'm wondering about camming devices what do yall know about them and what can they all do?"They are the devices that you stick into cracks of the rock face and feed the rope through. You fall and the rope running up them will become tight and the highest carabiner (attached to a cam that with the force of the fall will lodge itself) will be where the rope will arrests your fall. As opposed to using pitons. Do you find this valuable? |
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zombie-master |
18. RE: rock climbing and repelling
Feb 6 2013, 10:44 AM EST
is there a way to use camms and other devices to go solo climbing and repelling and if yes whar are all the devices you would need?Do you find this valuable? |
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Falter |
19. RE: rock climbing and repelling
Feb 6 2013, 1:38 PM EST
"is there a way to use camms and other devices to go solo climbing and repelling and if yes whar are all the devices you would need?Solo rappelling is easy and doesn't need cams/nuts/pitons/etc since your top roping. Partner for rappelling mostly just provides a redundancy in terms of eyes and brain so if you do something careless they might catch it before something bad happens and if something bad does then depending on the severity help you or get help, but for the most part it is something done independent of any need of teamwork. Climbing will require cams/pitons/nuts/etc unless you top rope it and that is even with a partner. Whether top roping or setting up/clipping into protection on the way it is a lot easier and safer to do with a partner to the point solo is something to avoid. If one had to do it (climbing, rappelling solo shouldn't be a big deal at all) then tieing the rope to an anchor (instead of harness) then using a mechanical device on the harness to manage the slack (not the best way for sure but it would be better than nothing) and you can do some form of danger mitigation, just not that good. Ascender for top roping, and a stop for "lead climbing". I really don't advise it though. Do you find this valuable? |
