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trippingchristy
Costco as Defensible Location
Oct 5 2007, 3:55 PM EDT | Post edited: Oct 5 2007, 3:55 PM EDT
The problem with a large retail space isn't really the zombies, but the looters. They're the ones you'll primarily be defending against, and that means potentially having to kill uninfected humans. 4  out of 6 found this valuable. Do you?    
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DETHKLOK_DETHFAN
DETHKLOK_DETHFAN
1. RE: Costco as Defensible Location
Oct 6 2007, 8:44 AM EDT | Post edited: Oct 6 2007, 8:44 AM EDT
"The problem with a large retail space isn't really the zombies, but the looters. They're the ones you'll primarily be defending against, and that means potentially having to kill uninfected humans."
Who cares? If they want to join you they can but if htey just want to loot kill them with a bat or something. It isn't hard to kill a human with a metal bat. 1  out of 5 found this valuable. Do you?    
c1nderellacastle
c1nderellacastle
2. RE: Costco as Defensible Location
Oct 6 2007, 10:05 AM EDT | Post edited: Oct 6 2007, 10:05 AM EDT
"Who cares? If they want to join you they can but if htey just want to loot kill them with a bat or something. It isn't hard to kill a human with a metal bat."
The strength of one crazed looter after a plasma Tv has got to be greater than the the strength on a zombie, metal bat or no. The only real defense against a mix of zombies and uninfected humans is to quickly flee to the wine section, and light up all the Ratatouille wine. The uninfected will be turned back thinking all the wine has gone up, and the zombies will be toasted nicely to serve with seafood dip. 2  out of 6 found this valuable. Do you?    

sixgunsblazing
3. RE: Costco as Defensible Location
Nov 2 2007, 2:32 PM EDT | Post edited: Nov 2 2007, 2:32 PM EDT
Unless they bring something to the party, they're not getting in. Period.
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PCR-00
PCR-00
4. RE: Costco as Defensible Location
Nov 2 2007, 3:04 PM EDT | Post edited: Nov 2 2007, 3:04 PM EDT
Remember, can't get a rifle with Toilet paper, but you can get toilet paper with a rifle. ;) 3  out of 5 found this valuable. Do you?    
c1nderellacastle
c1nderellacastle
5. RE: Costco as Defensible Location
Nov 2 2007, 8:05 PM EDT | Post edited: Nov 2 2007, 8:05 PM EDT
"Unless they bring something to the party, they're not getting in. Period.
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I'm starting to worry about suggesting toasted zombie in combination with seafood dip, especially the Costco brand. I suppose if they were swamp zombies, the flavors would mingle well enough. But, then, if one ate a zombie, would one become infected? Or, would the cooking process take out any hazardous toxins. I recall the Dawn of the Dead variety retaining the infectious chemistry even after burning. So, maybe it would just be best to lure them into the tire shop with misbehaved children and people that cut you off in the parking lot and light that up, leaving the wine useable for medicinal purposes. 2  out of 4 found this valuable. Do you?    
JS98010
JS98010
6. RE: Costco as Defensible Location
Nov 3 2007, 12:42 AM EDT | Post edited: Nov 3 2007, 12:42 AM EDT
"The problem with a large retail space isn't really the zombies, but the looters. They're the ones you'll primarily be defending against, and that means potentially having to kill uninfected humans."
Looters are seldom bullet-proof. A few looters' heads on pikes, prominently displayed will repel other looters. If the heads on pikes turns out to repel zombies, then bonus! If they attract zombies, that's the bait to be used in the ZombieZapper™ mentioned above.

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bundy747
bundy747
7. RE: Costco as Defensible Location
Nov 3 2007, 4:17 AM EDT | Post edited: Nov 3 2007, 4:17 AM EDT
you are very right tripp...ready my non-infected foe section reference this issue 1  out of 2 found this valuable. Do you?    
Jamoni!
Jamoni!
8. RE: Costco as Defensible Location
Mar 8 2008, 12:26 PM EST | Post edited: Mar 8 2008, 12:26 PM EST
While you guys are fighting for toilet paper with looters, I'll be kicking back in the lazy boy, because I already have everything I need to survive.
If your "plan" is "murder and steal" You don't ACTUALLY have a plan. 3  out of 3 found this valuable. Do you?    

fredskie143
9. RE: Costco as Defensible Location
Mar 24 2008, 6:40 AM EDT | Post edited: Mar 24 2008, 6:40 AM EDT
Damn looters might get away with the valuable resources.. so be sure everyone in the group you have are the ones who you can trust... Do you find this valuable?    
vanrulzz
vanrulzz
10. RE: Costco as Defensible Location
May 11 2008, 11:02 PM EDT | Post edited: May 11 2008, 11:02 PM EDT
steel doors shut. looters (and zombies) stay out. end of story. 1  out of 3 found this valuable. Do you?    
stereoagnostic
stereoagnostic
11. RE: Costco as Defensible Location
Jul 8 2008, 5:36 PM EDT | Post edited: Jul 8 2008, 5:36 PM EDT
"steel doors shut. looters (and zombies) stay out. end of story."
That's assuming that you somehow get in before anyone else. How many other people will already be there to shop, loot, or hole up? Dealing with securing the location when there are a few hundred people already in there will pose a significant challenge. You'd need at least a couple dozen organized people (armed) helping you out, and even then there's no guarantee that those few hundred people won't turn on you. 2  out of 2 found this valuable. Do you?    
indiesandy
indiesandy
12. RE: Costco as Defensible Location
May 17 2009, 2:59 PM EDT | Post edited: May 17 2009, 2:59 PM EDT
wanted to point out that they probably won't check for membership in the chaos of an apocalypse. Do you find this valuable?    
usmcfr888
usmcfr888
13. RE: Costco as Defensible Location
May 17 2009, 3:04 PM EDT | Post edited: May 17 2009, 3:04 PM EDT
"The problem with a large retail space isn't really the zombies, but the looters. They're the ones you'll primarily be defending against, and that means potentially having to kill uninfected humans."
Yep, look at the original Dawn of the Dead (Romero) or Day by Day Armagedon. Humans when put under extreme survival stress dont behave as they once did, they will do anything to survive (plus watching people eat other people would definately make someone go nuts). Plus, even if they want to join you that means more mouths to feed. Do you find this valuable?    
inu-dude25
inu-dude25
14. RE: Costco as Defensible Location
May 17 2009, 5:24 PM EDT | Post edited: May 17 2009, 5:24 PM EDT
"wanted to point out that they probably won't check for membership in the chaos of an apocalypse."
I'd be funny as hell if they did, though. :P Do you find this valuable?    
brainiac3395
brainiac3395
15. RE: Costco as Defensible Location
May 19 2009, 7:45 PM EDT | Post edited: May 19 2009, 7:45 PM EDT
it would be a pretty sad sight to think your in such a safe location then one day run of out food and not find more,id think cannabalism would be called for and lets hope your not first.zombies are not the only problem when z day will happen.imagine if prisoners escaped and they were serial killers and rapists(another group to add to a list of "who to kill") Do you find this valuable?    

ak_fred
16. RE: Costco as Defensible Location
May 19 2009, 7:49 PM EDT | Post edited: May 19 2009, 7:50 PM EDT
"wanted to point out that they probably won't check for membership in the chaos of an apocalypse."
I think I'll renew my membership.. just in case.. I dont want to get stuck at the mall with those wierdos..
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Websterish
Websterish
17. RE: Costco as Defensible Location
May 19 2009, 7:56 PM EDT | Post edited: May 19 2009, 7:56 PM EDT
"it would be a pretty sad sight to think your in such a safe location then one day run of out food and not find more,id think cannabalism would be called for and lets hope your not first.zombies are not the only problem when z day will happen.imagine if prisoners escaped and they were serial killers and rapists(another group to add to a list of "who to kill")"
I don't think on Z-day though that they will wanna kill the living, they would probably be content with killing zeds. Not all killers are blood thirsty fiends, if that was the case every member of the military who has killed would be one of those people who just want to kill. Do you find this valuable?    
NorCal_Survivors
NorCal_Survivors
18. RE: Costco as Defensible Location
May 20 2009, 10:47 AM EDT | Post edited: May 20 2009, 10:47 AM EDT
Any sensible plan has at its core a short term food supply (1 or 2 years qualifies at "short" in my book) ALREADY STORED AWAY SAFELY, plus prep for growing/raising your own long term. People who rely on taking over the local WalMart, Costco, Shopping mall, etc. as a short term solution to food and shelter are actively planning for their ultimate - albeit slight more delayed - demise. Do you find this valuable?    
brainiac3395
brainiac3395
19. RE: Costco as Defensible Location
May 20 2009, 8:01 PM EDT | Post edited: May 20 2009, 8:01 PM EDT
"Any sensible plan has at its core a short term food supply (1 or 2 years qualifies at "short" in my book) ALREADY STORED AWAY SAFELY, plus prep for growing/raising your own long term. People who rely on taking over the local WalMart, Costco, Shopping mall, etc. as a short term solution to food and shelter are actively planning for their ultimate - albeit slight more delayed - demise."
im sure costco and those other stores have plant seeds,maybe you can make an area to grow plants in and that way you will have a reliable source of food.....fertilizer is there,you got lots of water and the seeds are already there so what else could you want?
plus barricading costco would be real easy since they only have a few fire exits and one giant entrance and those shelves are pretty strong. Do you find this valuable?    
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