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Location: Seattle, Costco
Discussion: Fall Back Locations
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 c1nderellacastle |
Fall Back Locations
Nov 17 2007, 5:08 AM EST Should the nearest Costco be previously used up (strewn with bodies and the good stuff looted) , good fall back locations might be Home Depot or Lowes. While the front doors are windowed, there is enough building material in stock to secure it quickly enough. No real food in there, though one could at least pull an espresso cart from the parking lot in through the bay doors first. 5 out of 5 found this valuable. Do you? |
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Akiratima Akiratima |
RE: Fall Back Locations
Nov 17 2007, 2:26 PM EST WalMart and Sams Club. Where I live there is a WalMart and a Sams Club right next to each other. These are like fortresses. Plus they hold a ton of food, clothes, and in some...ammo. I tend to shy away from the dependance on guns so I head to either one's Lawn and Garden center. Easiest way to find a giant glavie style blade on the end of an axe-handle. Sams club has more food than anyone could need. A family of 15 could survive in there for a year. 4 out of 4 found this valuable. Do you? |
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c1nderellacastle |
RE: Fall Back Locations
Nov 17 2007, 4:43 PM EST I so agree about the guns and ammo issue. With so many survival types looking for ammo refills, the zombies may be a calming reprieve. A good fall back location would have no food or ammo, and thus would be safe from a first wave of aggressive looting. Also, we may need to consider 'fall back weapons'. Good call on raiding the garden department, Lots of pointy things there. Maybe add some propane tanks with roofing torches and a good finish nailer. BTW, can a zombie out run a garden tractor? 4 out of 4 found this valuable. Do you? |
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Akiratima Akiratima |
RE: Fall Back Locations
Nov 19 2007, 2:46 AM EST Depends on the type of tractor you're talking about. A riding lawnmower, yea...they'll tear you off of it. If you're talking about a big Farm tractor like a Massey Ferguson or a John Deer then no. I have a farm and a Massey Ferguson and in 4th gear that thing can go about 60mph. Plus the propane tanks would really wanna only be used for fuel. If you're using them as a weapon you'll end up doing more dammage to you than a group of zombies. You might rip some limbs off here and there, but even if you take off both legs they'll crawl after ya. Plus you want the place you're staying to have some ammo to beat back that aggressive first wave of looting. Ammo might be in short demand, but you need food and clean water to survive. 2 out of 2 found this valuable. Do you? |
 DaveBall |
RE: Fall Back Locations
May 8 2008, 4:44 PM EDT Do you really think your the only ones going to Wallmart. Your not, Every one will head there but not to stay but to grab every thing. By the time you can take it over any thing worth while will be gone and your big survival plan is shot. Dont think you will stand by the door and keep people out , you wont. Alot of people there to get supplies will be armed and have no problem killing you to get in. The same goes for Sams, Meijers, costco, home depo, or any other highly populated retail area.. 0 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
 Legion12 |
RE: Fall Back Locations
May 8 2008, 4:54 PM EDT I still think your house is the best place to hold out at first. Maybe the zombies win maybe they don't, if you get shot by a looter, game over. Let the looters, street gangs and zombie sort it out first. We should all have enough supplys to hold out for weeks at our houses. I would hate to think that everyone went out and bought the best firepower on the market and never stocked up on food and water 0 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
 CyprusBill |
RE: Fall Back Locations
May 9 2008, 12:46 AM EDT I'm going with Legion on this one. Step # 1: BE PREPARED!! Let the poor wretches risk their lives in town fighting over scraps (which they didn't think about until it was too late) while the zeds walk up on them. I think it aught to be an unspoken thing that the forward thinkers who've come to this site should be able to sit back in their well stocked homes and chill with their secondary escape routes mapped, their B.O.B.'s strapped on, various guns and melee weapons a-ready, and their Plan B's ready to fly, should the home become unsafe. 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
 SuperSoldierRCP |
RE: Fall Back Locations
May 11 2008, 12:08 AM EDT something similar to your old location but i have 3 fall backs Do you find this valuable? |
 alicestar |
RE: Fall Back Locations
May 11 2008, 2:23 AM EDT "Do you really think your the only ones going to Wallmart. Your not, Every one will head there but not to stay but to grab every thing. By the time you can take it over any thing worth while will be gone and your big survival plan is shot. Dont think you will stand by the door and keep people out , you wont. Alot of people there to get supplies will be armed and have no problem killing you to get in. The same goes for Sams, Meijers, costco, home depo, or any other highly populated retail area.."I agree, Sams club and wal-mart are ideas for the procrastinating mind. If you are unprepared for the attack you will need to "stock up" hell, im as stocked up as you can really get right now so my bigest worry is building a secure passage through my house from my attic to my underground shelter (converted underground steel fuel storage tank). This idea has perplexed me for the past few weeks but when its built you can bet ill be watching movies while you are rushing into riot situations at your neighborhood warehouse store!! Do you find this valuable? |
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c1nderellacastle |
RE: Fall Back Locations
May 11 2008, 7:15 AM EDT Should your own 'brick house' become compromised (like you've gone through every dvd twice), and the defensibility of nearby big box stores has been compromised (like they went 'green' and the skylights are all broken), the private warehousing of food packagers may hold promise as an undiscovered trove with millions of cans of tuna in a solid steel building and two tiny defensible doors once the shipping bay is locked down. Of course this works only as long as you can stand tuna. Do you find this valuable? |
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Akiratima Akiratima |
RE: Fall Back Locations
May 15 2008, 11:06 PM EDT Everyone likes to go on the assumption that they can hold out in their house for a long time. This is you lying to yourself. I'm sorry, but it is. Even eating the bare minimum, the house defenses will break down. Sure you can board up the doors or put bars on the windows or whatever, but if a zombies is pounding on even a solid brick wall for long enough, chunks of brick will break out of it. Chunks lead to sections and suddenly, they have a way in. Zombies don't feel pain and they don't get tired. They can and would pound on your wall non-stop until it breaks down and becomes a door for them. Even if it's steel reinforces, it will still break down. You'll basically need solid steel. Furthermore, the reason Wal-Mart, Costco, etc. will be okay to go to shortly after the main zombie uprising has set in is Because everyone else will head for those places and for several reasons. 1: A single person is calm, cool, and collected. They're rational. They would be able to process that this is a do-able scenario. A group of people, however, are easy to panic, short minded, and irrational on every level. I whole heartedly plan on zombies engaging this large crowd of people inside the Wal-Mart and Sams Club. Every person in there will be bitten and every single person will turn. Once they all turn which should be only a few days, then I head out, barricade myself in and as a calm cool collected person, I slowly eliminate every one of them. 2: If you've ever seen the construction of a Sams Club then you see that between the layers of stone there is steel reinforcement beams with a fine mesh re bar interconnecting the entire thing. If the zombies do wear down the brick outside, they won't get through the human sized and strength chicken wire mesh that lays on the other side. Plus, I never said they wouldn't be raided at least a little bit, but you should still be fine. Do you find this valuable? |
 StrykerPez |
RE: Fall Back Locations
May 15 2008, 11:35 PM EDT "I'm going with Legion on this one.Totally agree with Legion, Cyprusbill and Alicestar on this one. How people can be on this site and still think its a great idea to... well, go about the end of the world just like everybody else is beyond my mental power. Haven't you learned anything? Be prepared first, before it happens, that gives you an advantage: everybody else are going to be the ones running into a zombie infested Wal-Mart. There's no use in saying to your buddies on Z-Day, "yeah, I was on this site where they talked about when zombies attacked" if you are still just as unprepared as the rest of the morons. 0 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
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Legion12 |
RE: Fall Back Locations
May 16 2008, 11:41 AM EDT Staying at home is all a matter of the numbers. My BOB is my camper. Fully loaded I have weeks of food in that thing, not so much water but you have a chance to find water. My house has months of food, and a lot more water. I can board up windows or move to the upstair and destroy the stairs. Unless my house is on fire, and I can't stop the blaze I'm staying put. If my house is on fire I have a fire Dept next door and a hydrant in my front yard. You can always leave, you may not be able to get back. By the time you get back YOU may have been looted. 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
 Talon12 |
RE: Fall Back Locations
May 16 2008, 5:13 PM EDT Just look at the Malls and Super Stores during the holidays or big sales TOTAL CAOS Your plan A is only as good as your plan B. House is my 1st choice, and We will defend it. We are prepard enough that it will not be uncomfortable to stay there. Camper is 2nd choice, also very comfortable and defendable. 3rd choice would be, take to the water.(4,5,6....) 0 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
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StrykerPez |
RE: Fall Back Locations
May 16 2008, 6:17 PM EDT The nice thing is that my Plans A and B are interchangeable. Plan A is to stay put at my house and then drive out later, and plan B is to drive out first and find somewhere else to stay later. And there is a plan C, that is do nothing if the outbreak never gets bad. Forgot about plan D... thats to drive around and find survivors. And of course Plan A has sub-plans A.1 and A.2............ 0 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
 BigBDave |
RE: Fall Back Locations
May 17 2008, 10:21 AM EDT My plan B is to go to a farm supply store now. My new house is plan A. Plan C is to get to Lake Michigan, get a large boat (cruiser, yacht ), travel about a mile off shore. Come in and dock when I need food, gas, or when the weather gets to bad. In the winter sail up to the U.P. and find a cabin to stay in for the winter. Plan D start traveling around in an armored U-Haul, and try to hook up with other survivers. 0 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
 Sandbagger |
RE: Fall Back Locations
Jun 9 2008, 12:44 PM EDT I believe the "wal-mart as a defensive position " was dismissed some time ago, for all the obvisous reasons.Now, after an outbreak, when the population has thinned some, a prepared group can journey aot to one of the se big box stores ad raid it for supplies. I would only use a big box for a short- term redout, and only if I am some dictance from my primary defensive area. Do you find this valuable? |