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Kelen_Moonhunter
Kelen_Moonhunter
Explosives: Very Last Resort
Apr 23 2008, 8:36 PM EDT | Post edited: Apr 23 2008, 8:36 PM EDT
Honestly I think that explosives of any type, large or small blast, shrapnel or conflagration oriented, home-made or store-bought, are to besed for the absolute, dead last resort. Even then I don't think I would use one. Explosive make noise, a lot of noise. Even the small ones do and noise attracts zombies. Not only that but, some believe that certain movement and light might also attract zombies. Explosives combine many of the ills. Noise, light, and depending on what you're blasting, movement of something (bodies, structural debris, etc.). Does anyone else agree that explosives in zombie survival are bad? 7  out of 9 found this valuable. Do you?    
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Kelkesh12345
Kelkesh12345
1. RE: Explosives: Very Last Resort
Apr 25 2008, 4:31 PM EDT | Post edited: Apr 25 2008, 4:31 PM EDT
Thank you for being one of the first people to actually mention it. I would probably still end up using explosives, because in a zombie situation i would be one of the people who do rear guard. As in, give their lives to defend the rest. I would delay the undead while my friends and family ran like hell. I wonder what my life expectancy would be! Do you find this valuable?    
CyprusBill
CyprusBill
2. RE: Explosives: Very Last Resort
Apr 25 2008, 4:53 PM EDT | Post edited: Apr 25 2008, 4:53 PM EDT
Very last resort indeed. Remember, if you get stuck with flying Zombie shrapnel, that's the same death sentence as getting bitten. 2  out of 2 found this valuable. Do you?    
Kelen_Moonhunter
Kelen_Moonhunter
3. RE: Explosives: Very Last Resort
Apr 25 2008, 10:23 PM EDT | Post edited: Apr 25 2008, 10:23 PM EDT
Thank you guys for agreeing and seeing my logic so clearly. It makes think that there are more than just a handful who have common sense in our world. As for Kelkesh and your statement...hey, man, I fully understand the martyr position because I would be the first to without hesitation say that I would definately give myself up to ensure the safety of others. I still wouldn't use explosives though just because it can still cause damage to allies and the larger the blast, the louder the sound, and even though you might take down many with you the sound that rings out will draw many many more to that single location and if the survivor's supply area or shelter is nearby you run the risk of bringing even more hordes to their doorstep. I have no problem, and even stand beside martyrs (people knowing they are going to die for a good cause), but, you must know whether or not your martyrdom will do more harm than good. Do you find this valuable?    
Tuck-Duck&Roll
Tuck-Duck&Roll
4. RE: Explosives: Very Last Resort
Apr 28 2008, 8:38 AM EDT | Post edited: Apr 28 2008, 8:38 AM EDT
The only way I'd use homemade explosives, would be to construct homemade claymores or to demolish structures that would deny the zed's access to me or my group. 1  out of 1 found this valuable. Do you?    
Hazard13
Hazard13
5. RE: Explosives: Very Last Resort
Apr 29 2008, 8:50 PM EDT | Post edited: Apr 29 2008, 8:50 PM EDT
I agree. Almost all explosives rely on shrapnel, and that does not have a very good chance of hitting the brain. The ones that don't (molotovs) would be best suited for warding off hostile survivors. I would not toss a molotov at a crowd of zombies, because the only thing worse than a mob zeds is a mob of zeds on fire. Do you find this valuable?    
StrykerPez
StrykerPez
6. RE: Explosives: Very Last Resort
Apr 30 2008, 4:45 AM EDT | Post edited: Apr 30 2008, 4:45 AM EDT
I agree, but since my survival plan relies more on keeping mobile, I wouldn't hesitate to toss a claymore out of the back of the supply truck to stop the horde from following since I'll be long gone gone before any more of the undead show up. Do you find this valuable?    
alicestar
alicestar
7. RE: Explosives: Very Last Resort
Apr 30 2008, 5:15 AM EDT | Post edited: Apr 30 2008, 5:15 AM EDT
"I agree, but since my survival plan relies more on keeping mobile, I wouldn't hesitate to toss a claymore out of the back of the supply truck to stop the horde from following since I'll be long gone gone before any more of the undead show up. "
as good of an idea as that sounds stryker im gunna bet that you dont even know how a claymore works, or how to make any effective explosive in general. I know your gunna come back with "im an ex navy seal" or "my uncle bob works for nasa" crap because anybody who knows anything about claymores will tell you that just from your statement above we can tell that its bullshyte!!
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Tuck-Duck&Roll
Tuck-Duck&Roll
8. RE: Explosives: Very Last Resort
Apr 30 2008, 9:17 AM EDT | Post edited: Apr 30 2008, 9:17 AM EDT
"I agree, but since my survival plan relies more on keeping mobile, I wouldn't hesitate to toss a claymore out of the back of the supply truck to stop the horde from following since I'll be long gone gone before any more of the undead show up. "
Exactly, how does one "Toss" a claymore?

I've seen them used in ways that they were never intended, but I've never seen one tossed.
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StrykerPez
StrykerPez
9. RE: Explosives: Very Last Resort
Apr 30 2008, 3:12 PM EDT | Post edited: Apr 30 2008, 3:12 PM EDT
I'm sorry, I used the word "toss" innappropriately. Let me rephrase my previous statement as "I wouldn't hesitate to place a claymore on the road behind the supply truck as we drove off, with it angled slightly upward so that the center of its approximately 6 foot high blast pattern would definitely hit the zombies in the head, while the 150 foot spread and 150 foot effective range would certainly take out quite a large horde. I would then arm the M18A1 with a time delay fuse so that I could be long gone before the explosion and noise attracted more zombies."

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alicestar
alicestar
10. RE: Explosives: Very Last Resort
Apr 30 2008, 3:25 PM EDT | Post edited: Apr 30 2008, 3:25 PM EDT
"I'm sorry, I used the word "toss" innappropriately. Let me rephrase my previous statement as "I wouldn't hesitate to place a claymore on the road behind the supply truck as we drove off, with it angled slightly upward so that the center of its approximately 6 foot high blast pattern would definitely hit the zombies in the head, while the 150 foot spread and 150 foot effective range would certainly take out quite a large horde. I would then arm the M18A1 with a time delay fuse so that I could be long gone before the explosion and noise attracted more zombies."

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wow...a man that uses effective words, no nasa bull or anything but the problem is you can look all that up on the net. just PM me stryker ill talk to you like that
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DaveBall
11. RE: Explosives: Very Last Resort
May 23 2008, 9:21 AM EDT | Post edited: May 23 2008, 9:21 AM EDT
Information from the Web is OK, but if you don't have any experience with explosives don't mess with them. Theres a good reason alot of home made bomb makers are missing fingers and hands. Even with military explosives if you don't know how to use them just leave them be. That includes grenades. I know you seen them in the movies and it looks like any one can use one, thats wrong. You need to know how big the blast will be, how much and far the shrapnel will fly. LEAVE THEM TO THOSE OF US WHO CAN USE THEM PROPERLY !!!!!!! I would love to get a hold of some claymores to use for my perimeter. Do you find this valuable?    
Haloeclipse
Haloeclipse
12. RE: Explosives: Very Last Resort
May 23 2008, 1:59 PM EDT | Post edited: May 23 2008, 1:59 PM EDT
If I could get my hands on some claymores, that would be great, nothin fancy, i would just use the clacker that comes with it, and daisy chain them. I would either use them as a last ditch defense, or as a starter to any ambush I might plan on some living opponents. Do you find this valuable?    
SuperSoldierRCP
SuperSoldierRCP
13. RE: Explosives: Very Last Resort
May 23 2008, 2:36 PM EDT | Post edited: May 23 2008, 2:36 PM EDT
"as good of an idea as that sounds stryker im gunna bet that you dont even know how a claymore works, or how to make any effective explosive in general. I know your gunna come back with "im an ex navy seal" or "my uncle bob works for nasa" crap because anybody who knows anything about claymores will tell you that just from your statement above we can tell that its bullshyte!! "
Alicestars a genienous YOU ALL BEST PAY ATTENTION
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HossDelgado
14. RE: Explosives: Very Last Resort
May 23 2008, 3:19 PM EDT | Post edited: May 23 2008, 3:19 PM EDT
"I agree, but since my survival plan relies more on keeping mobile, I wouldn't hesitate to toss a claymore out of the back of the supply truck to stop the horde from following since I'll be long gone gone before any more of the undead show up. "
Huh???
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HossDelgado
15. RE: Explosives: Very Last Resort
May 23 2008, 3:24 PM EDT | Post edited: May 23 2008, 3:24 PM EDT
"I'm sorry, I used the word "toss" innappropriately. Let me rephrase my previous statement as "I wouldn't hesitate to place a claymore on the road behind the supply truck as we drove off, with it angled slightly upward so that the center of its approximately 6 foot high blast pattern would definitely hit the zombies in the head, while the 150 foot spread and 150 foot effective range would certainly take out quite a large horde. I would then arm the M18A1 with a time delay fuse so that I could be long gone before the explosion and noise attracted more zombies."

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that was some nice backtracking - it's amazing what you can look up on wikipedia these days isn't it?
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alicestar
alicestar
16. RE: Explosives: Very Last Resort
May 27 2008, 4:29 AM EDT | Post edited: May 27 2008, 4:29 AM EDT
"that was some nice backtracking - it's amazing what you can look up on wikipedia these days isn't it?"
I had an E-5 in iraq trying to convince me that the safety zone for a claymore is 15 feet and not 50ft so I let him do his thing. the blast put him through a m1097 softy but the passenger seat caught his feet. at least he made it home early!!
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iamMetaluna
17. RE: Explosives: Very Last Resort
May 27 2008, 10:48 PM EDT | Post edited: May 27 2008, 10:48 PM EDT
"I had an E-5 in iraq trying to convince me that the safety zone for a claymore is 15 feet and not 50ft so I let him do his thing. the blast put him through a m1097 softy but the passenger seat caught his feet. at least he made it home early!!"
On History channel there's a show called "Mail Call." For those you haven't seen it, it's a show that covers the ins and outs of military hardware and vehicles throughout the centuries hosted by R. Lee Ermy (Drill instructor of "Full Metal Jacket" fame). They had a thing about Claymores and said the kill zone can be up to 100 yards. Was that exaggeration?
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Tuck-Duck&Roll
Tuck-Duck&Roll
18. RE: Explosives: Very Last Resort
May 27 2008, 11:40 PM EDT | Post edited: May 27 2008, 11:40 PM EDT
"On History channel there's a show called "Mail Call." For those you haven't seen it, it's a show that covers the ins and outs of military hardware and vehicles throughout the centuries hosted by R. Lee Ermy (Drill instructor of "Full Metal Jacket" fame). They had a thing about Claymores and said the kill zone can be up to 100 yards. Was that exaggeration?"
100 yards is at the EXTREME range of the claymore, its effective range is less than half that.
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ScottishZombieFodder
ScottishZombieFodder
19. RE: Explosives: Very Last Resort
May 28 2008, 9:29 AM EDT | Post edited: May 28 2008, 9:29 AM EDT
Explosives arent really readily availible here, i did however get my hands on the anarchists cookbook before it was banned from shops etc, which tells you how to construct pipebombs, four winds shotgun traps and a bunch of other stuff, i still wouldnt use them unless i had to though.The only way i can se explosives being useful is slowing down an advancing horde when escaping an area. Do you find this valuable?    
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