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ReverantFaun
ReverantFaun
The Square Formation
Jul 16 2008, 1:55 AM EDT | Post edited: Jul 16 2008, 1:55 AM EDT
from my prior knowledge when Max Brooks used the "Square Formation" it was a group of Army personnel who were Shoulder-to-Shoulder attacking whatever zombies are in their L.O.S not 4 team members so if you ave a large enough group to be able to do this in shifts then as long as you don't run out of supplies, tire out, or miss head shots then your group could survive indefintley 5  out of 5 found this valuable. Do you?    
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Andering_J_REDDSON
Andering_J_REDDSON
1. RE: The Square Formation
Jul 16 2008, 3:04 AM EDT | Post edited: Jul 16 2008, 3:04 AM EDT
"from my prior knowledge when Max Brooks used the "Square Formation" it was a group of Army personnel who were Shoulder-to-Shoulder attacking whatever zombies are in their L.O.S not 4 team members so if you ave a large enough group to be able to do this in shifts then as long as you don't run out of supplies, tire out, or miss head shots then your group could survive indefintley"
Next thing your gonna say is "They ogt me surrounded, now I got them were I can kill htme" right?
Here's a hint- You ain't Chesty. And a freebie while I'm at it: Teh Box formations is ancient history, and Max BROOKES is a comediane, not a disaster specialisit. Do you find this valuable?    

BIA!
2. RE: The Square Formation
Jul 16 2008, 3:08 AM EDT | Post edited: Jul 16 2008, 3:08 AM EDT
Yeah, if when Z-Day comes, you take Max Brookes word as law, stay away from me and my group. Reddson is right, Maxie is a comedian. While is book may have brought a some good ideas, it was meant to be a joke and if anyone takes anything he says in there as more than MAYBE good ways to die easily, your not going to make it far in post Z-Day. Do you find this valuable?    
spraymachine
spraymachine
3. RE: The Square Formation
Jul 16 2008, 4:48 AM EDT | Post edited: Jul 16 2008, 4:48 AM EDT
This would work using full body square shields and long pikes, but luckily we passed the bronze age a while ago.

Nice suggestion from the guide that will bring the average person to a level of decent zombie awareness. You can't bash everything in it, but somethings are just impractical.

I think it is better to post something and be bashed rather than not post anythign at all. That way you can learn why things don't work, so you can create things that will work. Just a little message to get anyone who might be discouraged by these responces to post. Do you find this valuable?    

BIA!
4. RE: The Square Formation
Jul 16 2008, 5:19 AM EDT | Post edited: Jul 16 2008, 5:19 AM EDT
"This would work using full body square shields and long pikes, but luckily we passed the bronze age a while ago.

Nice suggestion from the guide that will bring the average person to a level of decent zombie awareness. You can't bash everything in it, but somethings are just impractical.

I think it is better to post something and be bashed rather than not post anythign at all. That way you can learn why things don't work, so you can create things that will work. Just a little message to get anyone who might be discouraged by these responces to post."
Haha. Yeah, Spray, you have a point. I guess I should consider what I say, because I'd hate for the next great thinker to be discouraged by a simple, albeit bad, critique.
(Reddson, I meant my comment, not yours :D) Do you find this valuable?    
alicestar
alicestar
5. RE: The Square Formation
Jul 16 2008, 6:21 AM EDT | Post edited: Jul 16 2008, 6:21 AM EDT
well, lets look at your square formation.
how do they move? they cant
where are there supplies coming from? no supply
whos on standby to fill in the position of wounded? no support
where is the exit strategy? none, surrounded.


wow guys, great defense keep up the good work!! Do you find this valuable?    
Andering_J_REDDSON
Andering_J_REDDSON
6. RE: The Square Formation
Jul 16 2008, 2:34 PM EDT | Post edited: Jul 16 2008, 2:34 PM EDT
"I think it is better to post something and be bashed rather than not post anythign at all. That way you can learn why things don't work, so you can create things that will work."
That is too true. Do you find this valuable?    
Auto2579
Auto2579
7. RE: The Square Formation
Jul 16 2008, 4:37 PM EDT | Post edited: Jul 16 2008, 4:37 PM EDT
Wedge beats square. Wedge allows movement in any direction, and supply to come up from behind. Further, it allows easier Command and Control of the unit.

A box formation (Phalanx) worked great for the Greeks and Romans, but back then, ammo resupply consisted of spears. Bullets don't last forever, and you have to ensure that the team is not all blasting through magazines at the same time. One thing that would cause a lot of deaths would be too many people reloading at the same time. It takes a person without training about 10-15 seconds to drop mag, get out a new one, and reload. Add stress to that, and you can tack on another ten seconds for clumsy hands and overall tweaking.
So you need to get your teams on track with eachother, so that they can learn how to mask their fires for the most effective cover.
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ReverantFaun
ReverantFaun
8. RE: The Square Formation
Jul 17 2008, 8:23 PM EDT | Post edited: Jul 17 2008, 8:23 PM EDT
I'm not saying the square formation is the best just correcting a flaw in the description Do you find this valuable?    
ReverantFaun
ReverantFaun
9. RE: The Square Formation
Jul 17 2008, 8:25 PM EDT | Post edited: Jul 17 2008, 8:25 PM EDT
Also the square formation is only a last ditch effort and is completly defensive not offensive Do you find this valuable?    
Andering_J_REDDSON
Andering_J_REDDSON
10. RE: The Square Formation
Jul 18 2008, 5:18 PM EDT | Post edited: Jul 18 2008, 5:18 PM EDT
"Also the square formation is only a last ditch effort and is completly defensive not offensive"
Alright, that's diffrent.
But if you're in a position where a square is useful to you, you're in a position that those new vest I added to Professional Gear page are now useful to you. Do you find this valuable?    
ReverantFaun
ReverantFaun
11. RE: The Square Formation
Jul 21 2008, 10:48 PM EDT | Post edited: Jul 21 2008, 10:48 PM EDT
BTW those vests lok useful i would love for someone to make a page on how to make them Do you find this valuable?    
Andering_J_REDDSON
Andering_J_REDDSON
12. RE: The Square Formation
Jul 21 2008, 11:20 PM EDT | Post edited: Jul 21 2008, 11:20 PM EDT
"BTW those vests lok useful i would love for someone to make a page on how to make them"
Hamas. They make the damned things like candy.
Of course, they rig them up with Gameboys for detonators, not exactly ideal for skin job killing, but you get the idea. Do you find this valuable?    
crowleyj
crowleyj
13. RE: The Square Formation
Aug 24 2008, 12:52 AM EDT | Post edited: Aug 24 2008, 12:52 AM EDT
I know you all call it the square formation, but when I look at it I see the diamond formation. Mobile an mainly used as the tail end charlie of a squad. An as for the limited vision thing the old saying " rest your head, rest in peace" comes to mind. Yes I understand tunnel vision will happen. but training helps prevent that. You would not want to do that at ft. shermans old jotc courses. Stop scanning on one of those trails an you might end up with a rock tied to a stick in your groin. You would have anyway but one less is a bonus. 1  out of 1 found this valuable. Do you?    
dominickmagas
dominickmagas
14. RE: The Square Formation
Aug 24 2008, 2:22 AM EDT | Post edited: Aug 24 2008, 2:22 AM EDT
If you had a lot, and i mean a LOT of ammo in the middle and people refilling and taking places and watches and shifts, it might work. but getting yourself closed in is ALWAYS a bad idea. Do you find this valuable?