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Realpra	New guide and member - worst scenario discussion? Dec 8 2009, 12:22 AM EST Hey Im new, my forum name is Realpra (other forums aswell). I have been reading stuff on this forum for a few days for sh*ts and giggles and decided to post my own survival guide to blow off steam: http://www.zombiesurvivalwiki.com/page/Realpra%27s+survival+guide Its short but potent - I hope! Getting sick of zombie movies with people messing up royally ALL the time :) What do you think of my scenario type? (its in the guide but in short: bio weaponized virus+zombie virus + enemy state attacking+all the world collapsing afterwards) Funny how nobody seems to include police in their calculations here - I mean some of the plans here would get you arrested = zombie buffet ;P Post reply Do you find this valuable? Keyword tags: None
PedroAsani	1. RE: New guide and member - worst scenario discussion? Dec 8 2009, 1:03 AM EST \| Post edited: Dec 8 2009, 1:03 AM EST First, hi. Second, your plan seems to suffer from the main failing of new plans. Don't feel bad, almost everyone does it. Your first action is taken when the threat of zombies arises. That is waaaaay too late. Preparing for disaster is not something you can cram for. This is not your 7th grade english test. Stocking up on everything you need takes time and money. The less money you have, the more time you need to prepare. Start now. When you say nobody includes police in their calculations: who, which calculations, and what impact do you think they will have, and why? Post reply Do you find this valuable?
Realpra	2. RE: New guide and member - worst scenario discussion? Dec 8 2009, 8:20 AM EST \| Post edited: Dec 8 2009, 8:20 AM EST Well I have seen plenty of plans on this site that want to drive around, build castles and all sorts of things (after the outbreak) - my plan has a response time of 1 hour or so. Theres not much you can do faster than my plan unless you want to permanently live in a safe place. You could have the backpack ready, you could have bought a desolated hut or a boat, but really it wouldnt take much less time to get to safety with these things. Police is important since if you act before everybody else (you being a "paranoid" zombie freak this is likely) it puts limits on the stairs you can blow up, stuff you can steal and so on before getting jailed. In my plan its mainly a problem if you have to kidnap groupmembers before they realize its necessary and when you steal the boat/supplies. Risk should be acceptable though since you're on the move in my plan. What would you have done beforehand? Post reply Do you find this valuable?
SGTGerman	3. RE: New guide and member - worst scenario discussion? Dec 8 2009, 8:33 AM EST \| Post edited: Dec 8 2009, 8:33 AM EST Hey up. Okay I need you to go over the kidnapping phase and dude one couple will not be enough to repopulate unless you want become incest. Post reply Do you find this valuable?
Realpra	4. RE: New guide and member - worst scenario discussion? Dec 8 2009, 8:51 AM EST \| Post edited: Dec 8 2009, 8:51 AM EST Thats just worst case, chances are there will be someone who is as freaked out as you and you can simply say you have a way out. Incest is a major problem (not lethal though) but there really isnt much you can do about it - you dont have long from the first bio-warhead/zombie spotted to your city being hit. I have never kidnapped anyone and very very likely NEVER will but throwing them in a car should do it, if they are small you might be able to carry them but it would get you arrested fast. Post reply Do you find this valuable?
SGTGerman	5. RE: New guide and member - worst scenario discussion? Dec 8 2009, 8:53 AM EST \| Post edited: Dec 8 2009, 8:53 AM EST "Thats just worst case, chances are there will be someone who is as freaked out as you and you can simply say you have a way out. Incest is a major problem (not lethal though) but there really isnt much you can do about it - you dont have long from the first bio-warhead/zombie spotted to your city being hit. I have never kidnapped anyone and very very likely NEVER will but throwing them in a car should do it, if they are small you might be able to carry them but it would get you arrested fast." I'd never resort to rape or kidnapping it goes against my morals. But why not just get a small group together? That way you aren't going to be incest in the next ten years. Post reply Do you find this valuable?
Realpra	6. RE: New guide and member - worst scenario discussion? Dec 8 2009, 9:05 AM EST \| Post edited: Dec 8 2009, 9:05 AM EST My morals work in a more logical fashion, but I assure you that I have a very strict moral code. If you have the time I agree on getting a group just remember that things take time. Getting 2+ people to join you could easily take 15 mins. of squabble. The advantages are clear; more gear, more food can be carried and you have more to fight with rebuild etc.. Hooking up with people you know could take hours unless you live together - if you have time I suggest trying to recruit smart people it will save you loads of trouble later. Post reply Do you find this valuable?
SGTGerman	7. RE: New guide and member - worst scenario discussion? Dec 8 2009, 9:16 AM EST \| Post edited: Dec 8 2009, 9:33 AM EST "My morals work in a more logical fashion, but I assure you that I have a very strict moral code. If you have the time I agree on getting a group just remember that things take time. Getting 2+ people to join you could easily take 15 mins. of squabble. The advantages are clear; more gear, more food can be carried and you have more to fight with rebuild etc.. Hooking up with people you know could take hours unless you live together - if you have time I suggest trying to recruit smart people it will save you loads of trouble later." Regardless, although its logical I still wouldn't do it - its not logical to join the army to risk getting your legs blown off, only to come home to "British" people who spit and despise you. It could take while but thats why you have a BOL (Bug Out Location) when the SHTF. Post reply Do you find this valuable?
Iamz0rs	8. RE: New guide and member - worst scenario discussion? Dec 8 2009, 9:37 AM EST \| Post edited: Dec 8 2009, 9:37 AM EST "Hey up. Okay I need you to go over the kidnapping phase and dude one couple will not be enough to repopulate unless you want become incest." Sure you can, acording to about 80% of the population it has happened quite alot of times! Post reply Do you find this valuable?
SGTGerman	9. RE: New guide and member - worst scenario discussion? Dec 8 2009, 9:39 AM EST \| Post edited: Dec 8 2009, 9:39 AM EST "Sure you can, acording to about 80% of the population it has happened quite alot of times!" Not sure I follow you? Sarcasm? Post reply Do you find this valuable?
agentaaa	10. RE: New guide and member - worst scenario discussion? Dec 8 2009, 9:45 AM EST \| Post edited: Dec 8 2009, 9:45 AM EST "My morals work in a more logical fashion, but I assure you that I have a very strict moral code. If you have the time I agree on getting a group just remember that things take time. Getting 2+ people to join you could easily take 15 mins. of squabble. The advantages are clear; more gear, more food can be carried and you have more to fight with rebuild etc.. Hooking up with people you know could take hours unless you live together - if you have time I suggest trying to recruit smart people it will save you loads of trouble later." Ya, see, that's why you get the other members of your group PREPARED to go to a checkpoint, or if the checkpoint is unfeasible, the main base location. Like Pedro said, be prepared, get a group that will listen to you first, and get them prepared to move to the checkpoint. Anyway, kidnapping a girl/guy for sex is just plain wrong. Besides the fact that you don't really need to have children that way, if she/he is still unwilling, he/she poses a huge threat to the group. Also, married and/or dating people do not need to do this. Post reply Do you find this valuable?
SGTGerman	11. RE: New guide and member - worst scenario discussion? Dec 8 2009, 9:50 AM EST \| Post edited: Dec 8 2009, 9:50 AM EST "My morals work in a more logical fashion, but I assure you that I have a very strict moral code. If you have the time I agree on getting a group just remember that things take time. Getting 2+ people to join you could easily take 15 mins. of squabble. The advantages are clear; more gear, more food can be carried and you have more to fight with rebuild etc.. Hooking up with people you know could take hours unless you live together - if you have time I suggest trying to recruit smart people it will save you loads of trouble later." I suppose what we're trying to put across mate is that - 1. Just because the law has broken down you should not act like an ass hat or immoral. 2. Orangise BEFORE they rise - have a group ready and you will be suprised how things will flow faster and easier. We can't tell you how to live your life post zed day but we can at least advise. There isn't a perfect way and your conscience will be stretched to the limit. Post reply Do you find this valuable?
Realpra	12. RE: New guide and member - worst scenario discussion? Dec 8 2009, 10:02 AM EST \| Post edited: Dec 8 2009, 10:04 AM EST "Ya, see, that's why you get the other members of your group PREPARED to go to a checkpoint, or if the checkpoint is unfeasible, the main base location. Like Pedro said, be prepared, get a group that will listen to you first, and get them prepared to move to the checkpoint. Anyway, kidnapping a girl/guy for sex is just plain wrong. Besides the fact that you don't really need to have children that way, if she/he is still unwilling, he/she poses a huge threat to the group. Also, married and/or dating people do not need to do this." Even if they are prepared you may have to wait hours for everyone to join you at the checkpoint, how long time do you hang around to get eaten if they never show? Not to forget the fact that most people dont have friends that care about zombies. Well I dont. Kidnapping a person was NOT for sex and theres a large amount of singles in the world if you omit this in your plan it will only apply to yourself and then why post it? While your grouping delays you further and further I and about two others will be far out at sea or in the wilderness. And fighting for your beliefs is never illogical SGT, no matter how much you get spat on later. Dont tell me your morals are better than mine. Post reply Do you find this valuable?
SGTGerman	13. RE: New guide and member - worst scenario discussion? Dec 8 2009, 10:16 AM EST "Even if they are prepared you may have to wait hours for everyone to join you at the checkpoint, how long time do you hang around to get eaten if they never show? Not to forget the fact that most people dont have friends that care about zombies. Well I dont. Kidnapping a person was NOT for sex and theres a large amount of singles in the world if you omit this in your plan it will only apply to yourself and then why post it? While your grouping delays you further and further I and about two others will be far out at sea or in the wilderness. And fighting for your beliefs is never illogical SGT, no matter how much you get spat on later. Dont tell me your morals are better than mine." I don't have firends who care either but what you do you meet somewhere close to every1 if you get my drift - an equal distance as possible but also somewhere discreet. Or simply have more than R.V point. Use your mobiles or anything and ring up "**** Dave this has happens so I can't get there so I will go the R.V2 instead." This is where you get your map out and say "Okay then we'll meet here call in every so many minutes. Out." And as for my morals well I don't really want to drag that argument out but you were insisting on kidnapping for whatever reason. Post reply Do you find this valuable?
Realpra	14. RE: New guide and member - worst scenario discussion? Dec 8 2009, 10:32 AM EST What if cellphones dont work due to EMP or power failure? Even if they do you assume that people agree on what must be done 100%, are prepared, not too far away, dont get stuck and are quick about getting going. Thats a LOT of ifs! Maybe in a few days Ill update my guide with the preparations I would make if I decided to prepare - ultimate hideout/treehouse, non-rape/incest strategies and everything. My morals include kidnapping and raping people if it saves the human race, but sure "whatever reason". Morals are probably enough for another thread anyway. Post reply Do you find this valuable?
SGTGerman	15. RE: New guide and member - worst scenario discussion? Dec 8 2009, 10:36 AM EST "What if cellphones dont work due to EMP or power failure? Even if they do you assume that people agree on what must be done 100%, are prepared, not too far away, dont get stuck and are quick about getting going. Thats a LOT of ifs! Maybe in a few days Ill update my guide with the preparations I would make if I decided to prepare - ultimate hideout/treehouse, non-rape/incest strategies and everything. My morals include kidnapping and raping people if it saves the human race, but sure "whatever reason". Morals are probably enough for another thread anyway." Sorry but how the **** can raping people be the answer? Start the thread but you'll only get neget responces. A large amount of guys on here are ex or serving soldiers. Thats not the reason though so I want try and bog you down in morals but remember the power might not go straight away and the media will follow the stories very closely. Don't wait up to the point you see one stratching at the window as soon as the danger is there launch your plan. If your gang don't see the need head straight to your BOL anyway by vehicle if possible since the roads aren't jammed that bad and makesure its ready. Post reply Do you find this valuable?
agentaaa	16. RE: New guide and member - worst scenario discussion? Dec 8 2009, 10:51 AM EST "Even if they are prepared you may have to wait hours for everyone to join you at the checkpoint, how long time do you hang around to get eaten if they never show? Not to forget the fact that most people dont have friends that care about zombies. Well I dont. Kidnapping a person was NOT for sex and theres a large amount of singles in the world if you omit this in your plan it will only apply to yourself and then why post it? While your grouping delays you further and further I and about two others will be far out at sea or in the wilderness. And fighting for your beliefs is never illogical SGT, no matter how much you get spat on later. Dont tell me your morals are better than mine." I DO, actually, and the checkpoint has a 30-min waiting time. Afterward, they will meet me at my planned base location, and if they don't, I will assume they are dead. I plan for 14 people min. out of the 60 I actually want. As far as why I posted my plan, it is for what I would do, not what everyone should do. It is more a "read this, and gain ideas from it" thing. Also, this way people may give me suggestions about my plan and tell me what's wrong/right with it. It is my plan, not a plan for everyone. In any case, how will you survive in the wilderness/sea. Post reply Do you find this valuable?
agentaaa	17. RE: New guide and member - worst scenario discussion? Dec 8 2009, 11:02 AM EST "What if cellphones dont work due to EMP or power failure? Even if they do you assume that people agree on what must be done 100%, are prepared, not too far away, dont get stuck and are quick about getting going. Thats a LOT of ifs! Maybe in a few days Ill update my guide with the preparations I would make if I decided to prepare - ultimate hideout/treehouse, non-rape/incest strategies and everything. My morals include kidnapping and raping people if it saves the human race, but sure "whatever reason". Morals are probably enough for another thread anyway." Lets see, normally EMPs are only caused by nuclear weaponry-level explosions, so you will be dead long before you need worry about that. People won't agree on what must be done, but we will use a voting system. As far as kidnpping and raping people, that not only doesn't save the human race, but you cannot pretend you are doing something noble. You will not be the only group alive and many more than one group will procreate, so all you are doing is assuring you have children That is not something noble, it is just you not wanting to die without an heir, so don't pretend the action is some noble thing to save the human race. Post reply Do you find this valuable?
Realpra	18. RE: New guide and member - worst scenario discussion? Dec 8 2009, 11:09 AM EST "Sorry but how the **** can raping people be the answer? Start the thread but you'll only get neget responces. A large amount of guys on here are ex or serving soldiers. Thats not the reason though so I want try and bog you down in morals but remember the power might not go straight away and the media will follow the stories very closely. Don't wait up to the point you see one stratching at the window as soon as the danger is there launch your plan. If your gang don't see the need head straight to your BOL anyway by vehicle if possible since the roads aren't jammed that bad and makesure its ready. " Soldiers eh? So killing tons of people in the name of "whatever" is far more okay than ensuring the survival of humankind via rape? Rape is the solution if you have an unwilling girl and she is the LAST girl on earth. Heck would insemination, sparing the sexual violation part, keep you from getting your panties in a twist? I didnt intend to wait til they were at the door, but I wont make a plan that assumes I have hours or days to act in. Even if you have a bag/everything ready you could be at work/outa hometown, so knowing where to head and what common supplies to grab seems like the best way to be prepared to me. Chances are that from the time I would be well safe it will be several days until tshtf - if I over a still working radio/cellphone network hear that its not as bad as I thought I can always take extra time, call people and get that fishing rod. What is your worst scenario anyway? Post reply Do you find this valuable?
Realpra	19. RE: New guide and member - worst scenario discussion? Dec 8 2009, 11:28 AM EST "As far as kidnpping and raping people, that not only doesn't save the human race, but you cannot pretend you are doing something noble. You will not be the only group alive and many more than one group will procreate, so all you are doing is assuring you have children That is not something noble, it is just you not wanting to die without an heir, so don't pretend the action is some noble thing to save the human race. " I dont work like that - If I had a loving wife with me and joined up with other survivors I would make sure she had kids with everyone, not just me, to avoid incest problems. I may be a cold sociopath but Im not selfish. If I had been infected I would kill myself. As for surviving at sea I would with the supplies I chose alone last about 2 months if rainwater could be collected or similar (which is not a problem in my climate). In those 2 months I could learn to hunt properly if at land or sail to a more secure location if at sea + fish. Surviving afterwards is a question of your own local knowledge, common sense and I believe there are guides/field manuals from the military on how to do it posted on this very site. Post reply Do you find this valuable?

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