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timberrattler |
Comfortably numb....
Dec 8 2009, 9:44 PM EST
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Post-Z would be a nightmare. One thing many will look to to ease the pain and anxiety will be drugs and alcohol.Will you partake in controled substances and perscription drugs or do you believe their use would be too risky and dangerous in a post apocolyptic world? There would be no such thing as illegal drugs. You could grow marijuana in your back yard if you wanted to and cook meth on your front porch. Presciption drugs wouldn't have to be prescribed you could take whatever you found. It wouldn't matter if you were 21 or not. If you could get your hands on it, you could drink it. I'm looking for people's thoughts on this subject and I am not looking to judge. Would drugs and booze be a curse or a blessing? 4 out of 4 found this valuable. Do you?
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PedroAsani |
1. RE: Comfortably numb....
Dec 8 2009, 9:54 PM EST
I'm including a distillery in my plan, although it is mainly there for medical purposes and vingear for preserving food.Something tells me that some of the alcohol might just end up as an evening aperitif though. :) Do you find this valuable? |
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MickeyTatem |
2. RE: Comfortably numb....
Dec 8 2009, 9:55 PM EST
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"I'm looking for people's thoughts on this subject and I am not looking to judge. Would drugs and booze be a curse or a blessing?"i think they could be both. it really depends on the situation. if you are in a group that has watch shifts and u have time to toke a little bit there's nothing wrong with that, but u NEVER know when something bad might happen, so being stoned off of your ass isn't a good idea. as far as meth goes though... that **** is scary. i would stay away from it especially in a post apocalyptic world. Do you find this valuable? |
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inu-dude25 |
3. RE: Comfortably numb....
Dec 8 2009, 9:59 PM EST
Well, after getting my molars out (all four at once) I got a full script for Oxycodone. I took two or three of them in the day or two after the surgery and when my dad suggested I should stop taking them, for a split second I had a voice in my head saying no.That surprised me. I never thought that stuff could become habitual so quickly. It did work though. Five minutes after taking one I didn't know I was ever in pain to begin with. In moderation, I'd drink and possibly smoke weed if it was straight from a plant. Though I've always heard marijuana limits your learning potential, so that would have to wait if I would ever use it. Do you find this valuable? |
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SevenExxes |
4. RE: Comfortably numb....
Dec 8 2009, 10:01 PM EST
I'm a stoner so I will be making plans as to how I would set up a growing operation post Z-Day.But if Z-Day hit tomorrow I'd be screwed. I don't have any seeds! Do you find this valuable? |
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timberrattler |
5. RE: Comfortably numb....
Dec 8 2009, 10:22 PM EST
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The freedom you'd get from the total anarchy that would come from an apocolypse is almost shocking when you think about it. For those of us who walk the straight and narrow because of laws, religion or simply because the company you work for does drug tests this would be a pandoria's box. If the tranquilizers you found in an abandoned house calmed your anxiety it would be a blessing. When you ran out and traded half your ammo for more so you could have one more taste of the relaxation it brought you it would be a curse. This particular "Adam" will skip the apple but I might take a sip or two of whiskey and since nobody is going to ask me to pee in a cup, after a hard days work I might take a toke or two. Other than that not much will change for me. Do you find this valuable? |
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Freelancer47 |
6. RE: Stone Cold (Sober) Crazy...
Dec 8 2009, 10:26 PM EST
Not me. I'm going stone cold sober if the Zed Poc happens. There was alcohol available in Iraq when I was there for 2 tours. It wasn't allowed per General Order #1A, but folks took measures to procure them anyway.Huffing was popular. There was a Full Bird Colonel (0-6), that died from that crap. Pill Popping was another popular activity for some. Despite my love of good beer & the hooch... I never had a drop. Being in a warzone & doped up on something didn't sound appealing to me. For Medicinal things... absolutly. You might need Vicodine for the pain, and a little Mary Jane might be needed if you just CAN'T wind down. All in all, I don't see myself using anything but Coffee after the Zed Poc on a regular basis. 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
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DEVILDOGMP |
7. RE: Stone Cold (Sober) Crazy...
Dec 8 2009, 10:31 PM EST
"Not me. I'm going stone cold sober if the Zed Poc happens. There was alcohol available in Iraq when I was there for 2 tours. It wasn't allowed per General Order #1A, but folks took measures to procure them anyway.I would agree up to a certain point freelancer. I think that alchohol and marry jane could influence your judgement and leave one unprepared should a suprise attack come, but if in dire need, i would take some epinephrine, get my addreneline pumpin, and use fight or flight. maybe some vics or some oxys to cool me down after, i was on vicodine when i tore a muscle in my leg and i gotta say it really hepled so that would be useful medicine as well. Do you find this valuable? |
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Freelancer47 |
8. RE: Stone Cold (Sober) Crazy...
Dec 8 2009, 10:34 PM EST
"I would agree up to a certain point freelancer. I think that alchohol and marry jane could influence your judgement and leave one unprepared should a suprise attack come, but if in dire need, i would take some epinephrine, get my addreneline pumpin, and use fight or flight. maybe some vics or some oxys to cool me down after, i was on vicodine when i tore a muscle in my leg and i gotta say it really hepled so that would be useful medicine as well."Oh... nononono.... I fully agree. I'm just saying that I wouldn't use the ZedPoc as an excuse to try all the drugs that I haven't tried yet! Totally agree! I'm of the belief that if you need something like Epinephrine to get you going due to being up for 3 days/being really-really sick/etc... do it! Just don't drop 25mg of Oxycodine for the reason of "Huh... I wonder what this does..." 2 out of 2 found this valuable. Do you? |
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timberrattler |
9. RE: Stone Cold (Sober) Crazy...
Dec 8 2009, 10:44 PM EST
"LMFAO. Darwin's therory will take care of the "Huh...I wonder what this does....." folks the same way it will take care of the "Hey Billy Bob watch this........" folks. The zombies will take care of them like a lion taking care of the slow bison who wanders away from the herd. 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
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PedroAsani |
10. RE: Stone Cold (Sober) Crazy...
Dec 8 2009, 10:44 PM EST
"I would agree up to a certain point freelancer. I think that alchohol and marry jane could influence your judgement and leave one unprepared should a suprise attack come, but if in dire need, i would take some epinephrine, get my addreneline pumpin, and use fight or flight. maybe some vics or some oxys to cool me down after, i was on vicodine when i tore a muscle in my leg and i gotta say it really hepled so that would be useful medicine as well."Mixing your uppers and downers like that is not a good idea. Use one or the other, but don't bounce your mood like that. As for being unprepared for a suprise attack, if you are in a group you would have a guard duty rotation, right? So provided you just have a few drinks or tokes to calm yourself at the end of a long hard working day, a suprise attack wouldn't be the end of your life. The key is moderation. If you drink half your body weight in whiskey, then sure, that is a problem. But just a drop in your lemonade (homemade, naturally) after a day harvesting your crops will ease your aches and pains, and make it easier to sleep. Do you find this valuable? |
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Carnack |
11. RE: Comfortably numb....
Dec 9 2009, 12:29 AM EST
I wouldn't. I think that more often than notit would simply cause more problems than it solved.
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Carnack |
12. RE: Stone Cold (Sober) Crazy...
Dec 9 2009, 12:37 AM EST
"Not me. I'm going stone cold sober if the Zed Poc happens. There was alcohol available in Iraq when I was there for 2 tours. It wasn't allowed per General Order #1A, but folks took measures to procure them anyway.This would possibly be the furthest I'm willing to go. But I'd leave the MJ out. Seen a little too much harm come from it to make me take the use of it easily. Do you find this valuable? |
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StrykerPez |
13. RE: Stone Cold (Sober) Crazy...
Dec 9 2009, 1:25 AM EST
You know... I can smoke MJ whenever I want. (live in cali, buddy grows for a clinic, can get a prescription for insomnia) But I don't. Weed makes me lazy. Most of the time, my life requires that I don't be lazy. I don't see the point in getting high, and then ruining my high by trying to go to work, concentrate on school, etc. I will smoke every once in a while, but only while on vacation when I KNOW I get to relax. Not likely to happen in a zedpoc. I can drink whenever I want. I can walk down to the liquor store right now and buy some booze. But I don't. Again, I only drink when I know that I won't be interrupted and have to try to 'sober up' because my friends got too drunk or started a fight or tried to drive to Denny's. And I've tried other things too. Still, I just don't like the feelings I get from the various drugs. In a disaster situation, I need to be on top of my game. Sure a bowl of OG Kush would calm my nerves, but what happens to my reaction times? Sure a few shots of Jack would take my mind off of the horrors of the day, but what about my reasoning skills? Sure a toke of tweak would let me stay on watch for 3 days straight, but what about steady hands on a rifle? The only real benefit I can see regarding drugs post-zday is either medical, or infrequent recreational use. 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
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DEVILDOGMP |
14. RE: Stone Cold (Sober) Crazy...
Dec 9 2009, 2:40 AM EST
"Oh... nononono.... I fully agree. I'm just saying that I wouldn't use the ZedPoc as an excuse to try all the drugs that I haven't tried yet!Lol yes exactly, i totally read you loud and clear on that freelancer, i wouldnt do that either, no experimenting with me especially in a situation such as that lol. Do you find this valuable? |
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DEVILDOGMP |
15. RE: Stone Cold (Sober) Crazy...
Dec 9 2009, 2:44 AM EST
"Mixing your uppers and downers like that is not a good idea. Use one or the other, but don't bounce your mood like that.My plan revolves on a solo nomad basis, i dont want to pick up anybody if i absolutely dont have to, but if im hup for 3 or 4 days straight like freelancer said, having some epinephrine would help me alot, and once i found a good hide site, an oxy to help me sleep wouldnt be so bad. I actually had them mix downers for me at the hospital when i was a kid, they gave me morphine and percocete, is that bad? Jus wondering, i wouldnt wanna od. It would take a lot more than a drop to get a marine to bed after a hard days work trust me on that one pedro, but i do see your point for looking out for ones health so i do appreciate that. Do you find this valuable? |
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DevilNuts |
16. RE: Stone Cold (Sober) Crazy...
Dec 9 2009, 4:42 AM EST
If you can grow hops and cultivate brewing yeast, you can make beer.If you can make beer, you can afford to supply the local armed folks. If you can be especially valuable to the local armed folks.... Well then I'd say you've got nothing to worry about. Distilling liquor is a bit trickier than brewing beer, but if you focus your efforts on learning to do these things you can carve yourself a wealthy little niche in the world. I would love to learn how to make some whiskey, if only it were legal in the states. I am already experimenting with brewing my own beer. I have so far made 3 batches of beer, and 2 batches of cider. Next up is mead, and Yes... I HAVE had to mop my ceiling a time or two. Do you find this valuable? |
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Kam47 |
17. RE: Stone Cold (Sober) Crazy...
Dec 9 2009, 5:06 AM EST
i would definately be looking to find and horde as many prescription painkillers, and illegal drugs and alcohol i could find for trading, and maybe some to keep for myself. I believe they will be in high demand to help people cope, and for those who r just curious to try them now that there are no consequences.
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Freelancer47 |
18. RE: Stone Cold (Sober) Crazy...
Dec 9 2009, 5:16 AM EST
"If you can grow hops and cultivate brewing yeast, you can make beer.Nice... you and my friend Francis should make aquantances... He makes wine, good wine to boot... Do you find this valuable? |
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timberrattler |
19. RE: Stone Cold (Sober) Crazy...
Dec 9 2009, 6:44 AM EST
"You know...My job requires me to be on call half of the year and the other half (if I'm not on vacation) they still might call me in. I've pretty much been neutered as far as drinking and I'm cool with that. I got that out of my system when I was young and single. The only time I allow myself to cut loose is when I'm on vacation and I'm in no danger of being called in. As far as the other stuff goes if drugs show up in my urine during a random drug test I'm out the door. The company I work for has a zero tolerance policy and I worked too hard to get where I am now to throw it all away for a temperary fix. Thats why I think the war on drugs is so redundant. Legalize the damn stuff. I don't believe any more people would become junkies. Do it and take power away from gangs and drug lords. Alcohol is legal now and everyone isn't an alcoholic. Meth is a perfect example. A local law enforcement officer told me the reason meth took off in our area is that they were too hard on the pot growers. He said he'd rather deal with pot smokers than meth heads anyday. Do you find this valuable? |