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timberrattler	What would bring you to the raiding party? Jan 28 2010, 2:59 PM EST \| Post edited: Jan 28 2010, 3:05 PM EST You and your group have met another group that has set up camp not far from your position. You find their leader arrogant and obnoxious and the other members of his group treat you and yours like you don't exihist and when they do talk to you it is to make fun of your group for whatever reasons. Not in a good-hearted manner either, a hurtful one. You are not the only one who feels this way your entire group finds them to be horrible people. They aren't interested in trading with you and are not phsically violent towards you at all. This is my question to you. Would you ever consider raiding another group just because you didn't like them? Would you raid a group to help your own group survive if it was a group of ass_ holes? Post reply Do you find this valuable? Keyword tags: None
Maricely	1. RE: What would bring you to the raiding party? Jan 28 2010, 3:10 PM EST No, but not because I want to be nice, only because if they really are a**holes, they would probably resort to violence if they found out you stole from them. If talking smack is the worst that they do, I'd just pretend they don't exist. If they were raiders themselves, and small in number, and had an overabundance of supplies, I might do it. Post reply Do you find this valuable?
Frag-12	2. RE: What would bring you to the raiding party? Jan 28 2010, 3:17 PM EST Nope, I would drop and lose them in a heartbeat. They may not be violent towards you now, however that may change later. To me, there is no benefit in being with them. Post reply Do you find this valuable?
Bipp	3. RE: What would bring you to the raiding party? Jan 28 2010, 4:24 PM EST I would poison their water, and when they drop sick or dead. We would contain them, and pack up all of the supplies and leave them laying. If they do not see you as a threat it should be easy to get to their water supply. Or it might be possible to hide bombs around their compound in their sleeping areas. When they are asleep set off the bombs, and move in shooting any one who has a weapon. Those who don't die will be given the chance to join our group, or given a small amount of supplies, and sent walking. Post reply Do you find this valuable?
Edgarjust	4. RE: What would bring you to the raiding party? Jan 28 2010, 4:32 PM EST No, I wouldn't do it not because i didn't like them but because with all thats happening I wouldn't want that kind of karma. Plus that's just more stuff that i would have to carry, thus slowing my group down. Now if we were low on supplies that's a different story, we need to survive by any means necessary. Post reply Do you find this valuable?
DevilNuts	5. RE: What would bring you to the raiding party? Jan 28 2010, 5:00 PM EST "Those who don't die will be given the chance to join our group, or given a small amount of supplies, and sent walking. " So you'd kill whoever you could, but let the rest live? Seems kind of halfway to me... Post reply Do you find this valuable?
PedroAsani	6. RE: What would bring you to the raiding party? Jan 28 2010, 9:41 PM EST "You and your group have met another group that has set up camp not far from your position. You find their leader arrogant and obnoxious and the other members of his group treat you and yours like you don't exihist and when they do talk to you it is to make fun of your group for whatever reasons. Not in a good-hearted manner either, a hurtful one. You are not the only one who feels this way your entire group finds them to be horrible people. They aren't interested in trading with you and are not phsically violent towards you at all. This is my question to you. Would you ever consider raiding another group just because you didn't like them? Would you raid a group to help your own group survive if it was a group of ass_ holes? " Mean people making fun of me? Aww boo hoo. As long as they are leaving me and mine alone, fine. But if they try and break my quarantine, or make threats of violence, then they get shot. Oh, and if they have something that we NEED, for example medicine or equipment, and aren't willing to trade, then they get shot. The safety and survival of my group comes first. Post reply Do you find this valuable?
Frag-12	7. RE: What would bring you to the raiding party? Jan 28 2010, 9:44 PM EST "Mean people making fun of me? Aww boo hoo. As long as they are leaving me and mine alone, fine. But if they try and break my quarantine, or make threats of violence, then they get shot. Oh, and if they have something that we NEED, for example medicine or equipment, and aren't willing to trade, then they get shot. The safety and survival of my group comes first." Ditto Post reply Do you find this valuable?
inu-dude25	8. RE: What would bring you to the raiding party? Jan 28 2010, 9:49 PM EST "You and your group have met another group that has set up camp not far from your position. You find their leader arrogant and obnoxious and the other members of his group treat you and yours like you don't exihist and when they do talk to you it is to make fun of your group for whatever reasons. Not in a good-hearted manner either, a hurtful one. You are not the only one who feels this way your entire group finds them to be horrible people. They aren't interested in trading with you and are not phsically violent towards you at all. This is my question to you. Would you ever consider raiding another group just because you didn't like them? Would you raid a group to help your own group survive if it was a group of ass_ holes? " I doubt I would walk in and start an Inglorious Basterders-esque gun battle. However, if the oppurtunity presented itself (zombies overruning them somewhat), I'd consider offing them for their supplies and the insult. Post reply Do you find this valuable?
zachy_vengeance	9. RE: What would bring you to the raiding party? Jan 28 2010, 11:41 PM EST All depends on their numbers, and if they are violent to me and the rest of my party. A large group of people yelling insults for fun, nah. A large group of dangerous d-bags threatening to take from my family or even kill us, RUN. A small group of inbred high school dropouts threatening us or possibly attacking us, s**t will go down. Post reply Do you find this valuable?
kinelta	10. RE: What would bring you to the raiding party? Jan 29 2010, 12:27 AM EST No. I wouldn't raid. I would move away. I wouldn't want to be in close proximity to such people. Who knows what they might do in the future? Now, if I was at my final BOL, I would not be willing to move away, but I would not like to have such unpleasant neighbors. They'd have to be dealt with in some fashion, because, again, what might they do in the future? Bullies like to pick on people for fun, but what if their "fun" escalates into something that threatens my group's survival? How I would deal with them, I don't know. Yet. Maybe some kind of trade embargo? They might not trade with me and mine, but I could perhaps find a way to keep others from trading with them as well. Cut off their communications with other groups? Impair their ability to travel to gather their own supplies? Treat them like the rogue community they ar until they behave. hey don't have to like my group, but relations can at least be frostily polite. Post reply Do you find this valuable?
AlexHigginbotham	11. RE: What would bring you to the raiding party? Jan 29 2010, 2:59 AM EST You guys are so nice. I would hate to consider myself such a pushover. If I am being an ass_hole to someone and they go out of their way to be away from me, I lose respect for them. Show some spine and stand up for yourself, and if TSHTF, aim for the leader first. Troops are more likely to quit fighting when their officer is killed in front of them, and the same applies to an organized group with a leader. Post reply Do you find this valuable?
DevilNuts	12. RE: What would bring you to the raiding party? Jan 29 2010, 3:57 AM EST "Stand and Fight" flies smack in the face with a survival mentality, because invariably, people in fights get hurt or killed, from either side. Being killed dramatically reduces your chances for survival. Who gives a **** if they "lose respect" for you? You walk away, whole and intact, and make your living some place else. Just because you don't like someone does not mean you should enter into armed conflict against them. Post reply Do you find this valuable?
AnimateBlade	13. RE: What would bring you to the raiding party? Jan 29 2010, 4:39 AM EST "Being killed dramatically reduces your chances for survival. " That made me LOL. I'd only launch an offensive if there was a real and impending threat from them. That includes violence, theft, and repeated failure to observe the rules of Z-Day. Post reply Do you find this valuable?
AlexHigginbotham	14. RE: What would bring you to the raiding party? Jan 29 2010, 5:02 AM EST \| Post edited: Jan 29 2010, 5:04 AM EST ""Stand and Fight" flies smack in the face with a survival mentality, because invariably, people in fights get hurt or killed, from either side. Being killed dramatically reduces your chances for survival. Who gives a **** if they "lose respect" for you? You walk away, whole and intact, and make your living some place else. Just because you don't like someone does not mean you should enter into armed conflict against them. " I agree with you, but i guess it goes along with the individuals personality. The lion and the hyena rarely go hungry, and usually dine on the same animal. The difference is the mentality between the 2. One is a dominant hunter where the other is a timid scavenger. I would rather rely on my assertiveness to feed me rather than cower out and eat the scraps left behind. Cowering can be safer in most all aspects, but if the lion doesn't want to give up any scraps, your forced to look elsewhere or go hungry. Post reply Do you find this valuable?
RoboZed	15. RE: What would bring you to the raiding party? Jan 29 2010, 8:22 AM EST Eh, maybe, maybe not. I wouldn't want to put up with any **** that they have to offer. If they came down to my place, knocked on the door, I open it up and there they are wasting my time saying, "Hey wazzuuup dbag?" meh, I'd shoot. But I guess it all depends, bunch of kids with their awesome swords, or some random raider group with their AR-15s and M16s. I'd back off and try and talk it out, give them some reasoning, I mean hey, we're all people right? And we're all just trying to survive, so we could work something out. Being good to others always pays off. Post reply Do you find this valuable?
timberrattler	16. RE: What would bring you to the raiding party? Jan 29 2010, 8:48 AM EST "Mean people making fun of me? Aww boo hoo. As long as they are leaving me and mine alone, fine. But if they try and break my quarantine, or make threats of violence, then they get shot. Oh, and if they have something that we NEED, for example medicine or equipment, and aren't willing to trade, then they get shot. The safety and survival of my group comes first." I think you missed where I was going with this Pedro. Personally I'd care less if someone gave me ****. How I conduct myself here should prove that. However if I was hungry and starving I probably still wouldn't raid other human beings especially if I had talked to them and they were generally good people and more than willing to trade. The temptation to raid would be greater in my eyes if you'd met them and they were royal douchebags. Western Native American tribes raided some Mexican villages and even fellow tribes and left others alone and never raided them. I always wondered if they were selective because of the resources those tribes and villages had or their temperment towards them as a people. Post reply Do you find this valuable?
Frag-12	17. RE: What would bring you to the raiding party? Jan 29 2010, 9:50 AM EST "Western Native American tribes raided some Mexican villages and even fellow tribes and left others alone and never raided them. I always wondered if they were selective because of the resources those tribes and villages had or their temperment towards them as a people." It could have been everything from religious beliefs to the return on investment was not worth their warriors being killed. Post reply Do you find this valuable?
DevilNuts	18. RE: What would bring you to the raiding party? Jan 29 2010, 10:48 AM EST "I agree with you, but i guess it goes along with the individuals personality. The lion and the hyena rarely go hungry, and usually dine on the same animal. The difference is the mentality between the 2. One is a dominant hunter where the other is a timid scavenger. I would rather rely on my assertiveness to feed me rather than cower out and eat the scraps left behind. Cowering can be safer in most all aspects, but if the lion doesn't want to give up any scraps, your forced to look elsewhere or go hungry." Ok. Now give the Gazelles some rifles and see how your analogy becomes irrelevant. I am not above "cowering" if it keeps me alive and healthy. I don't have a reputation to protect or defend, and to me that is a good thing. Reputations are dangerous. There is no pride in survival, no dignity, no modesty. A true survival mentality leaves no room for such insignificant emotions. It's about playing the odds, like in blackjack. In blackjack, it doesn't matter whether you are bluffing or not -- you are only playing against the odds and the dealer couldn't care less how dark your sunglasses are. Post reply 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you find this valuable? Do you?
Frag-12	19. RE: What would bring you to the raiding party? Jan 29 2010, 10:56 AM EST "There is no pride in survival, no dignity, no modesty. A true survival mentality leaves no room for such insignificant emotions. " One can argue that most emotions will be insignificant during a crisis unless if fuels your will to survive and it does not cloud your survivalist judgment such as being a hero at the wrong time. Post reply Do you find this valuable?

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