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zak12 |
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LJ126 |
1. RE: loadout
Feb 23 2011, 12:16 PM EST
Bodybags - why are the four people seeking out a densely populated area in the first place?? Not very logical.
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Whybother08 |
2. RE: loadout
Feb 23 2011, 12:40 PM EST
A ball bat, a concealed handgun, a pocket knife, a canteen/hydration pack, and an empty duffle bag for each person.The only reasons I'd go into a dense suburban or urban area is to get a friend or family member, or to scavenge. Even then, I'd prefer anywhere else to get supplies. Food could probably be found in any car in the gridlocked streets. Water, the same thing. Weapons, you want to be quiet whenever possible, with a backup firearm incase something goes down. Keep the entire setup as light and inconspicuous as possible. There is the possibility of some gang-banger or desperate survivor taking the first chance they get to take out a couple guys in camo with assault rifles for their gear. Being light on your feet in a dense concrete jungle is somewhat self explanatory. 2 out of 2 found this valuable. Do you? |
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zak12 |
3. RE: loadout
Feb 23 2011, 1:31 PM EST
thanks for your input whybother08 and lj126 yes i do agree with what both of yee have to say and i do agree i intend to use for body bags for other people (if it comes to it ) its incredibly stupid but my parents and best freind both live in town luckly in the same estate only a few houses apart as i live in what some would consider the country (3 miles outside town) i live with my girlfreind and 2 other freinds i dont feel comfortable leaving my parents there to die but when it goes down ya never know what happens both my 3 freinds and my dad are always doing a bit of shooting my girlfreind not so much :L she thinks a .22 mag rifle has a big recoil :( so any way i guess i should of described the town as having around 200 population wise and the plan is for my other freind to hold down the fort until we can get there of course the i deal would be to get them out of the town before the SHTF but nothing ever goes exactly to plan and dont expect it ever will 0 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
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4. RE: loadout
Feb 23 2011, 7:42 PM EST
2 pair Binoculars to scout ahead, 4 camelpaks since you need water and if you have to run its good to have on you, 2 bats alluminum for quiet take downs of individual zombies, 2 cross bows or bow and arrow sets to take out small number groups and not attract attention, 4 .22 calibur m4 carbines with 6 mags each since they are light to carry and have enough rounds to take out dozens of zombies in a quick hurry, 4 9 mil. pistols on leg strap holsters with 3 clips to use just in case your out of ammo from the m4 and your in a ****** situation and o yeah 4 sets of night vision gogles just to travel at night and not be seen by the enemy and 4 small first aid kits for just in casewell thats what i would take for a recon mission but if i was doing a scavenging mission id bring a truck or van leave it outside of the town and go by foot with 3 or 4 ruck sacks 2 out of 2 found this valuable. Do you? |
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Sharpie41 |
5. RE: loadout
Feb 23 2011, 7:51 PM EST
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http://www.zombiesurvivalwiki.com/page/Scrounger+Training:+Scrounger+GearLook here, good info Personally, I would go with pistols (hopefully chambered in the same calibre) a larger high powered semi-auto rifle as the "one" gun, and either pistol cal. carbines in same cal. as the pistol or .22 semi-auto rifles with high cap mags as the "two" guns 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
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zak12 |
6. RE: loadout
Feb 24 2011, 7:38 AM EST
"2 pair Binoculars to scout ahead, 4 camelpaks since you need water and if you have to run its good to have on you, 2 bats alluminum for quiet take downs of individual zombies, 2 cross bows or bow and arrow sets to take out small number groups and not attract attention, 4 .22 calibur m4 carbines with 6 mags each since they are light to carry and have enough rounds to take out dozens of zombies in a quick hurry, 4 9 mil. pistols on leg strap holsters with 3 clips to use just in case your out of ammo from the m4 and your in a ****** situation and o yeah 4 sets of night vision gogles just to travel at night and not be seen by the enemy and 4 small first aid kits for just in caselooks like im not the only one planning on using bows :D how man arrows for the bow / bolts for the crossbow as a main weapon thanks for the input i for 1 plan on carrying a bow/glock17 and then depending on the situation/other member of the group are carryin a ruger10/22/rem 870/rem 700in .308 Do you find this valuable? |
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Whybother08 |
7. RE: loadout
Feb 24 2011, 8:30 PM EST
"2 pair Binoculars to scout ahead *clip*"Let me ring that up for a pre-z preparation. I'll give you the lowest possible costs from my estimates/research. 2 pairs of decent binocs: $50-100 each. 4 Camelbak packs: ~$60 each. This is a bare-bones water carrier and bladder. 2 bats: Meh, you could probably find some used for a couple of bucks. 2 bows/Xbows: $200-300 each, plus arrow costs. 4 .22LR AR-15-style rifles: ~$500 each, not including mag and ammo costs. I used the S&W M&P-15-22 for the purpose of this. 4 good quality 9mm handguns: $400-600 each, not including mag, ammo, and holster costs. 4 NVG: This is kind of a weird zone, because the costs can vary dramatically, but ones with any quality are easily over $1000 a piece. Calculated down, the cost of this entire setup is a whopping $9178. Quite literally Over 9000. Or, $2294 if you split the cost between the four group members. I did this with 6 M&P-22 mags a person (in the $400s), 1000 rounds of .22 ($40), 3 Glock 17 mags per person (in the $300s), and 50 rounds per person ($40 total). One could argue that each person could accumulate this much gear themselves, individually, or loot it, but still...Finding specific gear or expecting people to have it is a bit out of the realm of reality. One thing is you could replace multi-thousand NVGs for a couple of flashlights that you probably have lying around your house. Oh, and are people carrying a rifle, pistol, and an archery piece? Seems a bit sluggish to me. 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
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SasquatchJim |
8. RE: loadout
Feb 24 2011, 10:10 PM EST
I agree with LJ and WB; going into the city probably wouldn't be the best option.That being said, here's what I would take (note: this is my opinion only, not trying to influence anybody really.): 2 people carrying 12 gauge shotguns, preferably either Mossberg 500s or NEF Pardner Pumps. Loud, yes, but good if you are backed into a corner. 1 person with a .22 semi-automatic rifle, namely either a Marlin Model 60 or Ruger 10/22. Both are pretty cheap, and known for reliability. If possible, look for heavy-bulleted, subsonic rounds. Although I'm not sure whether or not they'd be effective in the situation, some testing beforehand would show. Finally, have one person with with a crossbow. Provided they've practiced with it, it should be useful for solitary threats. Sidearms for all of them would be a .38 or .357 revolver. They are common and can be bought cheaply, yet can definitely do the job. Also, stuff like a knife, a few empty bags, etc. would be essential. Also, some water never hurt anyone. All this stuff can be gotten pretty cheaply, especially before the SHTF. Hope I helped :) Do you find this valuable? |
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zak12 |
9. RE: loadout
Feb 25 2011, 7:08 AM EST
thanks for the info :)nvg would be good but dont have dat kind of money :( binos check 10/22 check glock 17and 5 mags check also got a s&w 686 in .38/.357 with 4 speed loaders (need more) bats check bows browning rage one :D and 2 and bit quivers full of arrows Do you find this valuable? |
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zak12 |
10. RE: loadout
Feb 25 2011, 7:12 AM EST
thanks for the info :Di like everything except the 500 has to be a rem 870 :P have a cross bow but would rather the browning still cant decide whter to bring my marlin 39a or ruger 10/22 ? Do you find this valuable? |
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zak12 |
11. RE: loadout
Feb 25 2011, 7:40 AM EST
"soz only saw dat bit there ah no just me plan on bow in hand and shotgun in sling and rem 700 .308 in a scabbard and G17 or s&w 686 prob glock (higher capicity) (note id only bring da rem 700 if we were goin to be in a large open plain for extended periods of time or if it was a 6 man group me=sniper and a lookout what do yee reckon of.. 12G 75 shot gun shells =15 slugs/10magnums/25 no 6 and 20 no 4 and maybe 5 non lethal rounds ? .308=55 and da 5 G mags 17 rounders then around 20 arrows mixed weights/tips I KNOW ITS A VERY HEAVY LOADOUT but its geared towards combat and not bugging out + i can easily drop the rifle if i have to run that load out also depends on what my mates carry the current weapon plan was weapons are in order of users prefernce me-well depends on my roll/situation kind a jack of all trades TBH matt should use the rem 700 but he refuses to what can ya do :( ? Billy-10/22=500-1000 rounds of ammo and a 226+6mags matt-cz .22 bolt action i know bolts slow but he can take the head of a match at 50 yrds unrested ! and if it dosnt happen before this saturday a p226 x five :D and sig mosquito + 5 mags for the sig and 6 for the mosquito and bout 1000 losse rounds between 2 drop pouches jeff-a number of differnt shotgun possibiltys rem870/cruiser couple side by sides hes vauge but he said 200 shells ?(hes a big boy) a m9 and 8 mags my dad-rem 870/pistol grip 870 n he likes shotguns :L not to mention he cant hit a man sized target from a 100 yds with a 10/22 so i dont feel safe giving him a rifle:( i know we all have heavy loadouts but we can easily drop the extra guns if needs be and if things go to plan i wont need da 700 which is heavy and da ammos heavy but if im part of the defence/snipe team il defo have it Do you find this valuable? |
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VagabondVance |
12. RE: loadout
Feb 25 2011, 9:07 AM EST
Just curious zak how old are you?
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zak12 |
13. RE: loadout
Feb 25 2011, 12:15 PM EST
hey ya i just turned 22 freinds are 20-30
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Sharpie41 |
14. RE: loadout
Feb 25 2011, 1:07 PM EST
"hey ya i just turned 22 freinds are 20-30"Why do you talk like you're 12? Do you find this valuable? |
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zak12 |
15. RE: loadout
Feb 25 2011, 1:47 PM EST
oh didnt realise i did I what way makes me sound as if im 12
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Sharpie41 |
16. RE: loadout
Feb 25 2011, 2:59 PM EST
"oh didnt realise i did I what way makes me sound as if im 12"Da, dat...read your posts, you'll see Do you find this valuable? |
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zak12 |
17. RE: loadout
Feb 25 2011, 3:45 PM EST
Oh right sorry thats fairly normal where I am from its pretty much the way we write on the phone/work etc .Sorry if i caused offence. Do you find this valuable? |
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Sharpie41 |
18. RE: loadout
Feb 25 2011, 4:13 PM EST
"Oh right sorry thats fairly normal where I am from its pretty much the way we write on the phone/work etc .Random question, are you Irish? No offence, just can't understand it well Do you find this valuable? |
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